foxy stars:
still think that HS2 is going to kill this countryside that i got around me here but it will give all the new influx of eastern europeans (that we’re going to get cos someone called “the prime minister” thinks that it’s a good idea for them to come here) somewhere to go…
i also think that transport will become extremely short runs and no long haul / no nights out — soo in the end we’re going to lose out and wages/rates are going to be considerably less than they are now and so amke the job not worth doing…
^ This.
Rubbish! Rail is too inflexible and expensive in comparison with road. I love getting on a train for a long journey but all that infrastructure still doesn’t get you door to door.
foxy stars:
didn’t think that high speed trains could stir up such passionate emotions about summat so off topic that quite frankly i find the exchanges sumwhat amusing and as goaty pointed out your cage was getting seriously rattled to the point that i thought you were going to blow a fuse…
who actually gives a stuff about an unelected “monarchy” it’s only like europe where we get a beaurocrat forced upon us every now and then - a so called “president”
and if the queen is a lizard then she’s in the right place having a nice pond next to her ott tax payer owned $%^& off big house and do we really need one anyways - i mean she didn’t exactly invite all those eastern europeans here but they came anyways and she didn’t send them packing leaving us to our well paid jobs in our own well spacced spaces did she
was the moon landing real all the nasa footage that i’ve seen shows the flag blowing around in a breeze - how can this be given that there is no weather and zero gravity on the moon
as for e.ts i have no ideas - i live along the lines of “if i don’t interfere with it then it won’t have reason to interfere with me” - hence my attitude towards immigrants, they should have stayed away - by all means come for touristy bits but at least have the decency to go back to the cave that you crawled out of in the first place…
still think that HS2 is going to kill this countryside that i got around me here but it will give all the new influx of eastern europeans (that we’re going to get cos someone called “the prime minister” thinks that it’s a good idea for them to come here) somewhere to go…
i also think that transport will become extremely short runs and no long haul / no nights out — soo in the end we’re going to lose out and wages/rates are going to be considerably less than they are now and so amke the job not worth doing…
Can you quote me to where you think I have been “seriously rattled”■■
And the flag wasn’t blowing around as you rightly say there is no weather on the moon, it was however fixed so the flag stays open in its display form with a flexible rod.
Not every waving flag needs a breeze, at least not in space. When astronauts were planting the flagpole they rotated it back and forth to better penetrate the lunar soil (anyone who’s set a blunt tent-post will know how this works). So of course the flag waved! Unfurling a piece of rolled-up cloth with stored angular momentum will naturally result in waves and ripples – no breeze required.
I believe BUT I’d still like to know where and how they stowed the Lunar Rover on the Lunar Lander.
As for 911 I’d still like to know how a few tonnes of soft thin aluminium managed to cut through zb great big thick steel RSJ’s/I beams supporting loads of building above them like a knife through butter without being torn to shreds against the outside of the building first with loads,if not most,of the aircraft landing in the street below .
dear god now we have 911 conspiracy theorists ffs . yep the us government must have blown them up themselves eh?
get a [zb] grip man!!
I didn’t say that just like I didn’t say they never went to the moon but it’s still a bit difficult to believe that they put the lunar rover on the roof of the lunar lander and the way in which a plane just went straight through a load of massive structural steel with thousands of tonnes of building above pressing down on it without getting torn to shreds before it got through.
andrew.s:
hahahaha-he is a prick.he also thinks the queen is a [zb] lizard!! how has he not been locked up yet?
Because he hasn’t been proved wrong■■?
wtf is that supposed to mean? do you think that is the thoughts of a sane person then? or do you think along these lines aswell?
Apologies to the OP, didn’t know that the thread would be hijacked!
The point I was making andrew.s, innocent until proven guilty, if what he says is so wrong why isn’t he on trial?
What if YOU said something to a ‘mate’ in a truckstop and it went against the grain and he/she reported YOU, would you willingly go to jail without being proved wrong by a fair trial?
Not saying he’s right, just saying nobody has proved him wrong.
foxy stars:
still think that HS2 is going to kill this countryside that i got around me here but it will give all the new influx of eastern europeans (that we’re going to get cos someone called “the prime minister” thinks that it’s a good idea for them to come here) somewhere to go…
i also think that transport will become extremely short runs and no long haul / no nights out — soo in the end we’re going to lose out and wages/rates are going to be considerably less than they are now and so amke the job not worth doing…
^ This.
Rubbish! Rail is too inflexible and expensive in comparison with road. I love getting on a train for a long journey but all that infrastructure still doesn’t get you door to door.
No but the train can move loads of freight from dockside or rail freight terminal to rail freight terminal over long distances.Which just leaves getting it from there to the door for the truck.The question is is it then worth running or driving a 44 tonne truck instead of just driving a bus or a taxi for around the same money.Maybe more if/when the truck eventually only gets gets paid by the mile for the job.
at least with the tin box contracts that i’ve seen you get paid from the moment you pick it up to the moment that you return it to the yard — all done in milage though…cos of those pesky trains…
also no need to worry cos the blue brigade are having none of it - the anouncement was yesterday and already the HS2 proposal has been shot to pieces, thinking that the government would be far better off spending the £33billion on the road network instead…it’s also not going to kick off too soon first stage will start in 2017 and then phase 2 to carry it on up this way in 2026 — plenty of time for the tree huggers to realise exactly how much of our natural heritage is going to be lost…
I for one cant see us sticking to our present path as it is. Our roads are bloody choca block.
Whats its gone be like in another 20 years? The whole dam place will be wedged solid.
Do we build more roads? If we build more roads we have more trafic and so the downward spiral continues.
In America alot of intermodal freight is moved by rail over vast distances. Seems that the two forms of transport can co-exist on a day to day basis with great efficency and sucess but there again, ive always thought this country to be so bloody backward where ANY mode of transport is concerned.
Gembo:
I for one cant see us sticking to our present path as it is. Our roads are bloody choca block.
Whats its gone be like in another 20 years? The whole dam place will be wedged solid.
Do we build more roads? If we build more roads we have more trafic and so the downward spiral continues.
In America alot of intermodal freight is moved by rail over vast distances. Seems that the two forms of transport can co-exist on a day to day basis with great efficency and sucess but there again, ive always thought this country to be so bloody backward where ANY mode of transport is concerned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5ZN5tYIBvlA
Considering that we’ve been building 6 lane motorways ( and A roads ) for years often now being widened to 8 lanes compared to many countries where 4 lanes is common we’re certainly not backward.Most hold ups can be put down to zb lane discipline and people driving on motorways at ridiculously low speeds.Which the authorities then made worse with speed limiters set at 90 kmh and often less in many cases.Which just like the safety car on an F1 circuit causes bunching and tailbacks.But the motorways are often under used at night.
The two modes of transport certainly can’t co exist as any rail transport industry employee could tell you and the policy of switching freight from road to rail has nothing whatsoever to do with road congestion.However the video just shows why many drivers,with any sense,in the states are turning their backs on the road tranport industry.Train driving is the way forward and leave the local intermodal zb work for anyone who wants it.
Wiretwister:
About time too. This will provide a lot of work for a good few years some of it for truck drivers. Don’t see this as a bad thing - sorry.
Looking promising for up north. Cleveland Bridge have secured a fair bit of rail work (as well as securing the new 4th Rod Bridge contract), which in turn means we’ll be seeing more of GCS Johnsons pulling 200ft loads
Hitachi Capital are building a massive train factory at Newton Aycliffe, expected to generate 730 jobs and a further 200 construction jobs.
i find that a bit ironic cos all the train making sheds were there but then they pulled them down and now they’re building them again where’s the sense in it
if i can’t find a shire horse team - i might invest in terberg yt220 cos it’s gunna be about the only thing that’s worth operating — company diesel and rates paid by the hour, the truck would pay for itself in the same way a car does only you can run to local jobs with one if necessary…
What is the point of spending all that money on a system that will get you from Leeds to London 20 minutes faster than the system we use now■■? Also it will not be stopping at all the major cities/towns along the way so you will need to get a feeder train/cab to the nearest station it will stop at. Also the ticket price will be far to expensive for everyone to use the train. The present rail system is fine but it needs some investment in track repairs and rolling stock.
Carlc:
What is the point of spending all that money on a system that will get you from Leeds to London 20 minutes faster than the system we use now■■?
Thats only a very small part of the bigger picture. It will free up lots of capacity on the very full east coast and west coast mainlines respectivly, ie, it will allow more freight paths to be freed up on those 2 major trunk routes. There are alot of freight oppurtunitys on both those lines but they cant run as both are near maximum capacity having to share the same lines as 125 mph passenger trains. It will also free up extra capacity for local services.
Carlc:
Also it will not be stopping at all the major cities/towns along the way so you will need to get a feeder train/cab to the nearest station it will stop at. Also the ticket price will be far to expensive for everyone to use the train.
Yes it will. HS2 will link eight of Britain’s ten biggest cities, bringing the major cities within 20 minutes of each other and two-thirds of people in the north to within two hours of London.
where’s the sense in it 
