Any idea what would cause a trailer tyre to near disintegrate?? I got back to the yard on Friday afternoon and the near side middle axle tyre had lost all the tread and rubber right down to the casing of the tyre, it came off in 4 sections and became tangled up near the brake chambers, tyre stayed fully inflated and which surprised me as it was loaded with about 18t of paint.
Tyre man came out and was gobsmacked, said hed never seen anything like it before, he pulled the sections of tyre out and the tyre was pretty much brand new, he seemed to think it was cheap tyres that was the problem, but surely cheap or not, a tyre shouldn’t fall apart like that.
He did say it wasn’t like that for long as the tyre would have burst before long and the tyre had only slightly damaged the mudguard.
probably a cheap remould , i’ve had one go like that , but the entire tread came off in one piece and went bowling down the hard shoulder . the tyre fitter was ■■■■■■■■ himself getting the valve out in case it exploded in his face . i was sat in the cab out of harms way .
rigsby:
probably a cheap remould , i’ve had one go like that , but the entire tread came off in one piece and went bowling down the hard shoulder . the tyre fitter was ■■■■■■■■ himself getting the valve out in case it exploded in his face . i was sat in the cab out of harms way .
Is the tread just glued onto the case?? I always thought a tyre was one piece of rubber
The tyre fitter that came to sort it was ■■■■■■■■ himself as well, he didn’t really want to go near it incase it burst when he was close, when I seen what it was like I didn’t go near it til the air was out.
A tyre is made up of numerous parts and different materials, and the tread band is bonded to the carcase. The tyres are actually built up and then cooked, rather than being moulded
You will find different grades of rubber, fabric and steel in tyres.
I’d guess at one or more of three possibilities:
A manufacturing fault
The tyre has been exposed to some nasty chemical at some point in its life
The tyre has been run under-inflated for a long time.
It has to be said that there are some shonky tyres about imported from points east. Some of the Chinese tyres are OK, others are not!
A reputable remould should be perfectly OK: some of the big manufacturers (Michelin) will remould their own tyres twice if the casing is in good enough condition.
Hiya if it was a remould, they strip the old tread off a tyre and put a new tread on.the new tread is glued on
but in a speciacl way. tyres are layered from a caseing which is a experianced job. sometimes air can get
between layers this makes the tyres get hot and eventually blow off.you’ll maybe smell burning rubber on a
lorry when your following it along a motorway.The driver will have no idea the tread is comeing of
because he’s leaving the rubber smell behind him, most probley like you have done.
John
Thanks gasgas & 3300john, thanks for explaining that.
Now you mention Chinese tyres, I did notice the new one the fitter put on was made in the PRC. On hire trailers, who decides what type of tyres are used, is it the trailer company or the company using the trailer??
I know some trailer leasing companies make a huge charge for tyre wear: so much so that some operators strip the supplied tyres off, fit their own, then put the (unused) originals back on when they return the trailer.
Can you tell us the make of the failed tyre (if any lawyers are reading we are not insinuating that it was a manufacturing fault!)?
We seem to get a right old mish mash of tyres, some are Michelin or Goodyear, then the next time you see a tyre fitter, they are fitting tyres I’ve never heard off
Tyre failure is not the problem it was 15-20 years ago when tyres with no visible fault would fail, particularly super singles although this was not all that common.
All depends on the type of work they’re used for, running heavy on bulkers off road and carrying scrap cheap tyres and remoulds are not worth the bother.
Up and down the Motorway with moderate weights then remolds are a good bet, I’ve never had any trouble with Bandvulc on the drive or the trailer they don’t last like branded tyres but they don’t cost like them either, difficult to say what causes the problem when it’s scattered all over the road. youtu.be/hc8SoPUAtxM quite a alot goes into it.
30 - 40 years ago it was common for Bandag remoulds to fail. Sometimes they would lose their tread from the casing. Other times they would simply go off “pop” with no warning whatsoever. Things have improved substantially since then but I still have a horror of seeing a remould on a steering axle.
I am not on the spanners now but, I have spent yrs putting dam mud wing and stays and lamp brackets back on trucks and trailer because the boss got cheap top cap tyres and they would just peel off.
Many a times you we would get a trailer in for service and spot an in-side trye just showing wire all the way around it, you soon got out of the pit let me tell you.
Retired Old ■■■■:
30 - 40 years ago it was common for Bandag remoulds to fail. Sometimes they would lose their tread from the casing. Other times they would simply go off “pop” with no warning whatsoever. Things have improved substantially since then but I still have a horror of seeing a remould on a steering axle.
Not so much a pop as a bleeding great ■■■■ yerself bang in the 3 or 4 I’ve had over the years.
Had a tyre lose its tread on the rear of a tri axle trailer and it took out the side markers, rear lights,marker boards,mudgards and stays and curtain buckles and the Police had to do a rolling road block till we got all the bits cleaned up,tyre fitter said it was a faulty remould and it had only covered 100 mile since it was fitted when we checked the records.
Retired Old ■■■■:
30 - 40 years ago it was common for Bandag remoulds to fail. Sometimes they would lose their tread from the casing. Other times they would simply go off “pop” with no warning whatsoever. Things have improved substantially since then but I still have a horror of seeing a remould on a steering axle.
I think BRS used to use them because their trailer tyres were prone to shredding on motorways. You’d see the tread and a short distance along the road you would see a trailer with a blown out tyre or two, they were tandem axles in those days.
There’s also two different methods of remoulding: ‘hot cure’ and ‘cold cure’.
Reputable remoulds should be perfectly OK on all but steer axles.
Back in the days of municipal bus companies and refuse collection, tyres used to get a first life on the buses then be remoulded and sent to die an early death on the dustcarts (in the days when dustcarts were expected to drive over tipped material on the landfills).
Bandvulc say no more cheap and nasty, had one of the treads peel off partially and smashed the rear bumper lights wheel guard to pieces, and that was recently put on
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I had one go on a trailer, all that was left of it was about 2" of the sidewall where the bead is, tyre fitter came out and laughed his head off, wanted to know where the rest of it was.
Usually we take the old tyre back with us but there was so little left I didn’t bother. Gaffer rang them up and asked them to return the tyre, 2 days later a jiffy bag arrived with the remains of the tyre
Hiya…years ago when i was on the scrap job(plenty burst/blow out tyres)i had a very quick ERF big cam 290.
one monday i started at about 4am shot from Buxton to Bangor tipped scrap then stopped for brekky at a tea
van. i noticed a replacement tyre on the front axle…arrrrrrrh a remould so i get back to the yard the next
afternoon, i told the mechanic NO remoulds on the front axle…s…t he said it took me an hour to recut that
tyre …i was dumb struck i never noticed it had been recut .this was on a 80mph lorry which was driven
fast every early morning…good old days they say…
John
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Bandvulc say no more cheap and nasty, had one of the treads peel off partially and smashed the rear bumper lights wheel guard to pieces, and that was recently put on
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Bandvulc,total load of rubbish…in the last 18 months i’ve had 6 Bandvulc tyres blow,i’ve spend more time on the hardshoulder thanks to them than anything else…I know the boss uses them as were on farm work and do go through tyres quicker than our distribution fleet but it does take the michael a bit
