Are you one of the drivers that Tesco dumped?
Are you going to take one of the jobs that stobart have offered you?
Solly:
Oh! BTW what’s Stobarts thoughts on making drivers redundant for Christmas?
They will!! Happened to me last year…finished Dec 23rd
Well i dont work for stobarts but i was made to sign a social media policy the other week ■■■■■■■ feart to post on here now, need to double check everything i write in case i get bumped for moaning about a customer or summit. My facebook is locked up tight so they cannae see and so is my twitter. We where told the company monitors all social sites 
Solly:
@Haribo4000
A link would be helpful mate.Oh! BTW what’s Stobarts thoughts on making drivers redundant for Christmas?
haven’t they all been offered jobs?
dri-diddly-iver:
Solly:
Oh! BTW what’s Stobarts thoughts on making drivers redundant for Christmas?They will!! Happened to me last year…finished Dec 23rd
Yup my dad got finished the same date last year.
starfighter:
Winseer:
What’s “Social Media Policy”?Is that one of those things were you give up the right to free speech, as if you’ve joined a communist state?
Basically says you mustn’t say anything naughty about the company or reveal any privileged information. I seem to recall some members on here have gotten into trouble for posting diaries with pictures when a customer complained.
It means: Keep what you know about Stobarts to yourself as we like to paint a picture of one big happy family. In reality Stobarts’ public image may well be different if certain things were commony known.
An interesting point: Why are companies so up tight about postings on here? If they are run professionally and treat drivers well - what are they afraid of? 
Truckulent:
starfighter:
Winseer:
What’s “Social Media Policy”?Is that one of those things were you give up the right to free speech, as if you’ve joined a communist state?
Basically says you mustn’t say anything naughty about the company or reveal any privileged information. I seem to recall some members on here have gotten into trouble for posting diaries with pictures when a customer complained.
It means: Keep what you know about Stobarts to yourself as we like to paint a picture of one big happy family. In reality Stobarts’ public image may well be different if certain things were commony known.
An interesting point: Why are companies so up tight about postings on here? If they are run professionally and treat drivers well - what are they afraid of?
but it’s not just a stobart thing, or a haulage thing, i’d guess it’s the norm in an any big business
stevieboy308:
Truckulent:
starfighter:
Winseer:
What’s “Social Media Policy”?Is that one of those things were you give up the right to free speech, as if you’ve joined a communist state?
Basically says you mustn’t say anything naughty about the company or reveal any privileged information. I seem to recall some members on here have gotten into trouble for posting diaries with pictures when a customer complained.
It means: Keep what you know about Stobarts to yourself as we like to paint a picture of one big happy family. In reality Stobarts’ public image may well be different if certain things were commony known.
An interesting point: Why are companies so up tight about postings on here? If they are run professionally and treat drivers well - what are they afraid of?
but it’s not just a stobart thing, or a haulage thing, i’d guess it’s the norm in an any big business
Possibly. But. I repeat the last sentence of the post above…what are they afraid of?
I wouldn’t have thought it would be a case of being afraid. If I owned a company I wouldn’t want my employees Slagging me off or discussing contracts, prices and plans with Joe bloggs.
That Joe bloggs knows enough already.
its just the way of the world.....like a landrover salesman not telling you about reliability issues,before hes got your dosh 
It’s gone very off topic this thread lol.
Truckulent:
stevieboy308:
Truckulent:
starfighter:
Winseer:
What’s “Social Media Policy”?Is that one of those things were you give up the right to free speech, as if you’ve joined a communist state?
Basically says you mustn’t say anything naughty about the company or reveal any privileged information. I seem to recall some members on here have gotten into trouble for posting diaries with pictures when a customer complained.
It means: Keep what you know about Stobarts to yourself as we like to paint a picture of one big happy family. In reality Stobarts’ public image may well be different if certain things were commony known.
An interesting point: Why are companies so up tight about postings on here? If they are run professionally and treat drivers well - what are they afraid of?
but it’s not just a stobart thing, or a haulage thing, i’d guess it’s the norm in an any big business
Possibly. But. I repeat the last sentence of the post above…what are they afraid of?
well even the best run company in the world won’t get it right all the time.
i can understand why a company would want to appoint their own spokesmen
a driver goes on a rant about something without knowing all the facts, but if he knew all the facts it would paint a different picture.
a driver goes on the rant about something mid problem, when the resolved issue might be nowhere near as bad
surely you can see there can’t be many benefits to the company of a driver slagging off a customer for the whole world to see
my dad used to work for the AA, apparently a patrol attended a breakdown, the member was slagging off their car for having a space saver spare wheel, the AA man agreed they’re crap. the member wrote to car company complaining about the lack of a proper spare wheel and said even the AA man agreed. the AA got a snotty letter complaining about what the patrol had said.
haribo4000:
It’s gone very off topic this thread lol.
ok!
so what are their demands?
I don’t think they know lol.
haribo4000:
@sollyAre you one of the drivers that Tesco dumped?
Are you going to take one of the jobs that stobart have offered you?
Q1. No
Q2. No
BTW. Now I’ve answered your questions maybe you’ll answer one.
On a flat 40hr week eg. are Stobart drivers/you, on more than Tosco drivers?
Don’t be silly 
. If we were they wouldn’t be striking.
C’mon guys, get 'em out!
Increase labour market liquidity and proper capitalist price discovery by comparing like-for like trucking jobs all turned into the hourly rate unit.
Net Hourly Rate=(takehome Pay x hours spent at work x days of week worked.
Eg. You get to work at 06:00 you leave to go home at 18:00 you work monday-friday your takehome pay is £360pw.
You therefore have a net pay of £6.00 per hour after deductions.
Allowances you don’t get paid when absent don’t count. It is illegal to be paid any kind of “piece rate” from what I understand.
POA, paid/unpaid breaks are all irrelevent. It’s how much of your time wasted in your life that counts as “work” here, not “how easy the job is” or “I get to drive a shiny motor” or any other crap like that. I won’t include commuting time, because that’ll be too variable across the industry, and would only distort the figures. 
If you work 40 hours or less and take home £500pw therefore, I’d consider that a pretty cushy number - regardless of what work is involved. Clearing out stable muck? Transporting coffins? - It doesn’t matter.
At the other end of the scale, if you’re spending 90 hours a week at work (40-48 of that driving) and get to take home £480pw, then you’ll end up with a premature place in one of aforementioned coffins I should think. You are NOT on “£10ph” you are on barely half that - £5.33ph net. You should be being paid for being away from home so many hours a week NOT merely when “wheels are turning”.
A low hourly rate then means trying to get such low paid hours as low as possible in the NUMBER of hours department. A part time job on low pay means the losses don’t get compounded. Compulsory LONG hours at low pay rates are an evil the industry could really do without though. 
It’s bad enough when it’s compulsory long hours on GOOD rates of pay, but those are the “dead man’s shoes” jobs even now.
The worst jobs? - Vehicle deliveries perhaps? The best jobs? Parcel deliveries?
Who’s got the biggest ■■■■■■■?
The fact is that no matter how much people moan, wages in this industry are getting worse.
I blame 3 things.
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job centre putting unemployed through lgv training for free.
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influx of eastern Europeans with Kellogg licences. (They will work for peanuts and not whine)
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government inflation, people cannot afford to turn work down and companies know this.
Look at agencies, even they are getting away with paying less than 10 squids an hour.
I hear driver’s saying ’ I wouldn’t get out of bed for less than £10ph.
Satchels! If you lost your job and needed to put food on the table for your family, Would you turn round and say ‘I ain’t getting out of bed for that wage pal, my family will have to go without’
The only jobs that pay well are rightly mentioned ‘dead man’s shoes’ jobs.
If you get one of those, super, keep it.
If your not lucky enough to have one then join the rest of us and get on with what you have.
Everyone wants an extra £1 an hour, in my opinion it’s not going to happen whilst the 3 above reasons are still there.
I’m sure someone will disagree. But that’s my thoughts, for now anyway 
Rant over!
haribo4000:
Don’t be silly
So you are on more than them eh?
For a 40hr week?
No wonder you don’t want them to be equal in wages! 
They are a threat to you…thats why you kick them in the balls. ■■■■■■■ parasite that you are. 
Too many women prefer guys with small willies, rather than big ones. A small ■■■■■= more time at work earning a bigger crust, and less time at work disappointing the missus there.
A guy with a large ■■■■ might prefer to come home early, rather than do that bit of optional overtime, and give his missus a good seeing-to.
Not popular to her for the chore it represents, and the fact it won’t fill the second 4x4 on the driveway.
If this sounds like your woman, you need to be spending more time at work.
If it doesn’t, consider dropping your hours! 
Yes, I’m connecting large and small with greater and lesser ■■■ drives it’s true.
Someone is gonna have to admit they are either very small, or perhaps of incidental leanings to call me wrong I’m thinking!
If you’re offered a £6.25ph hour shift “a flat 8” at a distance of 50 miles each way, then you’d be an idiot not to turn it down.
It won’t “put food on the table”, because filling the fuel tank has already stripped the table of any food that otherwise might have been put there already!
If you turn down that shift, and hold out for a £10ph one, you’ve just saved 100 miles of fuel, but dropped £50 gross pay. The tax rebate on that is over a tenner, so at least it’ll pay for a meal that particular day eh? Count the fuel saved as well, and you’ll be able to get a takeaway with the money saved!
Pick up 30 “good” hours instead of 60 “any” hours, and make better use of that wonderful winkle at home where it belongs.