trailer is over 7 metres so needs to be pulled by 3.5t+,
trailer weight is under 3.5t and carries no load or goods
can i tow with a motorhome or mini bus without OP license?
cheers
Is it for business as you may need a tacho.
kemperink:
trailer is over 7 metres so needs to be pulled by 3.5t+,
trailer weight is under 3.5t and carries no load or goodscan i tow with a motorhome or mini bus without OP license?
cheers
Is trailer plated MAM weight under 3.5 tonne or actual weight ?
Whats the plated trailer weights?
Im sure its the weights that dictates the towing vehicle needed, not the length, aslong as your less then 16.5m, or is it 18.65. Anyway its the weight not length.
I am sure the max lenght of such a trailer used to be 7 metres overall ,one of ours went to Malaga and got tugged and measures it was a 14 ft bodied ifor ,if it had been the 16 ft bodied one we would of got done for no marker boards .
weight of trailer is 3400kg, it carries no load
length restrictions come from
Width and length
The maximum trailer width for any towing vehicle is 2.55 metres.
The maximum length for a trailer towed by a vehicle weighing up to 3,500kg is 7 metres. This length does not include the A-frame.
Yes but operator’s licence is not a deciding factor or do you mean C+E/D+E driving category.
You can go up to relevant LGV trailer dimensions on a vehicle plated 3.5t+.
Personal or business use are the deciding factors for o-licence/tacho.
Is this for private use or a commercial job 
If the trailer excluding A frame is more than 7 metres then it is clear it needs to be towed by a vehicle over 3.5 tonnes
That being the case then what category of vehicle are you going to be towing it with - D1, C1 etc
Do you have the licence such as C1E, D1E etc
From your replies I assume the PLATED WEIGHT on the trailer is not more than 3.5 tonnes
We need all this info to ensure we give correct answers
plated weight is not more than 3500kg
licence, tacho, hours etc. is not a problem
it just the ops licence and if its required
will tow with 4x4 or motorhome, van or minibus or whatever will get me around the ops licence
the inspectorate don’t know
it would be commercial but carry no goods
kemperink:
plated weight is not more than 3500kglicence, tacho, hours etc. is not a problem
it just the ops licence and if its required
will tow with 4x4 or motorhome, van or minibus or whatever will get me around the ops licence
the inspectorate don’t know
it would be commercial but carry no goods
Most 4x4s are dual purpose vehicles so exempt O licence regs
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … owners.pdf
Dual-purpose vehicle and trailer
combinationsA dual purpose vehicle and any trailer
drawn by it, is identified as being exempt
from operator licensing under existing
legislation. Therefore, where you use a
4x4 and trailer, an operator’s licence will
not be required.
Sorry, from the information given, there is no legal way to avoid fitting a tow vehicle, that must be plated over 3.5t, with a tachograph and running under an o-licence.
ROG:
Most 4x4s are dual purpose vehicles so exempt O licence regs
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … owners.pdfDual-purpose vehicle and trailer
combinationsA dual purpose vehicle and any trailer
drawn by it, is identified as being exempt
from operator licensing under existing
legislation. Therefore, where you use a
4x4 and trailer, an operator’s licence will
not be required.
that looks like it would cover the job,
cheers
kemperink:
ROG:
Most 4x4s are dual purpose vehicles so exempt O licence regs
gov.uk/government/uploads/s … owners.pdfDual-purpose vehicle and trailer
combinationsA dual purpose vehicle and any trailer
drawn by it, is identified as being exempt
from operator licensing under existing
legislation. Therefore, where you use a
4x4 and trailer, an operator’s licence will
not be required.that looks like it would cover the job,
cheers
It won’t because your trailer is too big in size dimensions and likely too heavy (must be under 1020kg tare) to qualify for that exemption.
For the size of the trailer there is no useful exemption to use it in connection with a business and avoid the tachograph and o-licence regime unless you fancy joining the Showman’s Guild.
Agree with post above
Trailer is deemed too long to be towed with a vehicle under 3500 kg GVW so must be towed with a C or D category vehicle
Towing with a C/D cat vehicle for commercial reasons is not going to be in an exemption
i can find no weight limit on a dual-purpose vehicle class
kemperink:
i can find no weight limit on a dual-purpose vehicle class
Must weigh less than 2040kg unladen but regardless the trailer must weigh less than 1080kg, in the first place, for the small trailer exemption.
Sorry but for the trailer dimensions stated the previous answers are definitive it needs a tachgraph fitted tow vehicle and an o-licence.
What is the maximum dimensions of a trailer before needing o licence? Can you post link as I’m not heard of it before?
^^ there are none ,it’s done on weight .
Thanks pal
Mattwoodtransport:
What is the maximum dimensions of a trailer before needing o licence? Can you post link as I’m not heard of it before?
Because the trailer is too long to legally tow with a vehicle under 3.5t in plated weight this is what is making the trailer dimensions relevant in this instance regarding o-licences.