haribo4000:
There are a lot out there who would do anything to get a full time job. People made redundant and still struggling to find a job that pays enough to feed there families, pay there bills and maybe get a family holiday.
These strikes promote nothing more than arrogance. You were offered jobs, yes your T+C’s will be different, but it’s a job, and with bonuses its not bad, I have seen a lot worse. Maybe you should take a look and realise you’ve had it good for a long time. It’s time to wake up and smell the coffee. This is how it is in the real world.
Let’s clear the air here, and see someone post some actual “example” data of OLD T&C’s for a range of different shifted drivers, and the NEW T&Cs. 
We can all speculate around to whys and therefores, but c’mon those actually at this Depot - WHAT is being lost, HOW MUCH are picket line crossers getting paid, WHICH agencies are filling in the gaps, WHAT do THEY get, WHY do the very people on the edge of this dispute seem to be totally disinterested in their own backyard events?
After all those stobbie posts regarding the “I know it’s only £7.20 per hour, but with the allowances, I take home thousands!” arguments, I’m thinking that all the disinformation is just part of the bigger plan to get the wider driving community to accept bum deals by the backdoor. 
Deliberately putting yourself in the crapper can be dressed up as “Catholic Birth Control” after all.
What would happen if every UK LGV 1 and 2 driver stopped working tomorrow for one week? And I mean EVERY driver…all over the country? No UK registered lorry moved for a week? No ifs or buts. No one worked.
Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen please…
Truckulent:
What would happen if every UK LGV 1 and 2 driver stopped working tomorrow for one week? And I mean EVERY driver…all over the country? No UK registered lorry moved for a week? No ifs or buts. No one worked.Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen please…
we would be invaded 
It has been calculated by think tanks that it would take about 15 days of no transport links at all to degenerate this country into a state similar to Somalia.
RDC personnel would be packing firearms, and would be shooting members of the public attempting to loot the warehouses, drivers would be mugged with the mugger then stealing the wagon, and “attempting infiltration” of the RDC - only to get blown away by the gun-toting staff there! 
The government would attempt to move the forces in to guard such places themselves, but since they’d not be paid, they’ll go renegade instead. Needs must. Loyalty to the Crown won’t feed the starving wife and kids, nor prevent them from being mugged whilst you’re at work guarding some assets still deemed to be “belonging to some millionaire”. The forces might even turn on the rich and powerful, and we’d have a full blown “reign of terror” on our hands. They have had a pretty crap deal of it this past decade after all, like so many of the rest of us!
Money would lose value, as it’s only numbered pieces of paper after all. Gold and other precious metal hoards would just see the hoarders getting murdered, and robbed, and the entire country would end up being run by those used to killing the neighbours, such as immigrants from countries already torn apart by civil wars - of which there are many.
I’m deadly serious folks! 
The most likely to survive and prosper at such a time therefore, would be the ex-forces driver with a decent amount of “surplus” in their possession. 
“Surplus”…I’ve got a an Sa80 cleaning kit and some gimpy flanelette in the loft, will that do!
Truckulent:
What would happen if every UK LGV 1 and 2 driver stopped working tomorrow for one week? And I mean EVERY driver…all over the country? No UK registered lorry moved for a week? No ifs or buts. No one worked.Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen please…
It would be chaotic.
Solly:
Truckulent:
What would happen if every UK LGV 1 and 2 driver stopped working tomorrow for one week? And I mean EVERY driver…all over the country? No UK registered lorry moved for a week? No ifs or buts. No one worked.Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen please…
It would be chaotic.
Yes. Would our voices be heard? I’d wager the general public and all politicians would be very quick to slag off all drivers…so let them have a go at the job and see how they enjoy it…
The power to bring the country to a complete standstill is in our hands. The whole country is totally dependent on LGV drivers and we average around £8 hour or thereabouts…
Food for thought perhaps? Or are too many drivers already conditioned to say yes sir, no sir as the servants of past times were? Are we worth more than ■■■■ poor wages?? Are we? Or could the country manage well enough without us all? 
If this scenario were ever to come about with no warning,then each and every one of us would feel the effects in one way or another within 24 hours.Now,if MPs went on strike -no warning, no publicity - how long before anyone would notice? Place your bets!
5RRF:
“Surplus”…I’ve got a an Sa80 cleaning kit and some gimpy flanelette in the loft, will that do!
It might do against the rab c nesbitt lookalike who’s harry monked on the underside of the steering wheel, but that’s about it. 
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Tesco’s finest at Doncaster have walked out (31/10/12) for three days.
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Truckulent:
Yes. Would our voices be heard? I’d wager the general public and all politicians would be very quick to slag off all drivers…so let them have a go at the job and see how they enjoy it…The power to bring the country to a complete standstill is in our hands. The whole country is totally dependent on LGV drivers and we average around £8 hour or thereabouts…
Food for thought perhaps? Or are too many drivers already conditioned to say yes sir, no sir as the servants of past times were? Are we worth more than ■■■■ poor wages?? Are we? Or could the country manage well enough without us all?
Sadly it will be…and remain… as you describe above until such times as “The People” realise exactly how much power they have at their disposal to change things so that they better themselves.
Incidentally a “General Strike” is at present being discussed by many many action groups in the UK…and now is the perfect opportunity to carry it through. In fact an International “General Strike” is already organised for the very near future by many of our “European” counterparts. It’s about time we all joined it and stood together for a better future.
You might even see some firms offering £20ph to cross picket lines during such a strike.
Those being offered thus could then insist upon £20ph as a permanent contract (not just whilst the strikes are on, and with redundancy buyback payable on revoking it! ) and of course, the casual driver then has the perfect excuse to boycott all such work when this very reasonable request is made. 
“The incorruptible man has the highest price of all.”
Dieseldoforme:
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Tesco’s finest at Doncaster have walked out (31/10/12) for three days.
Respect to them.
Are they the only people in the transport industry with balls?
Solly:
Dieseldoforme:
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Tesco’s finest at Doncaster have walked out (31/10/12) for three days.Respect to them.
Are they the only people in the transport industry with balls?
^^^ Agreed 
And i hope no one crosses the picket line, but i doubt it
Solly:
Dieseldoforme:
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Tesco’s finest at Doncaster have walked out (31/10/12) for three days.Respect to them.
Are they the only people in the transport industry with balls?
Good on em
Solly:
Are they the only people in the transport industry with balls?
Possibly - I wouldn’t cross a picket line anyway.
I would spin round and tell the gaffa to get a scab to drive it.
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Solly:
Dieseldoforme:
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Tesco’s finest at Doncaster have walked out (31/10/12) for three days.Respect to them.
Are they the only people in the transport industry with balls?
No, but probably the only ones who are going to be unemployed despite being offered jobs, I wonder if they will be entitled to jobseekers allowance as they are technically actively turning away a job opportunity ■■
Phantom Mark:
No, but probably the only ones who are going to be unemployed despite being offered jobs, I wonder if they will be entitled to jobseekers allowance as they are technically actively turning away a job opportunity ■■
I can only guess, but it looks very much as though they have considered that option and are still willing to take the risk…so it can be argued that they are at present still the only one’s in the industry with balls.
HTH
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Solly:
Dieseldoforme:
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Tesco’s finest at Doncaster have walked out (31/10/12) for three days.Respect to them.
Are they the only people in the transport industry with balls?No, but probably the only ones who are going to be unemployed despite being offered jobs, I wonder if they will be entitled to jobseekers allowance as they are technically actively turning away a job opportunity ■■
According to this report there’s “No promise that the drivers would be re-employed once the 90 days was up”
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