To our advantage

If the item below is true, more drivers will be occupied in queues. This will result in a greater demand for drivers and potentially higher wages.

"…drivers will be delayed at Longer vehicle checks at the UK border post-Brexit would lead to motorway tailbacks up to 29 miles long, research commissioned by the BBC has suggested.

Imperial College London found just two extra minutes on each vehicle check could more than triple the existing queues.

Villagers near the M20 motorway said the research was “alarming”.

The Treasury said it was seeking as “frictionless” trade as possible with the European Union after Brexit.

Personally I think there will be a rise in unaccompanied trailers coming over from the ferry rather than them being towed by various Eastern European, Spanish and Portugese units and things returning to how they used to be at the ports. Might be a good time to become an owner driver offering traction services.

I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same. :unamused:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

According to P & O 50% of what goes out through Dover is empty so unless British air needs to be customs cleared that is the queue halved then take off the transiting goods from Ireland travelling under TIR and the queue is now considerably shorter, however on the French side the majority of lorries are loaded so who is going to have the bigger hold ups? The UK or Europe?

robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same. :unamused:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

Robroy you failed to mention that planes will fall from the sky and all first born children will have to be slain [emoji1303]

robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same. :unamused:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

How very true!!

robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same. :unamused:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

^^^^^ This +2

Surely the post-Brexit prophecies of a bountiful playground with no rules and lavish riches are also by definition speculation and complete ■■■■■■■■?

robroy:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

It is all speculation, and as long as the negotiations are continuing it always will be.

Having said that, I’m sceptical about whether or not we will escape the EU :frowning:

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robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

Did you see the latest on the BBC News website posted by their business editor? Apparently a no deal Brexit is going to be a threat to sandwiches, a story so newsworthy it made their main page I kid you not.

bbc.co.uk/news/business-44960293

robroy:
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types

Yep
If you listen to your average anti-Brexit campaigner the sky will burn red, the rivers will run with blood and the beast shall walk the earth once more if the UK isnt in the EU

robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same. :unamused:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

It seemed there was a risk from old programmes at Y2K, so the programmers took notice of the warnings and fixed the problem. That’s why no planes dropped out the sky.

Imagine a truck heading for a cliff edge. There is a clear danger.
The driver can stop or change direction to avoid disaster. If he does his job all is ok. That doesn’t mean that the cliff edge was never there.

A month ago you said England had a chance of winning the World Cup. They didn’t. Thst doesn’t mean they never had a chance.

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Mazzer2:
According to P & O 50% of what goes out through Dover is empty so unless British air needs to be customs cleared that is the queue halved then take off the transiting goods from Ireland travelling under TIR and the queue is now considerably shorter, however on the French side the majority of lorries are loaded so who is going to have the bigger hold ups? The UK or Europe?

No matter where the queues are they cost money. Be it customs officials whose wages need paying, trucks and drivers idle, or goods uselessly sat instead of being on a JIT delivery, it costs.
And eventually it is each and evety one of us who will pay at the supermarket checkout as it always is.

There is a bilateral agreement currently between UK/France that our customs and immigration operate in Calais etc.
If there are bigger delay will that continue?

Edit. Tis us who pays for delays on imports. If delays and costs make exports more expensive for our customers that can mean they go elsewhere for their goods.

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Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?

If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.

So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?

Some choice eh?
Bigger truck park in Kent for the French customs or more immigrants?

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Franglais:
Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?

If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.

So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?

Some choice eh?
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But being out of the EU rules means that they can be put straight back on the ferry and dumped back in France.

Franglais:

robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types. :unamused: …a classic case of sour grapes.

It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same. :unamused:
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.

It seemed there was a risk from old programmes at Y2K, so the programmers took notice of the warnings and fixed the problem. That’s why no planes dropped out the sky.

Imagine a truck heading for a cliff edge. There is a clear danger.
The driver can stop or change direction to avoid disaster. If he does his job all is ok. That doesn’t mean that the cliff edge was never there.

A month ago you said England had a chance of winning the World Cup. They didn’t. Thst doesn’t mean they never had a chance.

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My cousin was heavily involved in the Y2K bug for Legal and General and headed up one of their compliance teams for Y2K he said he would have happily flew on a plane over the millennium and that in the main it was a lot of fuss about nothing, however it made him and his team ridiculous amounts of money so he was quite happy to play along with it

Mazzer2:

Franglais:
Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?

If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.

So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?

Some choice eh?
Bigger truck park in Kent for the French customs or more immigrants? from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk

But being out of the EU rules means that they can be put straight back on the ferry and dumped back in France.

I think I read something about part of the reason for doing the checks in Calais was to prevent the ferry companies from being fined for letting them in. If that is the case fine them and then send them home

Post-Brexit?

We will go back to the 1990’s with regards to Border Checks.
We will eventually go back to the 1990’s regarding the member states breaking away after Britain leaves, one by one - until it is just the big boys left, trying to now “put in” for everyone else.
The “Hard Border” in Northern Ireland can return, - and it would be exactly the same as the … 1990’s again! Who cares if we tear Tony Blair’s so-called “Legacy” up into little tiny bit? :smiling_imp:

The pound will float. It has already done quite well actually, bearing in mind that the banking system Europe-wide (including our own Bank of England) are currently under orders to "stockpile enormous amounts of Euros as “reserve currency”. I estimate the Bank of England alone - is sitting on over a trillion in Euro currency. Now, it doesn’t take a genius to know in advance what would happen if the BoE DUMPED that lot all at once, which in theory is possible the moment the UK is able to make it’s own laws again…

A Eurocurrency CRASH outright, with the EU no longer being able to afford our stuff they’ve said they will be boycotting anyways, and the UK beign able to now buy a whole lot more of the EU’s food, Motors, and Energy - for a lot less than before. Let’s see the EU refuse to sell us that, and really cut off their noses to spite their faces!

Meanwhile, at the moment of “leaving” - there will likely be one last push by the Pro-EU lobby to “Punish” the British Pound currency on the open markets - by heavily selling Pounds for Euros. Just right for a newly installed Governor of the Bank of England to sell our HUGE Euro position into - at the very top of the market! This would both underpin the pound, AND rake us a serious profit, AND improve our balance of payments no end!
There’s the “Brexit Dividend” and a scrapped Foreign Aid budget in the background as “secondary magic money trees” as well there of course.
All we have to do is “stop paying”. There’s nothing really to “work hard, going out to get” here. Just believe we can put one foot in front of the other, and walk away, payments walking away with us.

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Have a bit of faith people…

If the EU has to be destroyed in order for the UK to break free, then BREAK it we will. Break it we must.

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Winseer you may be as mad as a part boiled lobster but you make a convincing argument monetarily re Brexit, you certainly seem to at least KNOW what you’re talking about. More of them posts please.

the maoster:
Winseer you may be as mad as a part boiled lobster but you make a convincing argument monetarily re Brexit, you certainly seem to at least KNOW what you’re talking about. More of them posts please.

gotta agree with you maoster, and surprisingly I understood every word winseer wrote. as he say’s if that’s the way it’s got to be so be it. well said that man. :slight_smile: