Nick Clag…if you used to read Viz… 
I’d post some other stuff from Viz, but I’d probably get a bollocking for “dodging the autocensor” by having swear words in comic strip format, like the usual outpourings of Roger Mellie, Sid the Sexist, and Tariff Uckwit. 
Creating Divisions where there either were not any beforehand or were less “fragments” before than now - is the key to keeping the country “splitting its votes up” so no major party ever wins a majority government again. The future will be “Socialist Coalaition” (Labour,SNP,Greens) vs “Right Coalition” (Tories, UKIP) where the BNP and EDL split the far right vote enough so they don’t get to make any difference in any grand coalition of the Right at any point now, or in the future.
The thing is, - if Socialists end up being ghettoized (It doesn’t make any difference how much bigger Corbyn’s or Abbots majority gets…) then they eventually hit a brick wall of “Inner Cities” vs “Shires” with “Commuter Towns” sat as piggy-in-the middle.
Therefore I suggest that the future of political polls in this country - is literally “coming to a street near you” for the vast majority of us that don’t happen to live in Inner Cities, nor turning the sod in the shires neither.
Let’s just make sure we have an MP who represents US rather than some wider notion that leaves us all open to yet more imported “divisions” to come. 
It’s always the case that elections are decided in key marginals with ‘majority’ votes piling up for Labour in big cities and Tory in the shires.
The GE used to be won or lost in Peterborough, believe it or not. It was the ‘swing’ constituency to get a majority in the commons.
GasGas:
It’s always the case that elections are decided in key marginals with ‘majority’ votes piling up for Labour in big cities and Tory in the shires.The GE used to be won or lost in Peterborough, believe it or not. It was the ‘swing’ constituency to get a majority in the commons.
Wot’s a “Key Marginal” these days though?
Elections are “exciting” when big majorities are crushed. That’s what we stay up on election night to see happen, after all.
“Going with serve” results on the other hand, are NOT exciting.
At present, the betting market would suggest that at the next election, Labour are going to win a handful more seats, the Tories will lose double that, with the SNP and UKIP gaining about 20 seats apiece.
That - won’t change much. Corbyn won’t be resigning, as he didn’t lose any seats. May will still have the MOST seats - and might try and hang on like Merkel by this point.
Sturgeon and Batton - are also safe for the duration, having gained seats.
Thus, NO big scalps = BORING election, and NO changes forthcoming!
It is therefore a LANDSLIDE result that is needed.
Dozens of former big majorities turned over.
The last time that happened was 1997, where the public have spent five long years waiting for the first chance they got to vote out the Tories, who’d held on in 1992, only for Major to oversee the biggest number of house repossessions in history, crushing the Middle-Englanders into little Englanders as they are now.
These people might still vote - but their votes are not making a difference - yet.
Once voter apathy dries up (which signs are, - it is these days) any result can happen, with “upsets” galore, come the current set of shysters at Westminster, none of whom seem to represent the average working taxpayer any longer.
People are no longer afraid to vote for a minor party “because their vote won’t count”. It doesn’t count - if you don’t vote at all, so such voters have nothing to lose by voting for enough minor parties so we don’t get a majority anything in this country.
Looks like Mr Robinson is now totally vindicated…
How can anyone even consider chucking him back in jail - after 220 yonks have been dished out among these 20 likely lads?
Jamal Khashoggi.
The Saudis know how to deal with critical thinkers. Murder them.
That would never happen in Blighty.
Oh wait, didnt our own justice system send Tommy to prison full of moon howlers?
Winseer:
Looks like Mr Robinson is now totally vindicated…How can anyone even consider chucking him back in jail - after 220 yonks have been dished out among these 20 likely lads?
Huddersfield Asian ■■■ gang jailed for more than 200 years | Daily Mail Online
ah yes…another bunch of multi-cultural enrichers 
AndieHyde:
Jamal Khashoggi.
The Saudis know how to deal with critical thinkers. Murder them.
That would never happen in Blighty.Oh wait, didnt our own justice system send Tommy to prison full of moon howlers?
Someone knows what really happened with the late Dr David Kelly, another chap who upset the ruling establishment by going off script, a dangerous thing to do it would appear.
Juddian:
AndieHyde:
Jamal Khashoggi.
The Saudis know how to deal with critical thinkers. Murder them.
That would never happen in Blighty.Oh wait, didnt our own justice system send Tommy to prison full of moon howlers?
Someone knows what really happened with the late Dr David Kelly, another chap who upset the ruling establishment by going off script, a dangerous thing to do it would appear.
Ahh yes. Poor bloke clearly murdered by the deep state. So much for Labour having an “open people’s government”. !
What is it about poltiicians that make them promise the Earth to get elected, and then sell their very souls when they cannot get things done in office - without being lickcocks to the deep state all the time?
Even Trump has done it - by firing missiles at airfields in Syria. What did the deep state tell Trump? “Mr President - If you fire some missiles at Assad’s Ally Putin, then we’ll stop snapping at your heels” - so I suspect Trump shot at some empty ground, made sure Putin got all his people out of the area first, and then appeased the Deep State by “making a show for them”…
At least if no one got hurt - it is a poltiical move that could be considered as “Harmless”.
Not so the shooting down of MH17, most likely a Kiev piece of work, nor Salisbury - most likely a Kiev piece of work (possibly in cahoots with British Intelligence), nor even that most recent incident - the likely “murder” of Jamal Khashoggi - which smacks of Turkish skulduggery - to drive a wedge between Saudi-US relations of course… Erdogan was spitting blood at Trump - so kinda does have an axe to grind motive and all. 
What we masses believe is paramount from here on in… We who believe it - will meme it up, and if we don’t get sued - that is more fuel to the argument that “If they are not guilty of any crime here, then why are they not suing us for meming it?”
Juddian:
AndieHyde:
Jamal Khashoggi.
The Saudis know how to deal with critical thinkers. Murder them.
That would never happen in Blighty.Oh wait, didnt our own justice system send Tommy to prison full of moon howlers?
Someone knows what really happened with the late Dr David Kelly, another chap who upset the ruling establishment by going off script, a dangerous thing to do it would appear.
And don’t forget the guy found in a sports bag in the bath…
Winseer:
Juddian:
AndieHyde:
Jamal Khashoggi.
The Saudis know how to deal with critical thinkers. Murder them.
That would never happen in Blighty.Oh wait, didnt our own justice system send Tommy to prison full of moon howlers?
Someone knows what really happened with the late Dr David Kelly, another chap who upset the ruling establishment by going off script, a dangerous thing to do it would appear.
Ahh yes. Poor bloke clearly murdered by the deep state. So much for Labour having an “open people’s government”. !
What is it about poltiicians that make them promise the Earth to get elected, and then sell their very souls when they cannot get things done in office - without being lickcocks to the deep state all the time?
Even Trump has done it - by firing missiles at airfields in Syria. What did the deep state tell Trump? “Mr President - If you fire some missiles at Assad’s Ally Putin, then we’ll stop snapping at your heels” - so I suspect Trump shot at some empty ground, made sure Putin got all his people out of the area first, and then appeased the Deep State by “making a show for them”…
At least if no one got hurt - it is a poltiical move that could be considered as “Harmless”.Not so the shooting down of MH17, most likely a Kiev piece of work, nor Salisbury - most likely a Kiev piece of work (possibly in cahoots with British Intelligence), nor even that most recent incident - the likely “murder” of Jamal Khashoggi - which smacks of Turkish skulduggery - to drive a wedge between Saudi-US relations of course… Erdogan was spitting blood at Trump - so kinda does have an axe to grind motive and all.
Jamal Khashoggi death: Trump 'not satisfied' with Saudi account - BBC NewsWhat we masses believe is paramount from here on in… We who believe it - will meme it up, and if we don’t get sued - that is more fuel to the argument that “If they are not guilty of any crime here, then why are they not suing us for meming it?”
del trotter:
Winseer:
Juddian:
AndieHyde:
Jamal Khashoggi.
The Saudis know how to deal with critical thinkers. Murder them.
That would never happen in Blighty.Oh wait, didnt our own justice system send Tommy to prison full of moon howlers?
Someone knows what really happened with the late Dr David Kelly, another chap who upset the ruling establishment by going off script, a dangerous thing to do it would appear.
Ahh yes. Poor bloke clearly murdered by the deep state. So much for Labour having an “open people’s government”. !
What is it about poltiicians that make them promise the Earth to get elected, and then sell their very souls when they cannot get things done in office - without being lickcocks to the deep state all the time?
Even Trump has done it - by firing missiles at airfields in Syria. What did the deep state tell Trump? “Mr President - If you fire some missiles at Assad’s Ally Putin, then we’ll stop snapping at your heels” - so I suspect Trump shot at some empty ground, made sure Putin got all his people out of the area first, and then appeased the Deep State by “making a show for them”…
At least if no one got hurt - it is a poltiical move that could be considered as “Harmless”.Not so the shooting down of MH17, most likely a Kiev piece of work, nor Salisbury - most likely a Kiev piece of work (possibly in cahoots with British Intelligence), nor even that most recent incident - the likely “murder” of Jamal Khashoggi - which smacks of Turkish skulduggery - to drive a wedge between Saudi-US relations of course… Erdogan was spitting blood at Trump - so kinda does have an axe to grind motive and all.
Jamal Khashoggi death: Trump 'not satisfied' with Saudi account - BBC NewsWhat we masses believe is paramount from here on in… We who believe it - will meme it up, and if we don’t get sued - that is more fuel to the argument that “If they are not guilty of any crime here, then why are they not suing us for meming it?”
You… mean… This contraption doesn’t work? 
A quick update about the TR saga at the Old Bailey this morning, trial adjourned once again after TR’s lawyers requested that his case be referred back to and be prosecuted by the AG, it was going to be dealt with today by the Recorder of London Nicholas Hilliard QC, with a ‘friend of the Court’ Angus McCullough, a neutral expert of law advising the Judge but not briefed by the AG.
This court case will set extremely far reaching legal precedences now, whatever the outcome because no ‘Journalist’ has been jailed for contempt for over 70 years, even when they have deliberately breached reporting restrictions and a caused a mistrial and known criminals have walked away scot free. Check out google to find out which MSM outlets have been fined in the recent past, all the one’s who don’t report the truth and are very, very critical of TR now. This saga will drag on for TR for at least 2 more court appearances, one trial and one outcome hearing, but the more it drag’s on the more aware and awake people are becoming to the betrayal and suppression the ordinary working class in the forgotten majority are feeling!
More to come as TR is going to be reading a prepared statement outside court which the judge considered before accepting TR’s lawyers request for referral back to the AG, the legal team will be lobbying the AG to drop the case now.
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Dave Penn;
Winseer:
Looks like Mr Robinson is now totally vindicated…How can anyone even consider chucking him back in jail - after 220 yonks have been dished out among these 20 likely lads?
Huddersfield Asian ■■■ gang jailed for more than 200 years | Daily Mail Online
You do know, don’t you, that this was the trial that Stephen Tommy Yaxley-Lennon Robinson whateverhisname is today could have jeopardised by his ill-judged reportage?
The reporting restrictions were there because there was more than one trial in the case, and had earlier verdicts been published then the guys on trial later could have successfully argued that their chances of a fair trial had been destroyed…and the Crown might have had to let them walk?
YLR is promoting himself as a journalist…fair enough if that’s what he wants to do. Better than being a criminal. But he needs to acquaint himself with the law regarding live trials before he does any more ‘reporting’ of that nature.
BTW I agree that the decision to send him to prison as a criminal was fatally flawed. Contempt of court is a civil matter, and people are usually only detained for it for a short period to allow themselves to ‘cool off’. During that time they should be treated as a prisoner on remand, not a convict. It’s more usually dealt with by fines etc.
So no, he shouldn’t have been jailed, and I’m pleased that he’s been released.
GasGas:
Winseer:
Looks like Mr Robinson is now totally vindicated…How can anyone even consider chucking him back in jail - after 220 yonks have been dished out among these 20 likely lads?
Huddersfield Asian ■■■ gang jailed for more than 200 years | Daily Mail Online
You do know, don’t you, that this was the trial that Stephen Tommy Yaxley-Lennon Robinson whateverhisname is today could have jeopardised by his ill-judged reportage?
Well, he didn’t though - did he? That’s my point here!
The reporting restrictions were there because there was more than one trial in the case, and had earlier verdicts been published then the guys on trial later could have successfully argued that their chances of a fair trial had been destroyed…and the Crown might have had to let them walk?
YLR is promoting himself as a journalist…fair enough if that’s what he wants to do. Better than being a criminal. But he needs to acquaint himself with the law regarding live trials before he does any more ‘reporting’ of that nature. Reporting and the law itself - are now in flux, because of the advent of social media. “Reporting Restrictions” are no longer necessary for the issue of justice, and are now seen by the public (whom the law is supposed to serve first and foremost) as a hinderence of justice, and the perpetuation of lies. It is the MSM that are in contempt of today’s public, rather than any “voice crying in the wilderness” such as Tommy Robinson.
BTW I agree that the decision to send him to prison as a criminal was fatally flawed. Contempt of court is a civil matter, and people are usually only detained for it for a short period to allow themselves to ‘cool off’. During that time they should be treated as a prisoner on remand, not a convict. It’s more usually dealt with by fines etc. Robinson was jailed without being tried by a court of his peers. That is the main travesty of justice that happened to him “Jailed without being found guilty by a public jury”. It makes the court look no better than one in some fascist dictatorship state.
So no, he shouldn’t have been jailed, and I’m pleased that he’s been released.
Who made the initial complaint against him to land him in jail in the first place - time for a legal review perhaps?
I’d say the rise of Facebook, You Tube etc makes contempt of court all the more important…no one wants to undergo trial by public opinion rather than a jury of 12 who have heard all the evidence and legal argument.
I believe Robinson was arrested by the police for filming inside the court, just as anyone would be. And any journalist knows that’s a no-no right from the start.
Like I say, if he’s going to dabble in court reporting he needs to book himself a course where he can find out what he can and can’t do…just like the rest of us.
He was lucky in some ways that the judge over-reacted and gave him a manifestly illegal punishment this time.
There are two contempt offences. One is for failing to follow the direction of a court, and you can get 2 years for that as it’s a criminal offence.
The other is basically being disrespectful of the court, or publishing material subject to restrictions etc.
The judge appears to have muddled the two.
As Wikki says…“Contempt of court has a significant impact on journalism in the form of restrictions on court reporting which are set out in statute in the UK .”
OK, GasGas, weren’t you a lorry driver before becoming a ‘journalist’ ? Or am I getting you mixed up with someone else because quite a few ex driver’s are now trade magazine writers and call themselves ‘journalist’s’.
You need to read the transcript’s from the LCC trial to see what the CPS said on the Tues; after TR was arrested and unlawfully jailed, appeals by the defendant’s legal teams for a mistrial were lodged, heard and dismissed by the same Judge who had sent TR to jail only 4 days previously.
Now that all the child ■■■■■■’s in that trial have been convicted and given lengthy sentence’s it can be revealed that the Crown Prosecutor said that there ‘Was nothing in TR’s live stream that could of jeopardised the outcome of the trial’ and Judge Marson agreed and consequently dismissed all the appeals of the 10 on trial that day. Now, I don’t have to read the transcripts because I was actually there in the court and just like TR I knew that 30 people were involved in this trial and it was split into 3 trials because of the large number of defendants, and this was the 2nd of 3, I also knew the outcome of the first trial because I was there in court to see it happen but just like TR I didn’t make it known on social media because of the reporting restrictions in place at the time. Now I could call myself an ex driver because right at this moment my main income generating career isn’t driving, but because I attend court’s, research and write about the phenomenon and the rise of radical Islam and its undeniable links to the problems of child ■■■■ gang’s. So, do I call now still call myself an ex driver or a citizen ‘journalist’ and writer who has embraced new technology to report on the things that MSM ignores constantly and lies about. And just so you know there are still 10 of the initial accused who still haven’t been named yet, and that includes 2 female foollowers of the RoP, although they have been convicted but are also defendants in other trials in other parts of the Country.
Another bit of useful information that might be of assistance in giving you a much broader picture of this, unknown before in British Legal history odyssey, is that the majority of these convicted child ■■■■■■’s had been on bail for almost 2 years and not seen as a danger to children or the public, even though they all had previous convictions for violence, drug supply, fraud and ■■■■■■ assaults and some of them were already serving sentences for child ■■■■. It is almost 70 years since a ‘journalist’ was sent to jail for contempt, but TR was arrested, taken to a police station and then to court and sentenced all within 5 hours, without proper legal representation, without giving a plea of any kind, would you like to be treated in this way by our British legal system? I doubt it, but then again, you are only a transport ‘journalist’ and not a citizen journalist.
I’ve included a personal statement that was given to The Recorder of London, Justice Nicholas Hilliaird QC, today and that was one of the main reasons the case was referred back to the AG, because TR and his legal team wanted that to happen.
Don’t believe anything you read in the MSM today because what has been reproduced is total lies, there were easily 2,500 - 3,000 supporters there and at 0930 there was a counter protest with about 50 people from antifa and SUTR and at 1115 there was one lone soul with his factory produced placard. All TR’s bail conditions have been revoked and if the AG decides to pursue it any further it will take between 4 to 6 months for a new trial date to be set. If you need to confirm what I have written as a citizen ‘journalist’ then I suggest you look at Ruptly.tv on Youtube, they were doing a livestream of the whole thing and on having a quick glance at it it seems a pretty comprehensive and a true report of this morning’s events.
Right, the platform won’t let me upload the file because it is in html format, but here is the web address of the person who put it online, although in the Ruptly.tv vid on youtube TR does read out its whole content, andrewlawton.ca/planned-cont … -robinson/
PS. I do know that TR is not his real name and it’s not like it’s a big secret, and I also do know why the TR moniker was used and why it has stuck.
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Dave Penn;
Thanks Dave,
That’s interesting. However it remains that what TR was arrested for was filming in the court. And we all know that’s not allowed.
TR admitted it and deleted the footage that was shot. SFAIK he did enter a guilty plea. I agree with you that the sentence was disproportionate and wrong given the circumstances.
My main concern with TR is I feel he may being used as a puppet with surprising people pulling the strings.
Going back a few years…do you remember Scargill and the Libyan money for the miners, and how that panned out.
The guy who ‘drove the deal’ with the Libyans turned out to be not quite who he said he was…but not before Scargill had been utterly discredited over the matter.
You know the saying: Keep you friends close, but your enemies closer?
If I was TR, I wouldn’t trust some of those around me for a moment!
Thanks Dave Penn.