switchlogic:
Where the hell is Carryfast?! He would have this all sewn up in about 396 long winded posts and save us all time
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he will still be downloading the reply from google… 
switchlogic:
Hate to break it to you but supermarket fridges are some of the filthiest fridges inside I’ve ever had the pleasure of pulling!
Gotta agree with this (if the general public saw inside some of them they’d stop shopping there) and they are seconded only by the fridges that deliver milk
RoadsRat:
Despite the best efforts of TruckNet CID absolving the driver of any responsibility for what he had been initially arrested for,
Being arrested is not the same as being charged. No one absolved him of any responsibility, more like gave reasons as to why he might not actually be guilty and was an innocent pawn left to carry the can.
Id have thought what with you being a traffic officer and all you’d be able to tell the difference
The Scania entered the country via Holyhead unit only on Sunday 20th October, having travelled over from Dublin, then travelled all the way down to Essex tractor unit only!
How in reality could this pay? Just a thought.
So so far its all your own who are involved, English subjects exploiting foreign people for money even putting them to death
That’s the way it reads and looks northern Ireland is uk so shame on the uk with this happening on there own door step
You can dress it up as you wish but it’s uk citizens who did this not Irish
Your ■■■■■■■ living with dogs and ■■■■ heads shame on anyone who even slightly knows them
moomooland:
The Scania entered the country via Holyhead unit only on Sunday 20th October, having travelled over from Dublin, then travelled all the way down to Essex tractor unit only!
How in reality could this pay? Just a thought.
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it couldnt possibly,but how do you know he bounced down?
the trailer made it to france and back,and there are some over here who saw him on the stena also say they saw him in calais…if they did,and plod prove that then he wont need to be buying any sun cream till hes pension pays for it.
how it possibly could pay is a share in 39x30k…do the maths?..if he is guilty.
nightline:
So so far its all your own who are involved, English subjects exploiting foreign people for money even putting them to death
That’s the way it reads and looks northern Ireland is uk so shame on the uk with this happening on there own door step
You can dress it up as you wish but it’s uk citizens who did this not Irish
Your [zb] living with dogs and [zb] heads shame on anyone who even slightly knows them
I think some of the Welsh and Scots might have an issue with being called English subjects, if you believe that being from the UK makes you English?
dieseldog999:
it couldnt possibly,but how do you know he bounced down?
On both Sky News and the Mail Online.
muckles:
nightline:
So so far its all your own who are involved, English subjects exploiting foreign people for money even putting them to death
That’s the way it reads and looks northern Ireland is uk so shame on the uk with this happening on there own door step
You can dress it up as you wish but it’s uk citizens who did this not Irish
Your [zb] living with dogs and [zb] heads shame on anyone who even slightly knows themI think some of the Welsh and Scots might have an issue with being called English subjects, if you believe that being from the UK makes you English?
If you’re part of the uk you are English simple they might believe they think they are not but they are
nightline:
muckles:
nightline:
So so far its all your own who are involved, English subjects exploiting foreign people for money even putting them to death
That’s the way it reads and looks northern Ireland is uk so shame on the uk with this happening on there own door step
You can dress it up as you wish but it’s uk citizens who did this not Irish
Your [zb] living with dogs and [zb] heads shame on anyone who even slightly knows themI think some of the Welsh and Scots might have an issue with being called English subjects, if you believe that being from the UK makes you English?
If you’re part of the uk you are English simple they might believe they think they are not but they are
I think some of the Welsh and Scots might have an issue with being called English subjects, if you believe that being from the UK makes you English?
In the grand scheme of things, where we are from is neither here nor there. Our graves are all the same size.
This is a terrible tragedy, which has all the hallmarks of Dover in 2000. If I remember correctly the dutch driver was sentenced to 14 years.
Will we ever stop this behaviour as a nation? I must answer in the negative. As long as there are £££ to be made, greed will always trump moral obligation.
Is it down to the driver? Who knows. I;m sure all will be revealed over the coming days.
It’s times like this when I miss Limeyphil the most! [emoji14]
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nightline:
So so far its all your own who are involved, English subjects exploiting foreign people for money even putting them to death
That’s the way it reads and looks northern Ireland is uk so shame on the uk with this happening on there own door step
You can dress it up as you wish but it’s uk citizens who did this not Irish
Your [zb] living with dogs and [zb] heads shame on anyone who even slightly knows them
Ur part of the toy story crew I am assuming, if u dress up like Woody your immune from trouble.
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England is a part of the U.K. not vice versa. Lets hope that they prosecute the Mr. Bigs in this operation.
Wheel Nut:
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bald bloke:
Wheel Nut:
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if woody gets banged up with limey phil then itl be phil gettting the bed nearest the door as he will deffo be out first…
Own Account Driver:
Arthurhucksake:
dieseldog999:
Arthurhucksake:
Pile of [zb] driver charged.So that’s another tag drivers will have pinned on them along with prostitute killers
Cheers Mo ya [zb]’ muppet.
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nice to see he is guilty before any sort of trial then…Absolutely, innocent before being proved guilty, just remember to pop back to this thread after the trial result.
I think it’s safe to say he’s going to need a very very good brief.
And I’m perfectly happy to stand by my original post.
There was a strong body of evidence he was in it at least up to his waist, if not his neck, anyone who thought otherwise must have been smoking what those Vietnamese were probably coming here to grow.
I always think they have such lovely nails and what a lucky co-incidence that the lady in Warrington runs a beauty salon. Maybe they watched too much Corrie
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muckles:
chester:
Feel free to correct me if Iam wrong, but isn’t it a driver’s responsibility to check vehicle and load is suitable for the public highway.Bonus points awarded to the first numpty who says “you can’t always check your load because of a seal”
Although they are ultimately responsible, a driver isn’t required to physically check the vehicle or the load, they are part of the chain of people responsible for the safety and suitability of both. Therefore they can face prosecution for either being unsafe, but alternative systems and audit trails can be used as mitigating circumstances.
Daily walkaround checks
This section looks at the daily walkaround check. It offers best practice advice on setting up a system for reporting faults and looks at defect reports, while clearly stating your legal position.
A driver or responsible person must undertake a daily walkaround check before a vehicle is used. As a driver, DVSA recommend this check is carried out before you first drive the vehicle on the road each day.
Where more than one driver will use the vehicle during the day’s running, the driver taking charge of a vehicle should make sure it is roadworthy and safe to drive by carrying out their own walkaround check; however, due to health and safety implications this may not be practical on all occasions.
An example of a system for managing in-service driver changes is where a walkaround check is carried out by a responsible person, and the drivers monitor the vehicle during the day’s running.
Laws enforced by DVSA on load security
Regulation 100 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 – SI 1986 No 1078 “Maintenance and use of vehicle so as not to be a danger, etc.”
(1) A motor vehicle, every trailer drawn thereby and all parts and accessories of such vehicle and trailer shall at all times be in such condition, and the number of passengers carried by such vehicle or trailer, the manner in which any passengers are carried in or on such vehicle or trailer, and the weight, distribution, packing and adjustment of the load of such vehicle or trailer shall at all times be such that no danger is caused or is likely to be caused to any person in or on the vehicle or trailer or on a road.Provided that the provisions of this Regulation with regard to the number of passengers carried shall not apply to a vehicle to which the Public Services Vehicles (Carrying Capacity) Regulations 1984(a) apply.
(2) The load carried by a motor vehicle or trailer shall at all times be so secured, if necessary by physical restraint other than its own weight, and be in such a position, that neither danger nor nuisance is likely to be caused to any person or property by reason of the load or any part thereof falling or being blown from the vehicle or by reason of any other movement of the load or any part thereof in relation to the vehicle.
(3) No motor vehicle or trailer shall be used for any purpose for which it is so unsuitable as to cause or be likely to cause danger or nuisance to any person in or on the vehicle or trailer or on a road.”
Regulation 40A of the Road Traffic Act1988 introduced by the Road Traffic Act 1991
40 A. A Person is guilty of an offence if he uses, or causes or permits another to use, a motor vehicle
or trailer on a road when:
(a) the condition of the motor vehicle or trailer, or of its accessories or equipment, or
(b) the purpose for which it is used, or
(c) the number of passengers carried by it, or the manner in which they are carried, or
(d) the weight, position or distribution of its load, or the manner in which it is secured,
is such that the use of the motor vehicle or trailer involves a danger of injury to any person.So both the consignor and operator can face prosecution for load security offences.
No mention of physically checking the load, even when the driver isn’t present during loading, relevant parts from 2:12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoVXOJXbMe4&t=109s12.9 Incorrect loading of a container may result in dangerous situations occurring when the container is handled or transported; which could adversely affect the stability of the vehicle. In addition serious damage may be caused to the goods carried. In many instances the driver will have no control over the packing of a container nor be able to inspect its contents when he accepts it for carriage. If it is apparent that the container has not been safely loaded then it should not be accepted.
15.13 A particular problem of responsibility arises from drivers who have not been involved in the loading of dangerous goods, for example when collecting loaded and sealed freight containers for movement to ports for sea shipment. Drivers should assume that the load inside the container has been made secure, unless they have a good reason to believe otherwise, for example if leaking liquid appears from under the doors, or if noises are heard which would indicate the shifting of cargo inside. In such an event, the driver should stop the journey, and take action to have the inside of the container inspected before proceeding.
Securing loads on HGVs and goods vehicles - Guidance - GOV.UK
Involve drivers in the loading process if possible
If the drivers do not load the vehicle ideally they should be given the opportunity to observe the competent person loading the vehicle.
If it’s not appropriate for the drivers to watch the loading then they should be given information about how the load has been secured and/or given the chance to check the load prior to departure.
If a driver isn’t happy with how the load is secured or how stable it is, you should make sure that the load is:
assessed by a competent person
reloaded or resecured if necessary
Show me where I said a driver has to “physically” check the load?
I would say however, a driver has to be satisfied his load and vehicle meet legal standards before venturing onto the public highway.
I would say however, a driver has to be satisfied his load and vehicle meet legal standards before venturing onto the public highway.
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looks like its everybodys turn to show you tonight…
do tell how you satisfy yourself the load inside a container is secure and fit for the road when it will be outside your remit as a driver to break the seal without prior permission…your digging a deeper hole with this one sonny… 
dieseldog999:
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looks like its everybodys turn to show you tonight…do tell how you satisfy yourself the load inside a container is secure and fit for the road when it will be outside your remit as a driver to break the seal without prior permission…your digging a deeper hole with this one sonny…
It’s really quite simple…
You get permission!
and if consigner, consignee, pointy shoe boy refuse or bob on the FLT don’t allow you then refuse the load.
It really is that simple.
Jees get a spine and protect your livelihoods
No doubt the look for anther jobs posts will be looming.
Hence why your all being bullied by your hauliers/employers
You won’t standup for what is right.
You fear for your jobs, and will do anything what Baz the 19 year old pointy shoe type tells you to do.
This industry is pitiful to what it has become.
Iam becoming to wonder if it shouldn’t be truck drivers who should be working in these nail bars, as it appears you’ll do anything the gaffer says! FFS