Tractors and trailers

Cruise Control:
why cant all farmers have a jcb fastracs then there would be no hold ups :exclamation: :exclamation: only the irish would get held up behind them… :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

as those easliy do 90kph even when haulin 2 fully freighted trailers with palleted goods stacked 3 high held on with bailer twine destin for an RDC :open_mouth: :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

I’m pretty sure this is a Fastrac. So the question is Who was breaking the law?
Was the Fastrac driver speeding (pretty sure the tractor didn’t have air brakes and was limited to 20mph
Or the Driver behind wanting to pass a vehicle doing the legal speed limit, assuming he was in a Truck :laughing:

Chewyboy:

Chewyboy:
wouldnt mind having a go in one these bad boys :smiley:

was supposed to have a pic of one of them JCB fastrac s in that post they look FUN! :smiley:

I’ve got one!
It’s a very old one,has a 6 cylinder Perkins and a 6 speed ZF box with 3 splits. I call it my Seddon as the 1st new wagon I had, had the same configuration. Like my old Seddon it 's a bit flat, the only way you can make it go is to ‘keep her lit’
One of my favourite toys :laughing:

Big Joe:

altitude:
VOSA have no power over them so to make it look like they are doing there job, they have to chase trucks.

Don’t you believe it, if its on the road carrying out a business activity, then VOSA will have it in for a look, and they know that most pulls will yield a nice FPN, I know because of the number of people I meet on farms who ask how us truckers cope with them :grimacing: .
Over loading is the favourite, a farm tractor and trailer are limited to 24,350 kg gross, easily exceeded with a tractor weighing 9 tonnes and an empty trailer at 5 tonnes.

I know they used to turn up at Tynegrain regularly and check both T & Ts and Trucks
Funnily enough I’m on another forum trying to extol the virtues of Commercial running gear on Agricultural trailers (apparently it isn’t strong enough) and the argument has turned to which trailers can get 16t of grain in 9+5+16 equals :laughing: (actually my Fastac with trailer comes in at just over 9t) but I know a lot that are no where near :laughing:

Come a long way in the last 60 years haven’t they?

Malc, you sure those flotation tyres run at 50 psi? Sounds very high.

Rears on grey fergie above run about 10 - 12 psi.

Driveroneuk:
Come a long way in the last 60 years haven’t they?

:blush: I learned to drive on a Ford Dexter and a MF 135 :blush:
The 1st brand new tractor I can remember us buying was a Leyland 272. I saw a Marshall 802, 2 generations at least after, on a classic tractors picture not long ago :frowning:

Driveroneuk:
Malc, you sure those flotation tyres run at 50 psi? Sounds very high.

Rears on grey fergie above run about 10 - 12 psi.

You are probably nearer the mark. I did write 50 psi maximum and then took it out, I reckon when someone sees a trailer bouncing they take it as overloaded.

My first foray into tractoring was as the pilot of a Fordson Major with a chain towing another Fordson Major with a two furrow plough such was the strength of the land. The farmer then bought a Track Marshall with a 3 furrow trailer plough and I was out of an after school job :laughing: When we got some discs and a set of triple k spring tines they also bought a Ford 5000 and I was like a supermarket driver with a Scania :smiley:

It is quite strange this topic as one of my first posts on Trucknet was about a Wuffler behind a David Brown 990 :wink:

Wheel Nut:
It is quite strange this topic as one of my first posts on Trucknet was about a Wuffler behind a David Brown 990 :wink:

Very few on here will know what a wuffler is :wink:

I passed my first driving test (of 7) on a '69 MF135 in '74. Did many thousands of hours of chain harrowing & rolling with it between 69 & 74, then did 100’s of road miles at the grand speed of 18mph :laughing:
Wasn’t it the 990 was infamous for sticking selectors & whining axles?

I bet the OP wishes he’d never mentioned the word tractor now! Oh what a can of worms.

Edit: Oh & most Majors were fitted with a type of pump that had a pronounced noisy “tick” at idle!

renaultman:

Big Joe:

altitude:
VOSA have no power over them so to make it look like they are doing there job, they have to chase trucks.

Don’t you believe it, if its on the road carrying out a business activity, then VOSA will have it in for a look, and they know that most pulls will yield a nice FPN, I know because of the number of people I meet on farms who ask how us truckers cope with them :grimacing: .
Over loading is the favourite, a farm tractor and trailer are limited to 24,350 kg gross, easily exceeded with a tractor weighing 9 tonnes and an empty trailer at 5 tonnes.

I know they used to turn up at Tynegrain regularly and check both T & Ts and Trucks
Funnily enough I’m on another forum trying to extol the virtues of Commercial running gear on Agricultural trailers (apparently it isn’t strong enough) and the argument has turned to which trailers can get 16t of grain in 9+5+16 equals :laughing: (actually my Fastac with trailer comes in at just over 9t) but I know a lot that are no where near :laughing:

We have commercial gear under all our trailers, and its a ■■■■ site stronger than the crap it replaced. All trailers run on flotation tyre and have sprung drawbars. The only thing we haven’t got is air brakes, but as we only run at 40k hyd is good enough.

You’ll never get 16t of grain in a trailer legally. We run 12t Bailey silage trailers on the back of 160hp John Deeres, they tip the scales at 13.500, meaning a payload of just under 11t. The only time we have any real problem is either very wet crop, or sometimes in maize (heaviest last year was 15t not on a road by the way).

Driveroneuk:

Wheel Nut:
It is quite strange this topic as one of my first posts on Trucknet was about a Wuffler behind a David Brown 990 :wink:

Very few on here will know what a wuffler is :wink:

is knowing what a wuffler is something to be proud of, or embarrassed about ?

(I know what one is ) :wink:

Are you needing an answer to that before owning up that you DO indeed know what one is Denis? …'cos I’m pretty sure you do :wink:

Edit: (hadn’t read the small bit when i made the post… must book an appointment with Specsavers!)

Denis F:

Driveroneuk:

Wheel Nut:
It is quite strange this topic as one of my first posts on Trucknet was about a Wuffler behind a David Brown 990 :wink:

Very few on here will know what a wuffler is :wink:

is knowing what a wuffler is something to be proud of, or embarrassed about ?

(I know what one is ) :wink:

We go to some farms that still use one.

They even do a new version http://www.teagle.co.uk/Products/Tedders/ted.asp

Driveroneuk:

Malc, you sure those flotation tyres run at 50 psi? Sounds very high.

Rears on grey fergie above run about 10 - 12 psi.

Modern tractor radials run at around 22 psi for all round work, but can be dropped to around 10-12 psi for constant slower field work. The super singles on the trailer are usually 65 psi.

Aye that’s more like it. Thanks Joe.

Put our JD7530 and airbraked Kane 16Tonne silage trailer on a quarry weighbridge last year loaded with “green as leeks” maize= 33T gross :open_mouth:

Big Truck:
Put our JD7530 and airbraked Kane 16Tonne silage trailer on a quarry weighbridge last year loaded with “green as leeks” maize= 33T gross :open_mouth:

fendt 920 rolland hooklift with a bin of smashed cast iron water pipes 38.500 :open_mouth:
some two years ago ,it did feel a tad heavy on the road ,also air braked and a great exhaust brake combined with the vario means you hardly ever touch the pedal

renaultman:

Driveroneuk:
Come a long way in the last 60 years haven’t they?

:blush: I learned to drive on a Ford Dexter and a MF 135 :blush:
The 1st brand new tractor I can remember us buying was a Leyland 272. I saw a Marshall 802, 2 generations at least after, on a classic tractors picture not long ago :frowning:

Had this one call at my home today,new 6 volt battery,carb cleaned runs like a dream.

Cheers Malc.

Big Truck:
Put our JD7530 and airbraked Kane 16Tonne silage trailer on a quarry weighbridge last year loaded with “green as leeks” maize= 33T gross :open_mouth:

Oh only just a bit over the top then :open_mouth: … just get out there and kill someones dad. mum, or child, why worry if it’s not one of yours, it seems that the law let’s you do it, so go for it.

altitude:

Big Truck:
Put our JD7530 and airbraked Kane 16Tonne silage trailer on a quarry weighbridge last year loaded with “green as leeks” maize= 33T gross :open_mouth:

Oh only just a bit over the top then :open_mouth: … just get out there and kill someones dad. mum, or child, why worry if it’s not one of yours, it seems that the law let’s you do it, so go for it.

This is the thing!
You can have a vehicle designed for something far in excess of what it is doing.
A porsche being limited to 70mph for example.
If you are caught in excess of the limits laid down in law, and someone is killed, you will feel the full force of that law, and this is what you have to be aware of. Even if an incident isn’t your fault, if you are overloaded/going to fast/drunk to much, or many other things. You will be the one in trouble.

altitude:

Big Truck:
Put our JD7530 and airbraked Kane 16Tonne silage trailer on a quarry weighbridge last year loaded with “green as leeks” maize= 33T gross :open_mouth:

Oh only just a bit over the top then :open_mouth: … just get out there and kill someones dad. mum, or child, why worry if it’s not one of yours, it seems that the law let’s you do it, so go for it.

WIND YOUR NECK IN :exclamation: :exclamation: :unamused:
How many of those mentioned above are ACTUALLY killed by an overloaded Agri tractor/trailer combo each year in the UK :question:
I would hazard a guess thats its VERY little if any :exclamation: :exclamation:

Big Truck:

altitude:

Big Truck:
Put our JD7530 and airbraked Kane 16Tonne silage trailer on a quarry weighbridge last year loaded with “green as leeks” maize= 33T gross :open_mouth:

Oh only just a bit over the top then :open_mouth: … just get out there and kill someones dad. mum, or child, why worry if it’s not one of yours, it seems that the law let’s you do it, so go for it.

WIND YOUR NECK IN :exclamation: :exclamation: :unamused:
How many of those mentioned above are ACTUALLY killed by an overloaded Agri tractor/trailer combo each year in the UK :question:
I would hazard a guess thats its VERY little if any :exclamation: :exclamation:

Fully agree, the majority of agri related RTA’s are probably down to poor maintainance than overloading, the brakes on our trailers are the same as on most artic trailers, each tyre has the same foot print as 2 super singles. Alot are due to the mupet behind the wheel as well.

The worst part for me is the law doesn’t differenciate between the sizes of machine, i.e. you can legally pull the same weight with a 2wd 70hp tractor weighing 4.5t as you can with a 9t 200hp 4wd one. The only limit is the 24.500 max gross