Scania’s eco-roll “helpfully” disengaging CC for you on declines that are so shallow you never overrun on them even when fully loaded, but to do it when you’re running empty and facing a strong headwind, all in an attempt to save a thimbleful of fuel is just beyond stupid. It probably uses more fuel returning back to the set speed once it’s dropped to 47mph and realised no rolling is happening. 
Just give us a dash setting to turn off the useless POS or go visit Volvo and ask them to give you a demo on how to do it right.
Mick Bracewell:
Scania’s eco-roll “helpfully” disengaging CC for you on declines that are so shallow you never overrun on them even when fully loaded, but to do it when you’re running empty and facing a strong headwind, all in an attempt to save a thimbleful of fuel is just beyond stupid. It probably uses more fuel returning back to the set speed once it’s dropped to 47mph and realised no rolling is happening.
Yep, and knocking out 2/3rds of the way up a hill when empty and overtaking to try and just roll you over the crest 
the nodding donkey:
robroy:
biggriffin:
robroy:
[zb] trailer brakes that come on automatically through night if you lose your air.
Especially if you have parked tight up to a hedge the night before, with nettles, to stop getting your fuel nicked…as I found out the other morning getting out in my shorts.Parked near a hedge■■? You weren’t Giving it a night-out Dozy stylee was you.
Planned to park on ind est at Marlborough, (parked there years ago) a short walk to town, and garage on site for bog and coffee in morning…ideal.
Just about to park up, saw the signs…'No parking/CCTV/fines.
Would not give them the satisfaction of the bastds screwing money out of me, (hope they all die soon) so ended up in a [zb] lay by just outside Hungerford
It was well lit up, could have walked into town but a mixture of too late and couldn’t be arsed…Joy’s of tramping.Ok,.a bit dozy stylee but different…for supper home made curry,followed by strawberries and cream, beer and latte… as opposed to Ginsters pie and can of Lilt.
(Even had Saturday night out due to catalogue of [zb] ups.
I know it’s a bit late, but why did you park in the layby? Park on the industrial estate road, and if you really must, it’s a shorter walk to town. Me, I park there, but dont bother with the pub anymore, as they’re to expensive (like Marlborough, it has a bit of a ‘we’re beter than youw’ attitude…), although if hunger calls, the kebab van is not too bad. He, everybody is entitled one guilty pleasure…
To experience how the other half live. 
Nah, I don’t know that area too well for parking, time was getting tight after not being able to park earlier where I planned, but to be honest…I did not even see an ind est, where is it in relation to where I parked (opp.a garden centre I think it was, about 100 yards from a filling station on way out of town towards Newbuty) just in case I find myself there again.
When trailers are dropped and the winding handle is stowed. Just leave them dangling!
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.
ezydriver:
When trailers are dropped and the winding handle is stowed. Just leave them dangling!
Big +1…
All the years I’ve been doing this, I still can’t work out why they do it.
TM’s who change your working week with out checking what your doing is on going so the next week when you’ve done short days and no nights out you end up with a long weekend and a poor pay packet the next week
Sent while from gods know where
Suedehead:
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.
Drivers that don’t flash you in.
Not because I need it, I don’t, but it’s because of them that drivers who do need it cut in on you now.
In the old days you were more or less guaranteed a flash, so those that were unsure, incompetent or plain dense could wait for it, now they don’t know if they’ll get a flash so just ■■■■ go for it regardless of how tight it is rather than just sit out a couple of yards.
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And tbf how taxing is it just to give a polite flash.
Suedehead:
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.
Its Sarcasm… as in “Thank you for flashing me in…NOT”
Drivers that hold up the goods in queue by flirting with the pretty EE clerk, thinking that their conversation must be the highlight of the poor womans day . Especially the overweight and ugly drivers in their Slazenger trackie bottoms, sporting 4 teeth that haven’t showered for 3 nights.
The arse at my work who parks up damaged or defective lorries instead of putting them v.o.r. Ray
robroy:
Suedehead:
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.Drivers that don’t flash you in.
Not because I need it, I don’t, but it’s because of them that drivers who do need it cut in on you now.
In the old days you were more or less guaranteed a flash, so those that were unsure, incompetent or plain dense could wait for it, now they don’t know if they’ll get a flash so just [zb] go for it regardless of how tight it is rather than just sit out a couple of yards.
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And tbf how taxing is it just to give a polite flash.
There’s no need for any of this. It’s just drivers stuck in past when mirrors were the size of a postage stamp and weren’t heated so you couldn’t see ■■■■. Flashing then was useful. It’s a waste of time now and I don’t even bother UNLESS it’s moderate to heavy rain, low sun or winter time when the roads are caked in crap and your mirrors are black in 2 seconds of joining a motorway.
What would be 100x better is instead of drivers staying on the limiter and leaving you in lane 2 for 20 miles as you creep past as 0.001mph and then “helpfully” flash you in 10 minutes later when you’ve finally made it, is for them to not bother with all the silly light shows and just knock their cruise control off for 20 seconds and then no flashing needed and everyone just gets on with their day. But that’s far too obvious and so the drama and angst over being flashed/not being flashed will continue ad infinitum.
This response answers a few questions for me. So cutting in is justified if slower truck does not back off. A punishment for a perceived slight?
The inexorable rise of the modern ignoranus driver continues.
Mick Bracewell:
robroy:
Suedehead:
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.Drivers that don’t flash you in.
Not because I need it, I don’t, but it’s because of them that drivers who do need it cut in on you now.
In the old days you were more or less guaranteed a flash, so those that were unsure, incompetent or plain dense could wait for it, now they don’t know if they’ll get a flash so just [zb] go for it regardless of how tight it is rather than just sit out a couple of yards.
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And tbf how taxing is it just to give a polite flash.There’s no need for any of this. It’s just drivers stuck in past when mirrors were the size of a postage stamp and weren’t heated so you couldn’t see [zb]. Flashing then was useful. It’s a waste of time now and I don’t even bother UNLESS it’s moderate to heavy rain, low sun or winter time when the roads are caked in crap and your mirrors are black in 2 seconds of joining a motorway.
What would be 100x better is instead of drivers staying on the limiter and leaving you in lane 2 for 20 miles as you creep past as 0.001mph and then “helpfully” flash you in 10 minutes later when you’ve finally made it, is for them to not bother with all the silly light shows and just knock their cruise control off for 20 seconds and then no flashing needed and everyone just gets on with their day. But that’s far too obvious and so the drama and angst over being flashed/not being flashed will continue ad infinitum.
Try reading the post again mate !. 
You say there is ‘No NEED’, I all ready said that !
To repeat myself …personally I don’t ’ need’ it, I know when and when not to pull back in safely.
My whole point was/is that where as once over you were virtually ‘guaranteed’ a flash as a guide, (before people took a similar attitude to yourself), so consequently in those days it was a once every blue moon occasion when somebody cut in on you…, rather than a once every couple of hours as it is today. because SOME are either unsure, cavalier about it, inexperienced, naive …or just plain ■■■■ thick, about whether or not it is a safe distance enough to leave before pulling back in…the old flash system prevented this on the whole.
And those are the TWO things that wind me up, pertaining to the subject of the thread…not whether or not YOU deem it necessary or not.
1…Many do not flash others in, which often causes cut ins, because they know longer know uf they are going to be flashed…so cut in too early.
2. Those who caused all that who can’t be arsed.
Does that clarify?
Yeh, ok, fair enough, In REAL terms I suppose I could not give a flying ■■■■ whether you or anyone else flashed me in, but if they do I can rest assured that they are comfortable with the distance I have left them before pulling in…and that is the way I see it,
ie. Being a considerate driver instead of a ■■■■.
Whether it’s got anything to do with ‘‘postage stamp mirrors/stuck in the past or silly light shows’’ or not …, it was a self devised ‘system’ that worked for decades until some drivers decided they could not be arsed any longer for whatever reason, so then overtaking of trucks by other trucks, became a more dangerous ‘lottery’ depending on the professionalism and capability of the ‘overtaker’.
As for your last paragraph, I do agree about the limiter thing,.and as for suddenly speeding up on your inside, and leaving you hanging for no other reason than to be a complete 2hat, as the clown in the blue Scania pulling the Buffoload trailer did to the guy I was following last night, it makes me wonder how some are allowed to drive large vehicles.
But if you stay in the lane for 1 mile, without eventually just letting the ■■■■ go, let alone 20 miles…(yeh I know you were exaggerating) I reckon it makes you nearly as bad as the prick who would not let you back in…ie a classic childish ■■■■■■■ contest.
msgyorkie:
Suedehead:
Drivers that acknowledge/thank me for flashing them in . . . when I haven’t.Its Sarcasm… as in “Thank you for flashing me in…NOT”
Maybe the sarcastic one wasn’t flashed in, because he wasn’t far enough ahead, to be flashed in.
So, in some cases he must be not only someone who cuts in too early, and is totally unaware of it, but also conceited enough about his own correctness to try go find fault in others.
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Glad I ain’t like that.
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Me too. Just drive properly in the first place. If you kept your distance and returned to the inside lane whilst leaving enough room for the slower truck to stop if you slammed on, then you might get a matey flash-in. There should be some sort of campaign about this. If it ain’t okay to tailgate, then why is it okay to force the issue onto an unsuspecting slower truck, making him slow down to stay safe.
Going into the shop to pay when fuelling a truck.It’s basically medieval having to take a card in first,then go in again once you’re done.Why they aren’t all automated pay at the pump by now I have no idea,there can’t be enough people still paying cash when they fuel a truck up so just automate it!!Would hopefully cut down on the helmets that insist on doing a weekly shop when they go to pay too
TezzDemon:
Going into the shop to pay when fuelling a truck.It’s basically medieval having to take a card in first,then go in again once you’re done.Why they aren’t all automated pay at the pump by now I have no idea,there can’t be enough people still paying cash when they fuel a truck up so just automate it!!Would hopefully cut down on the helmets that insist on doing a weekly shop when they go to pay too
Or just parking at the pumps to buy a newspaper and crisps because they can’t be arsed using the proper parking area. You all know who you are. Just stop it. You’re all lazy inconsiderate ■■■■■■■■■
Good point above. Those that park in coach bays or oversized load bays. Arrogant, inconsiderate, lazy, incapable two hats. Take your pick.
Alfa1M:
Good point above. Those that park in coach bays or oversized load bays. Arrogant, inconsiderate, lazy, incapable two hats. Take your pick.
Ahhh. We have to park in coach bays when carrying wide loads as the Stobarts/wincanski/Turners steering attendants Park in the abnormal load bays. Usually because they can’t reverse for toffee into a normal bay.