I’m studying Transport & Logistics Management at university and am currently doing my final year project, which is on the use of vehicle tracking/monitoring technologies in the haulage industry. I’m really keen to get the views of drivers who are being tracked/monitored in some way by this technology in their roles. I’ve made a short online survey which is located here: goo.gl/forms/k44phg6QMT There’s also an optional prize draw, as an incentive to have your say
There’s a little more information about me and the survey there, but to summarise here:
Responses are wholly anonymous, there’s no questions asking about sensitive data such as your name, your employer, etc.
The data from this survey will only be used for this dissertation.
People who no longer work as drivers are still welcome to participate.
The survey closes at 23:59 on the 31st March.
All responses are very much valued and appreciated. However, I am especially keen to hear from female drivers and/or drivers aged over 60, as I’ve not had much feedback from these groups so far.
Please also/if you prefer, feel free to share your thoughts and opinions on the matter here - might be fun to see a bit of debate going on!
No surprise that a country which seems to be increasing its ties to Chinese Communism and EU Socialism would reflect that in an ever increasing control freak culture to go with it.
Here’s a clue.One of the upsides of being a driver is the real sense of freedom which goes with the job.The introduction of tachographs being the first stage in the gradual continuing erosion of that.
Carryfast:
Here’s a clue.One of the upsides of being a driver is the real sense of freedom which goes with the job.The introduction of tachographs being the first stage in the gradual continuing erosion of that.
And they were introduced because people took the pee and broke the law left, right and centre.
They were introduced to comply with the requirements of the fourth reich, and Tommy if you don’t do az you are told and fit a spy machine you vill only be able to drive 281 miles in one shift.
Carryfast:
Here’s a clue.One of the upsides of being a driver is the real sense of freedom which goes with the job.The introduction of tachographs being the first stage in the gradual continuing erosion of that.
And they were introduced because people took the pee and broke the law left, right and centre.
More like stop for an unauthorised rest or break at a cafe without the guvnor knowing.
While to be fair anyone who wants to work more than 15 hours per day will also be prepared to find one of the numerous criminal methods to interfere with tacho records if not just ignore them.
Juddian:
They were introduced to comply with the requirements of the fourth reich, and Tommy if you don’t do az you are told and fit a spy machine you vill only be able to drive 281 miles in one shift.
I don’t really get the questions regarding the use etc of tracking technology by the driver… I haven’t seen a gizmo yet that needs any interaction with the driver, while reporting the location of the lorry, the amount of fuel it has in the tanks and so on.
milodon:
I don’t really get the questions regarding the use etc of tracking technology by the driver… I haven’t seen a gizmo yet that needs any interaction with the driver, while reporting the location of the lorry, the amount of fuel it has in the tanks and so on.
There are some, at least with regards to the tracking/monitoring side of things. For example, my old company didn’t actually have anything in the cab itself, drivers were issued with a mobile and preinstalled app, they logged in to their route and selected the relevant option on the screen to say they’d arrived at a stop, left, heading back to the yard, etc. The location tracking came purely from the phone’s GPS. It didn’t have anything else such as driving style, fuel usage, etc though.
milodon:
I don’t really get the questions regarding the use etc of tracking technology by the driver… I haven’t seen a gizmo yet that needs any interaction with the driver, while reporting the location of the lorry, the amount of fuel it has in the tanks and so on.
i think there is a system called Fleet Management Solutions for Commercial Fleets Which can have some sort of integration with PDA devices ■■ but what useful info is available to the driver i don’t know
But usually or more frequently the vehicle tracker doesn’t have any kind of user interface, infact most companies will hide the black box (usually behind or close to the fuse box) because they don’t want the driver easily interfering with its operation (official line would be potential thieves disarming it)
oh yeah, now that I think of it, years ago spent a week in a truck with a TomTom gps, which had a really poor tracking/work orders interface with it. what usually happened was that after sending you the loading address via the interface, the gaffer would follow up with an sms asking “did you get it”?
Whoever designed those ■■■■ things should be regularly dry annaled by a bull for the rest of his natural.
One of the attractions of this job used to be that you were sent out left to your own devices, and told on a Monday ‘Ring me Fri when tipped’ some did play on it but most of us got the job done and completed the workload.
Then tachos came out around 81. About 86 we got cabphones the thin end of the wedge, but you could ignore them.
Then the kiss of death, the Anti Christ of Trucking technology…The Tracker .the final nail in the coffin of a good job to be in.
A lot of drivers now will know nothing else so will not mind it as much as us more experienced types, but I personally hate the ■■■■ things, although to be fair my boss does not use it to hassle me, but their are a lot out there that are constantly watched, that would totally ■■■■ me right off, and push me over the edge, some wouldsay (in an annoying whiney voice ) " Well if you are doing nothing wrong etc etc’’ …■■■■■■■■ it’s a ■■■■ liberty.
I am 50 years of age and came into transport after a couple of other careers, in those careers I was senior management and responsible for other managers and whole plants (Food processing) I was 43 when I did my HGV 2 and 44 when I passed my HGV 1. I also operate my own company that is associated with the food industry.
I am also a qualified ■■■■■■ Analyst/Counsellor…And have been in education up until 2009.
I have driven trucks that have been tracked in all ways up until 2014…Psychologically speaking it was oppressive, to know that you were being watched all of the time was not good mentally, however I had someone try and claim against me for damage to their vehicle and the tracker clearly showed that I was not in the area claimed, so it seemed there was an upside.
However, the employment was compromised when they questioned a route I had taken, they doubted my ability, undermined my confidence(of course they did not, but tried) by suggesting that I was not doing the job 100% These systems are used to enslave humans and get them to be as much like robots as is possible.
I know of ISO systems and Continuous Improvement systems, I studied them at Uni. The tracking systems are not good for psychological well being and I would go so far as to say that they are harmful, much as the CCTV we have watching us all over the place are. We will witness many more instances of extreme human behaviour all the while we have cameras watching us, we are an animal that displays extremes, always have been always will be, it is all about ■■■.
Anyone who cannot see this is naturally under developed in many ways, unfortunately in my experience thus far in the transport industry, the managers of such are under developed in many ways and still rely on the Neanderthal approach more often than not, as do the majority of drivers and other associated staff.
It is a backwards industry trying to facilitate the future and progress of such, it cannot continue.
robroy:
Whoever designed those [zb] things should be regularly dry annaled by a bull for the rest of his natural.
One of the attractions of this job used to be that you were sent out left to your own devices, and told on a Monday ‘Ring me Fri when tipped’ some did play on it but most of us got the job done and completed the workload.
Then tachos came out around 81. About 86 we got cabphones the thin end of the wedge, but you could ignore them.
Then the kiss of death, the Anti Christ of Trucking technology…The Tracker .the final nail in the coffin of a good job to be in.
A lot of drivers now will know nothing else so will not mind it as much as us more experienced types, but I personally hate the [zb] things, although to be fair my boss does not use it to hassle me, but their are a lot out there that are constantly watched, that would totally ■■■■ me right off, and push me over the edge, some wouldsay (in an annoying whiney voice ) " Well if you are doing nothing wrong etc etc’’ …■■■■■■■■ it’s a [zb] liberty.
Just one more downside of being an employed driver to add to the risk v reward equation of being an owner driver.Working as an owner driver obviously putting the clock back to pre tacho era regards the freedom aspect of the job.
robroy:
Whoever designed those [zb] things should be regularly dry annaled by a bull for the rest of his natural.
One of the attractions of this job used to be that you were sent out left to your own devices, and told on a Monday ‘Ring me Fri when tipped’ some did play on it but most of us got the job done and completed the workload.
Then tachos came out around 81. About 86 we got cabphones the thin end of the wedge, but you could ignore them.
Then the kiss of death, the Anti Christ of Trucking technology…The Tracker .the final nail in the coffin of a good job to be in.
A lot of drivers now will know nothing else so will not mind it as much as us more experienced types, but I personally hate the [zb] things, although to be fair my boss does not use it to hassle me, but their are a lot out there that are constantly watched, that would totally ■■■■ me right off, and push me over the edge, some wouldsay (in an annoying whiney voice ) " Well if you are doing nothing wrong etc etc’’ …■■■■■■■■ it’s a [zb] liberty.
just the same argumet some will use regarding the latest governments incarnation the so called" IP bill IPBILL" except the IP bill is a lot worse because it’s on a more personal level , some true and very good info here:http://www.revk.uk/ if you can and are able to read this guy’s blog We as a nation seriously need to petition /protest and reject this as much as we possibly can , the government are paving the way for a potentially step too far policy if not a step too far already,
As the ISP owner rightly says it will not make any difference to what we already have now, but it will waste a lot more of tax payers money & increase the national debt even further if it hasn’t done so already, simply /burntly put it will not make any difference , will not stop prevent make any more difficult any communication between any terrorist activity or criminal activity as such it’s alleged purpose is floored , apple have the right idea also telling the likes of the NSA FBI ect to do 1
IMO david the Scamer CON and co (ukplc) are no more than a Posh talking Oxygen Thieves
Juddian:
They were introduced to comply with the requirements of the fourth reich, and Tommy if you don’t do az you are told and fit a spy machine you vill only be able to drive 281 miles in one shift.
tommy t:
just the same argumet some will use regarding the latest governments incarnation the so called" IP bill IPBILL" except the IP bill is a lot worse because it’s on a more personal level , some true and very good info here:http://www.revk.uk/ if you can and are able to read this guy’s blog We as a nation seriously need to petition /protest and reject this as much as we possibly can , the government are paving the way for a potentially step too far policy if not a step too far already,
As the ISP owner rightly says it will not make any difference to what we already have now, but it will waste a lot more of tax payers money & increase the national debt even further if it hasn’t done so already, simply /burntly put it will not make any difference , will not stop prevent make any more difficult any communication between any terrorist activity or criminal activity as such it’s alleged purpose is floored , apple have the right idea also telling the likes of the NSA FBI ect to do 1
IMO david the Scamer CON and co (ukplc) are no more than a Posh talking Oxygen Thieves
usually do double that or somewhere near( except in the uk) I wonder why Could it be that be? (Warning risk of off topic communication or is it ? Please use real common sense on this, well we can all hope) In the uk we are an over populated country, or is it that house building and infrastructure hasn’t expanded at the same rate? yes the uk is one of if not the most densely populated country in the (scary word, abbreviation) EU (hopefully not for much longer) we need to expel & cease taking more people regardless of were they come from !!!
As for the Global population that is growing in some places at a alarming rates. all because their bull ■■■■■■ religions are anti condom or other contraception , A backwards society or people who refuse to use the brains they were born with , this if we are to continue to live on this planet cannot continue without serious consequences for many , sad but very true the world can’t feed them all,just maybe another WW is the answer ?
robroy:
Whoever designed those [zb] things should be regularly dry annaled by a bull for the rest of his natural.
One of the attractions of this job used to be that you were sent out left to your own devices, and told on a Monday ‘Ring me Fri when tipped’ some did play on it but most of us got the job done and completed the workload.
Then tachos came out around 81. About 86 we got cabphones the thin end of the wedge, but you could ignore them.
Then the kiss of death, the Anti Christ of Trucking technology…The Tracker .the final nail in the coffin of a good job to be in.
A lot of drivers now will know nothing else so will not mind it as much as us more experienced types, but I personally hate the [zb] things, although to be fair my boss does not use it to hassle me, but their are a lot out there that are constantly watched, that would totally ■■■■ me right off, and push me over the edge, some wouldsay (in an annoying whiney voice ) " Well if you are doing nothing wrong etc etc’’ …■■■■■■■■ it’s a [zb] liberty.
We , along with our other fellow dinosaurs look back with rose tinted glasses but some of it just may be of use occasionally…perhaps.
But having looked at a PCL truck pulling for Arla the other day made me glad to be retired.
Cameras front and sides and also on the driver ! And a device that records all as well as live video to their office…I would be sacked the first day without a doubt.
And Dipper Dave would be a star wearing his pink tutu whilst driving no doubt.
robroy:
Whoever designed those [zb] things should be regularly dry annaled by a bull for the rest of his natural.
But having looked at a PCL truck pulling for Arla the other day made me glad to be retired.
Cameras front and sides and also on the driver ! And a device that records all as well as live video to their office…I would be sacked the first day without a doubt.
And Dipper Dave would be a star wearing his pink tutu whilst driving no doubt.
Awaiting some input/output from the Dipper, it’s likely to be entertaining if past forum experience is anything to go bye ,rest assured he would give em something to think, worry , or even fantasise about
.the final nail in the coffin of a good job to be in.
