Tommy Robinson, saint or sinner?

@GasGas, you really need to do a bit more research into this if you are going to make untrue statements without evidence to back it up. Firstly, I think you are getting the Canterbury case mixed up with the, quashed by the High Court, Leeds case. All the documentation relating to both these case’s is available online and makes very interesting reading.

Although it is debatable that the Canterbury incident was ‘inside’ the actual court it was definitely on the court steps and unbeknown to TR then, the steps are classed as ‘part of the court premises’ ergo contempt was admitted as he had filmed himself on the steps. It was the judge in this case, who took things way beyond her pay grade, that started the ball rolling by giving TR a 3 month suspended sentence and classing it as a criminal offence instead of a civil offence. Secondly, none of the livestream from Leeds breached reporting restrictions in place at the time, and once again the judge in the case went way beyond his pay grade and knowledge and sentenced TR as if it was a criminal offence and not a civil offence. Thirdly, at the High Court, Lord Chief Justice Bennet, quashed the Leeds conviction and admonished Judge Marson, from LCC, in open court, he also quashed the sentence from Canterbury CC but not the conviction as that was admitted. If you search out the transcript, that the LHCJ Bennets’ High Court, produced you will see that all the evidence given in the transcript show that TR was not allowed due process and all the reasons why.

As for Scargill, he didn’t need to do dodgy deals with the Libyans to be discredited, he had already done that to himself as soon as he called a national miners strike without a full membership ballot. I was working out of Manchester Container Base at the time and it was highly unionised and I was the drivers rep; for the comapny I worked for. The TGWU wanted us to come out in sympathy and so did another company’s drivers who had taken on the ACT contract from BRS, and were very militant and lazy, wanted everybody out as well, but it was never going to happen for the very reason I have stated. A ballot of every company that worked out of the base and base staff was organised and needless to say the militants lost it by a long way, I supported the coal face miners in their action because I was a working class trade unionist, but I didn’t support Scargill because he was an out an out Communist and if anyone was going to destroy the coal industry it was him, if he had just done some more ‘research’ and spoken to some of us in the haulage game he would have learnt that Thatcher had been having coal stockpiled all over the Country for at least 2 years and the miners were never going to win in any long term strike, just as happened, but Richard Craniums like Scargill were intent on reliving past glories and bringing down the Tory Government, that he couldn’t see farther than his big nose.

Well, you have done a good job of not answering any of the questions I posed to you, so maybe you weren’t a lorry driver before being a trade ‘journalist’ because that is a pure journalistic tactic, deflect and change the subject. Did you think I wouldn’t notice?

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Regards
Dave Penn;

davepenn54:
As for Scargill, he didn’t need to do dodgy deals with the Libyans to be discredited, he had already done that to himself as soon as he called a national miners strike without a full membership ballot. I was working out of Manchester Container Base at the time and it was highly unionised and I was the drivers rep; for the comapny I worked for. The TGWU wanted us to come out in sympathy and so did another company’s drivers who had taken on the ACT contract from BRS, and were very militant and lazy, wanted everybody out as well, but it was never going to happen for the very reason I have stated. A ballot of every company that worked out of the base and base staff was organised and needless to say the militants lost it by a long way, I supported the coal face miners in their action because I was a working class trade unionist, but I didn’t support Scargill because he was an out an out Communist and if anyone was going to destroy the coal industry it was him, if he had just done some more ‘research’ and spoken to some of us in the haulage game he would have learnt that Thatcher had been having coal stockpiled all over the Country for at least 2 years and the miners were never going to win in any long term strike, just as happened, but Richard Craniums like Scargill were intent on reliving past glories and bringing down the Tory Government, that he couldn’t see farther than his big nose.

To be fair many misguided Socialists/Communists are actually just that IE there’s a big difference between someone who mistakenly ‘thinks’ they are one before or without them standing back and taking an objective critical view of that ideological position,as opposed to the real deal full on committed ideologically lost Marxist,but just don’t realise it.Myself having been one and arguably Benn,Heffer and Shore being others.I’d give Scargill the benefit of the doubt in that regard in that he certainly defeated Heath on a justified union solidarity ticket not a Communist one and he was then proved right,concerning Thatcher’s intent to destroy the Brit mining industry to the benefit of foreign coal producers.While it’s obvious that it was the lack of union solidarity that defeated the miners in 1984 and any union is toothless and powerless ‘unless’ it’s ‘militant’ and goes by the general rule of never cross a picket line,as proved since 1979.Similar could be said about Jimmy Hoffa.IE who really gained from Thatcher being allowed to smash the the UK unions starting with the Scargill led NUM elite and the removal of Hoffa from the scene.Both being rightly classed as ‘militants’ and isn’t union solidarity by definition militancy from the point of view of the employer classes.

On that note if Scargill made any mistake it’s that he didn’t give Heath a way out by accepting Heath’s deal to end the 1970’s miners’ strike on the basis of better the devil we know than the all too predictable and inevitable Thatcherite takeover of the agenda which followed Heath’s defeat.Bearing in mind that Callaghan and Healey were also never going to be any friends of the Brit working class.

GasGas:
I’d say the rise of Facebook, You Tube etc makes contempt of court all the more important…no one wants to undergo trial by public opinion rather than a jury of 12 who have heard all the evidence and legal argument.

I believe Robinson was arrested by the police for filming inside the court, just as anyone would be. And any journalist knows that’s a no-no right from the start.

Like I say, if he’s going to dabble in court reporting he needs to book himself a course where he can find out what he can and can’t do…just like the rest of us.

He was lucky in some ways that the judge over-reacted and gave him a manifestly illegal punishment this time.

There are two contempt offences. One is for failing to follow the direction of a court, and you can get 2 years for that as it’s a criminal offence.

The other is basically being disrespectful of the court, or publishing material subject to restrictions etc.

The judge appears to have muddled the two.

As Wikki says…“Contempt of court has a significant impact on journalism in the form of restrictions on court reporting which are set out in statute in the UK .”

If you make things said on social media “contempt of court” or “Libel” or “defamation” etc etc - then any attmped to polaraize the definition of what constitutes an “offence” - is clearly the battleground to be won by warring factions such as Left vs Right.

Take the recent issue of Judge Kavanaugh in America for example.
Not only is this JUDGE accused of a crime with no evidence whatsoever other than “hearsay”, - he’s considered GUILTY until proven innocent by the “Not My President” maniacs that now pass as the official opposition, and despite being CLEARED by what can be considered to be his peers - the Judge STILL routinely gets refered to as “A ■■■■■■ who’s now installed at the supreme court” by the MSM !

This sort of behaviour absolutely beggars belief!

The only “promise” the Left have kept here - is to be “Ungovernable”! So ten years ago - you could get busted for Libel/Defamation of Character etc. and NOW we have actual TV people spewing forth their already-proven-to-be LIES aimed at a wrongly-accused man already found INNOCENT.

It the Left keep on pushing like this - then they will eventually reap the whirlwind.

Millions of right-wingers with guns who’d just LOVE to be given the word to “exterminate every criminal you find”.

The average gun-toting bod of any poltical persuasion - is barely kept in check as it is!

<Nutcase “Unhinged Leftie” approaches farmestead…>

“Hey scumbag! - Come out and get what’s coming to you! I’ve told the authorities that you’ve raped my kids, and killed my pets! This is a Democrat held state, so they’ve taken me dead seriously as they should! Now are you going to submit to my citizen’s arrest or not? HEY I’m talking to you taxpaing ■■■■■■■! I’m entitled to all your stuff by right of LAWYER on my saysay because only the Left tells the truth, and you can’t prove you’re not lying - so you’re ALWAYS going to be in the wrong! - HEY come out - or I’m coming in!”
<Walks in door, terrified homstead owner blows him away two seconds later>

In America - that is considered a fair fight.

What if such a scenario happened in Britain though?

We’re already got court cases being aimed at ex-soldiers “for killing the enemy” or “abusing prisoners”

FFS what were we supposed to do to the “enemy” or “prisoners”?

Have a sing-song? Give him a bit of my sandwich? Rehabilitiate them so they know which benefits to claim and how to claim them in the future?
Oh yes. The “enemy” has been installed in a residence in London that locals cannot posssibly afford to rent. Once there, he’s called all his family over, which are allowed to join him under “freedom of movement” - despite not being an EU citizen, nor having any slight intent to get a job nor “get with the British way of life” once here.

Nope.

The more the Left punish the Right for “speaking” against such travesties taking place right before our eyes - then the time will come eventually when we too - consider resorting to that age-old solver of “poltical conflicts” - open warfare.

It is against the law in this country to defend yourself using deadly force as it stands.
Technically, if a burglar breaks into your house unarmed, grabs a kitchen knife, and orders you to convert to Islam or die - then you have two options - convert to Islam or die.

If you take them down, then YOU are in court for using undue force against a vulnerable member of society who was unarmed when he broke into your house. His threats are only “hearsay”, as you didn’t get it on video, and your terrified family are blamed for their predicament for “marrying a White Supremacist” instead of a uncertain gender allocation of non-white ethnicity. Alternatively, the police send a car around next week to find the whole family wiped out, and said perp “nowhere to be found”. Footage taken of them by neighbors - the police don’t want, as it was taken without the assailant’s permission, and is therefore not admissible in court.

FFS. Anyone know how I can get sponsorship to emmigrate?

The whole Western LAWYER is the spiecies that threatens the whole of mankind the most now.

It is the LAW that has failed - letting all the old evils rise up to be a threat to the general population again. We can’t even have an honest WAR to cull down that excess population who seem to be increasingly “mentally ill”, and yet quick enough to consider murdering a political opponent, whilst refusing to fight for their host country, nor the one they came from, hence ran away from as deserting cowards.

No lawer can order the general public to “just bare your breast, and let them insert the knife - IF you don’t want to convert”.
It doesn’t matter if you’re religious or not - just that you’re an “Infidel”.
It doesn’t matter if you’re Rich or Poor - because do you think they will be asking you for your political persuasion, and “calmly move onto the next house” should you say “Hey guys, I voted to let you lot in!” Nope.
Killing tends to be indiscrimiate, when it comes. Murderers are not usually “Assassins” with a clear target. That makes a common scumbag murder actually sound like a discliplined soldier. Don’t give them such a lofty definition!

Isn’t it strange that we’ve yet to see any public figures bumped off by these people… I remember in the 70’s and 80’s where a number of our Westminster crowd - were killed, wounded, or maimed by the IRA actions.
What was done about *that? - Nothing. Sinn Fein and the IRA should have been exterminated down to the last man - but no.
We let them off… And let them off. and when eventually they have any degree of power - they act to get rid of the now “minority” of us that want them gone.

No thanks.

Tommy Robinson isn’t trying to be a “Saint”, and has no chance in not being a “Sinner”. just like the rest of us.

Support him - because otherwise when some villain comes, now fully protected by the law… - there won’t be anyone else to help you.

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It is the LAW that I now suggest - is our greatest enemy of all.

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(For those of you not of a religious leaning…)

Stupid Laws have made the bad guys powerful…

They can attack you, kill you, ruin your life, destroy your family - and expect colour TV, Pool Table, and three meals a day as “punishment”. They can also expect representation in political circles, postitive discrimination in competing for jobs.

What about your rights?

You have the right to vote for a minor party, and try and bring about change.
If you do - you will be relentlessly bullied by other evil agents who don’t even realize that the time will come when they too - will be thrown under the bus by the “infidel haters”, bearing in mind that a lot of politicians of all poltiical leanings are atheists (in this country and wider Western Europe rather than America), and NOT therefore a natural ally for people who believe everything they do - has been ordered by God (or rather “Allah”) - which exhonorates them of any personal responsibility whatsoever.

If you’re not a Christian - then what are you even doing “inviting your enemy in to kill you, your family, and all your neighbors?”

“Love thy enemy as yourself”. FFS You’re not supposed to believe in Christ - so couldn’t you find some other nonsense creed to follow, maybe read the horoscopes, pay fifty notes to watch ■■■■■■■■■-unsure blokes kick a ball about for 90 minutes, or bet on “favourites” in sporting events or something?

There wasn’t anything wrong with Islam in this country - all the while we only got to see the best members of society that it had to offer.
Nowadays though - we only seem to get to the very worst. Flotsam from countries that are not even starving, or at war in many cases.
They come here - because we are stupid enough to encourage them to come.

All Britain had to do to “stay in line with international laws” - was have the same rules for immigration as other countries.

“You don’t get in - unless you have a desired trade AND you have a job lined up”.

What was so racist/bigoted/sexist/nationalist about THAT? :imp:

It is against the law in this country to defend yourself using deadly force as it stands.
Technically, if a burglar breaks into your house unarmed, grabs a kitchen knife, and orders you to convert to Islam or die - then you have two options - convert to Islam or die.
If you take them down, then YOU are in court for using undue force against a vulnerable member of society who was unarmed when he broke into your house. His threats are only “hearsay”, as you didn’t get it on video, and your terrified family are blamed for their predicament for “marrying a White Supremacist” instead of a uncertain gender allocation of non-white ethnicity. Alternatively, the police send a car around next week to find the whole family wiped out, and said perp “nowhere to be found”. Footage taken of them by neighbors - the police don’t want, as it was taken without the assailant’s permission, and is therefore not admissible in court.

That’s not actually true though, is it?

You can take ‘reasonable steps’ to defend yourself using ‘proportionate’ force…and the threshold for what becomes ‘unreasonable’ or ‘disproportionate’ rises considerably if you are in your own home.

Even in the street, the threshold is quite high. The case of Shane Bryant in Ashby de la Zouch did not result in anyone going to court.

But what you are not allowed to do is kill someone who is running away or chase someone off your property and then kill them in the street.

That means, someone can break in, kill all but you - and if you chase them out into the street, and so much as bang his head on the ground rugby-tackling them as the police arrive…

YOU end up in court.

Sorry bud, our laws are full of holes.
Until and unless the police and law authorities directly authorize the use of deadly force by residents in their own properties against ANY assailant, “no questions asked” - then occasions where the police take “no action” are woefully going to be few and far between.

In any case, “No action” means that when the overcome assailant’s family come after you - where are the police going to be then?

Not protecting you either. Their role is what? these days.

Even speed cameras don’t flash at anywhere near “every vehicle speeding”, nor traffic wardens zealously ticket every vehicle in the street…

The Police, I fear have become the same as our Westminster shower, and back rooms of unelected civil servants too…

They all commit fraud by turning up to work, getting nothing meaningful done unless a rare “high profile event” happens at their local level, - but drawing full salary for it, when they ain’t going sick on full pay of course.

UKtramp:

Carryfast:
South African Rand is worth more than 10 times less than it was under the best of ‘wrong colour’ rule and income levels are around 5 times more. :laughing:

Your maths are as credible as your idea that the ANC wasn’t a Communist affiliated organisation and Mandela knew it let alone the rest of your typically deluded laughably biased Commy bs.With the Chinese Communist Party being the obvious winners in the case of SA.

You are completely deluded. I used to think of you as quite Knowledgeable & interesting at times. I look on you now in a total different light.

Are you still about??

Oh dear. I’m a lorry driver. Have been for over 40 years now.
I’m not racist, xenophobic or right-wing.
Where did I go wrong?

By the way, Tommy Robinson is a ■■■■■

Sounds like someone has overdone the Ribena again :open_mouth:

Regards
Dave Penn;

Winseer:
That means, someone can break in, kill all but you - and if you chase them out into the street, and so much as bang his head on the ground rugby-tackling them as the police arrive…

YOU end up in court.

Sorry bud, our laws are full of holes.

That is not a hole in the law. You are allowed to use reasonable force to effect an arrest, just as you are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself.

But what is reasonable force to arrest somebody running away, is not the same as what is reasonable to defend yourself from a mortal threat coming at you.

Even a policeman is not generally allowed to smash people’s heads into the pavement or chase after a fleeing burglar with a dagger and plunge it in the moment he catches up.

Despite all the hype about self-defence, there are no cases that I can recall where a householder has gone to jail, other than where there were other egregious violations of the law.

Tony Martin is a prime example, however sympathetic we may be to his feelings and motives, the reality is that rather than taking simple steps to better secure his dilapidated property (and comply with normal methods of robustness and patterns of deterrence in our society), he instead purchased an illegal shotgun, laid in wait for an apparent intruder, and then fired into the dark without warning. That sort of conduct was illegal even in Victorian times.

By contrast, Kenny Noye, a known thug and gangster and later a convicted murderer in an unrelated case, was acquitted by a jury for stabbing a plain-clothes policeman to death on his property, when the policeman came at Noye out of a hedge and didn’t identify himself (because the policeman was himself involved in an unsanctioned and illegal surveillance operation, and didn’t want to disclose his identity to Noye).

The law as it stands will protect you, provided you understand the distinction between your own defence from an immediate and continuing threat, and the dishing out of summary vigilante justice for perceived violations of the law.

The vast majority of people who express paranoia about burglary or spend endless hours complaining about self-defence laws, would do better to simply turn their attention to locking their doors at night and ensure that any forced entry must necessarily entail noise and delay during which a householder can wake themselves up, turn on lights, assess the situation properly, call for help, and arm themselves - the mere prospect of which will deter the burglar who simply wants valuables, and which will give indisputable grounds for pre-emptive attack against the violent or crazed burglar as soon as he succeeds in gaining entry.

Until and unless the police and law authorities directly authorize the use of deadly force by residents in their own properties against ANY assailant, “no questions asked” - then occasions where the police take “no action” are woefully going to be few and far between.

There never will be that authorisation, because the penalty for mere burglary is not death, and there have to be procedures of justice in order to prevent deaths from misunderstandings, setups, uncontrolled escalation of retribution, and other undesirable effects.

In America where such thinking has more purchase, there have been a series of disasters over the years as a consequence. The police, facing paranoid, tooled-up householders, frequently have to enter with overwhelming force, blowing all four walls off - a man whose house was raised on mistaken intelligence once remarked that the police left his house looking “worse than Osama’s”. In another similar case, the police, using flashbangs, blew the face off a baby.

In a different kind of case, laws which meant householders could use overwhelming force against trespassers, meant a motorist experiencing a breakdown was shot to death when he went to the front door for help.

The main reason that his vids got taken down - was NOT because there was actual “hate speech” etc. in them.
It was because people were looking in the first place ‘to see what all the fuss was about’, and then upon seeing nothing nasty, but some common sense speaking - SHARED those vids, which of course goes completely against the mainstream narrative. :frowning:

Meanwhile, with the Euro elections coming up, where “every vote counts” for UKIP the main party IN those elections as incumbents - What better way to “Put people off voting UKIP” than to push the envelope on this “Robinson is a Terrorist” when we were all brought up to believe that “Robinson is a brand of Barley Water” or that geezer who used to present “Ask the Family” years ago. :unamused:

Liberal voters - will ultimately decide the outcome of Brexit. Not Ex-Liberal voters like myself, but those who are still sitting on the fence, be it via “not voting”, or “supporting Remain in the past for a reason that now looks defunct”. If THIS crowd got behind No Deal and then UKIP should that be knobbled (as it looks like it HAS been…) - we’ll know in the next few weeks. Council Elections with lots of new UKIP and Green candidates - should look interesting. (You vote Green if you’re a leftist, who doesn’t approve of Corbyn’s Labour as it stands…)

“Spoiling your Ballot Paper” - helps Corbyn’s Labour out though. I would not recommend such action, unless you are a Labour voter, and have lost heart in Corbyn’s way of doing things then.

Winseer:
The main reason that his vids got taken down - was NOT because there was actual “hate speech” etc. in them.
It was because people were looking in the first place ‘to see what all the fuss was about’, and then upon seeing nothing nasty, but some common sense speaking - SHARED those vids, which of course goes completely against the mainstream narrative. :frowning:

Meanwhile, with the Euro elections coming up, where “every vote counts” for UKIP the main party IN those elections as incumbents - What better way to “Put people off voting UKIP” than to push the envelope on this “Robinson is a Terrorist” when we were all brought up to believe that “Robinson is a brand of Barley Water” or that geezer who used to present “Ask the Family” years ago. :unamused:

Liberal voters - will ultimately decide the outcome of Brexit. Not Ex-Liberal voters like myself, but those who are still sitting on the fence, be it via “not voting”, or “supporting Remain in the past for a reason that now looks defunct”. If THIS crowd got behind No Deal and then UKIP should that be knobbled (as it looks like it HAS been…) - we’ll know in the next few weeks. Council Elections with lots of new UKIP and Green candidates - should look interesting. (You vote Green if you’re a leftist, who doesn’t approve of Corbyn’s Labour as it stands…)

“Spoiling your Ballot Paper” - helps Corbyn’s Labour out though. I would not recommend such action, unless you are a Labour voter, and have lost heart in Corbyn’s way of doing things then.

The mainstream narrative has got it spot on here . . . Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a ■■■■■

I’m surprised this OP title hasn’t flagged up, and been shut down yet?

Winseer:
I’m surprised this OP title hasn’t flagged up, and been shut down yet?

If facetwit twitbook or gaggle owned this site i’m quite certain those posts not towing the mainstream line of condemning Tommy would already have been removed, quite likely those posters already under the scrutiny of GCHQ as it is.

Winseer:

GasGas:
I’d say the rise of Facebook, You Tube etc makes contempt of court all the more important…no one wants to undergo trial by public opinion rather than a jury of 12 who have heard all the evidence and legal argument.

I believe Robinson was arrested by the police for filming inside the court, just as anyone would be. And any journalist knows that’s a no-no right from the start.

Like I say, if he’s going to dabble in court reporting he needs to book himself a course where he can find out what he can and can’t do…just like the rest of us.

He was lucky in some ways that the judge over-reacted and gave him a manifestly illegal punishment this time.

There are two contempt offences. One is for failing to follow the direction of a court, and you can get 2 years for that as it’s a criminal offence.

The other is basically being disrespectful of the court, or publishing material subject to restrictions etc.

The judge appears to have muddled the two.

As Wikki says…“Contempt of court has a significant impact on journalism in the form of restrictions on court reporting which are set out in statute in the UK .”

If you make things said on social media “contempt of court” or “Libel” or “defamation” etc etc - then any attmped to polaraize the definition of what constitutes an “offence” - is clearly the battleground to be won by warring factions such as Left vs Right.

Take the recent issue of Judge Kavanaugh in America for example.
Not only is this JUDGE accused of a crime with no evidence whatsoever other than “hearsay”, - he’s considered GUILTY until proven innocent by the “Not My President” maniacs that now pass as the official opposition, and despite being CLEARED by what can be considered to be his peers - the Judge STILL routinely gets refered to as “A ■■■■■■ who’s now installed at the supreme court” by the MSM !

This sort of behaviour absolutely beggars belief!

The only “promise” the Left have kept here - is to be “Ungovernable”! So ten years ago - you could get busted for Libel/Defamation of Character etc. and NOW we have actual TV people spewing forth their already-proven-to-be LIES aimed at a wrongly-accused man already found INNOCENT.

It the Left keep on pushing like this - then they will eventually reap the whirlwind.

Millions of right-wingers with guns who’d just LOVE to be given the word to “exterminate every criminal you find”.

The average gun-toting bod of any poltical persuasion - is barely kept in check as it is!

<Nutcase “Unhinged Leftie” approaches farmestead…>

“Hey scumbag! - Come out and get what’s coming to you! I’ve told the authorities that you’ve raped my kids, and killed my pets! This is a Democrat held state, so they’ve taken me dead seriously as they should! Now are you going to submit to my citizen’s arrest or not? HEY I’m talking to you taxpaing [zb]! I’m entitled to all your stuff by right of LAWYER on my saysay because only the Left tells the truth, and you can’t prove you’re not lying - so you’re ALWAYS going to be in the wrong! - HEY come out - or I’m coming in!”
<Walks in door, terrified homstead owner blows him away two seconds later>

In America - that is considered a fair fight.

What if such a scenario happened in Britain though?

We’re already got court cases being aimed at ex-soldiers “for killing the enemy” or “abusing prisoners”

FFS what were we supposed to do to the “enemy” or “prisoners”?

Have a sing-song? Give him a bit of my sandwich? Rehabilitiate them so they know which benefits to claim and how to claim them in the future?
Oh yes. The “enemy” has been installed in a residence in London that locals cannot posssibly afford to rent. Once there, he’s called all his family over, which are allowed to join him under “freedom of movement” - despite not being an EU citizen, nor having any slight intent to get a job nor “get with the British way of life” once here.

Nope.

The more the Left punish the Right for “speaking” against such travesties taking place right before our eyes - then the time will come eventually when we too - consider resorting to that age-old solver of “poltical conflicts” - open warfare.

It is against the law in this country to defend yourself using deadly force as it stands.
Technically, if a burglar breaks into your house unarmed, grabs a kitchen knife, and orders you to convert to Islam or die - then you have two options - convert to Islam or die.

If you take them down, then YOU are in court for using undue force against a vulnerable member of society who was unarmed when he broke into your house. His threats are only “hearsay”, as you didn’t get it on video, and your terrified family are blamed for their predicament for “marrying a White Supremacist” instead of a uncertain gender allocation of non-white ethnicity. Alternatively, the police send a car around next week to find the whole family wiped out, and said perp “nowhere to be found”. Footage taken of them by neighbors - the police don’t want, as it was taken without the assailant’s permission, and is therefore not admissible in court.

FFS. Anyone know how I can get sponsorship to emmigrate?

The whole Western LAWYER is the spiecies that threatens the whole of mankind the most now.

It is the LAW that has failed - letting all the old evils rise up to be a threat to the general population again. We can’t even have an honest WAR to cull down that excess population who seem to be increasingly “mentally ill”, and yet quick enough to consider murdering a political opponent, whilst refusing to fight for their host country, nor the one they came from, hence ran away from as deserting cowards.

No lawer can order the general public to “just bare your breast, and let them insert the knife - IF you don’t want to convert”.
It doesn’t matter if you’re religious or not - just that you’re an “Infidel”.
It doesn’t matter if you’re Rich or Poor - because do you think they will be asking you for your political persuasion, and “calmly move onto the next house” should you say “Hey guys, I voted to let you lot in!” Nope.
Killing tends to be indiscrimiate, when it comes. Murderers are not usually “Assassins” with a clear target. That makes a common scumbag murder actually sound like a discliplined soldier. Don’t give them such a lofty definition!

Isn’t it strange that we’ve yet to see any public figures bumped off by these people… I remember in the 70’s and 80’s where a number of our Westminster crowd - were killed, wounded, or maimed by the IRA actions.
What was done about *that? - Nothing. Sinn Fein and the IRA should have been exterminated down to the last man - but no.
We let them off… And let them off. and when eventually they have any degree of power - they act to get rid of the now “minority” of us that want them gone.

No thanks.

Tommy Robinson isn’t trying to be a “Saint”, and has no chance in not being a “Sinner”. just like the rest of us.

Support him - because otherwise when some villain comes, now fully protected by the law… - there won’t be anyone else to help you.
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It is the LAW that I now suggest - is our greatest enemy of all.
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Has it really come to this? Shocking, shocking stuff. In the old days a burglar would just nick your video, now he heads straight to the kitchen, grabs a knife and forces you to convert to Islam. Dearie me, what’s the world coming to.

As for emigrating, either do it when you can afford it or don’t do it. You hinting that you want to be crowd-funded?

dexxy57:
As for emigrating, either do it when you can afford it or don’t do it. You hinting that you want to be crowd-funded?

Ironically that would have been much easier when we had freedom of movement between here and Australia/NZ.However that’s now considered as ‘racist’ and those countries are regarded as an Asian colony instead of a Brit one.

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
As for emigrating, either do it when you can afford it or don’t do it. You hinting that you want to be crowd-funded?

Ironically that would have been much easier when we had freedom of movement between here and Australia/NZ.However that’s now considered as ‘racist’ and those countries are regarded as an Asian colony instead of a Brit one.

My breath is bated…

Franglais:

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
As for emigrating, either do it when you can afford it or don’t do it. You hinting that you want to be crowd-funded?

Ironically that would have been much easier when we had freedom of movement between here and Australia/NZ.However that’s now considered as ‘racist’ and those countries are regarded as an Asian colony instead of a Brit one.

My breath is bated…

Meanwhile down under.Oh wait surely the similarities with TR’s issues and the establishment must be a coincidence.No one is allowed to upset America’s Saudi allies.If you want to understand who rules you.You must first realise who you can’t criticise.Having said that the APP make UKIP look like amateurs in taking no zb from anyone including Trump’s laughable pretence of draining the swamp in US politics while forging even closer ties with the Saudi savages.

protectionist.net/2019/02/26 … uger-case/

Franglais:

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
As for emigrating, either do it when you can afford it or don’t do it. You hinting that you want to be crowd-funded?

Ironically that would have been much easier when we had freedom of movement between here and Australia/NZ.However that’s now considered as ‘racist’ and those countries are regarded as an Asian colony instead of a Brit one.

My breath is bated…

Relax, unbate your breath, unless of course I missed it on the news that Australia/New Zealand are now Asian colonies. (Since when has Asia colonised?)
Australia and New Zealand have not been British colonies for a while.