The report produced by Imperial College London begs the question, how much faith do we have in highly educated people working in one of the most prestigious universities in the world.
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
robroy:
I don’t believe anything that these ‘remoaners’ say about Brexit.
We’re going to be suffering famine, pestilence and plagues of locusts according to these types.…a classic case of sour grapes.
It reminds me of the horror stories of the ‘Millenium bug’ where we were all going to suffer and life as we know it would never be the same.
All this post Brexit stuff is complete ■■■■■■■■ I reckon, it’s all just speculation, nothing else.It seemed there was a risk from old programmes at Y2K, so the programmers took notice of the warnings and fixed the problem. That’s why no planes dropped out the sky.
Imagine a truck heading for a cliff edge. There is a clear danger.
The driver can stop or change direction to avoid disaster. If he does his job all is ok. That doesn’t mean that the cliff edge was never there.A month ago you said England had a chance of winning the World Cup. They didn’t. Thst doesn’t mean they never had a chance.
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
My cousin was heavily involved in the Y2K bug for Legal and General and headed up one of their compliance teams for Y2K he said he would have happily flew on a plane over the millennium and that in the main it was a lot of fuss about nothing, however it made him and his team ridiculous amounts of money so he was quite happy to play along with it
How did they know most of it was nonsense?
By ignoring it and waving arms about?
Or by looking, checking and fixing any glitches?
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.
So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?
Some choice eh?
Bigger truck park in Kent for the French customs or more immigrants? from my GT-S7275R using TapatalkBut being out of the EU rules means that they can be put straight back on the ferry and dumped back in France.
Eu may not apply. Wider international ones still will apply.
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
kcrussell25:
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.
So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?
Some choice eh?
Bigger truck park in Kent for the French customs or more immigrants? from my GT-S7275R using TapatalkBut being out of the EU rules means that they can be put straight back on the ferry and dumped back in France.
I think I read something about part of the reason for doing the checks in Calais was to prevent the ferry companies from being fined for letting them in. If that is the case fine them and then send them home
Fine ferry company?
How will they recup losses?
Possible increase fares?
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Franglais:
kcrussell25:
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.
So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?
Some choice eh?
Bigger truck park in Kent for the French customs or more immigrants? from my GT-S7275R using TapatalkBut being out of the EU rules means that they can be put straight back on the ferry and dumped back in France.
I think I read something about part of the reason for doing the checks in Calais was to prevent the ferry companies from being fined for letting them in. If that is the case fine them and then send them home
Fine ferry company?
How will they recup losses?
Possible increase fares?Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Do you think the government would care that it costs us more to go away on holiday?
I could be wrong but it sounds familiar. I think the concern was the way trucks are fined in this country now would apply to the ferry companies.
If it got to much I would forget fare increases and expect them just to say they are not sailing 
My cousin was heavily involved in the Y2K bug for Legal and General and headed up one of their compliance teams for Y2K he said he would have happily flew on a plane over the millennium and that in the main it was a lot of fuss about nothing, however it made him and his team ridiculous amounts of money so he was quite happy to play along with it
[/quote]
How did they know most of it was nonsense?
By ignoring it and waving arms about?
Or by looking, checking and fixing any glitches?
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
[/quote]
He knew because he had an in depth knowledge of the subject and as with all things doom and gloom the doomsayers generally are not the best informed yet know that a good headline can soon be built up to create a doomsday scenario as I said it earned him a ridiculous amount of money for doing very little yes they did run checks but soon found that there would be no problem, however he had been tasked in 1996 with solving the problem and saw no reason to finishing much before the 2000 deadline he was on somewhere in the region of 10k a month so was hardly going to say it was all sorted by 1997 when all the hype said the world was going to end on 31 Jan 1999 his salary doubled when he was tasked with the Y2K bug “problem”. Would you have told L & G that they had no foreseeable problems after a few months or milked it for all it was worth?
Franglais:
kcrussell25:
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
Going on from my last post. Since UK border and customs work in Calais and at the Tunnel and French officials are in Dover and Folkestone any delays caused by French custom will result in queues in the UK?
So to avoid this will there be a reason to dump the agreement and repatriate our borders to our own shores?If so the UK immigration will no longer be in Calais but in Dover and all of the clandestine immigrants will now be hooked out the trailer on UK soil not in France.
So will there be an increase in asylum seekers registering here?
Some choice eh?
Bigger truck park in Kent for the French customs or more immigrants? from my GT-S7275R using TapatalkBut being out of the EU rules means that they can be put straight back on the ferry and dumped back in France.
I think I read something about part of the reason for doing the checks in Calais was to prevent the ferry companies from being fined for letting them in. If that is the case fine them and then send them home
Fine ferry company?
How will they recup losses?
Possible increase fares?Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Or possibly by securing their ships and properly checking for illegals before it sails.
And now you are going to say that would cost us more money… And I’ll get there first by agreeing. However decent security at an airport also costs money and it doesn’t put me off going on holiday. Frankly, I’d rather have more secure borders and pay a bit more to go on the ferry than the current disgrace which means ports are the easiest way to bring both people and drugs/weapons into the country.
Optimum:
The report produced by Imperial College London begs the question, how much faith do we have in highly educated people working in one of the most prestigious universities in the world.
Regardless of your position on Brexit or any other subject, before you take any press release of the contents of a report at face value, you should get answers to a few questions.
A) who funded the report? They’re rarely done for pure academic reasons.
B) what is the agenda of those publishing extracts from the report?
C) try and see the original un-edited version and any raw statistical data. You’d be amazed how much data is manipulated to get the answer required by those publishing it.
Mazzer2:
My cousin was heavily involved in the Y2K bug for Legal and General and headed up one of their compliance teams for Y2K he said he would have happily flew on a plane over the millennium and that in the main it was a lot of fuss about nothing, however it made him and his team ridiculous amounts of money so he was quite happy to play along with it
How did they know most of it was nonsense?
By ignoring it and waving arms about?
Or by looking, checking and fixing any glitches?
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
[/quote]
He knew because he had an in depth knowledge of the subject and as with all things doom and gloom the doomsayers generally are not the best informed yet know that a good headline can soon be built up to create a doomsday scenario as I said it earned him a ridiculous amount of money for doing very little yes they did run checks but soon found that there would be no problem, however he had been tasked in 1996 with solving the problem and saw no reason to finishing much before the 2000 deadline he was on somewhere in the region of 10k a month so was hardly going to say it was all sorted by 1997 when all the hype said the world was going to end on 31 Jan 1999 his salary doubled when he was tasked with the Y2K bug “problem”. Would you have told L & G that they had no foreseeable problems after a few months or milked it for all it was worth?
[/quote]
I don’t think I’m making my point too well here (again! you may say).
Y2K was pointed up as a potential problem. It was investigated by experts, any glitches fixed and there were no problems.
It would have been foolish to assume that “it’ll all work out, because it always does”.
Spending money to look for problems is not a waste of money, even if problems aren’t found. Rattle in your engine? Spend an hour getting a mechanic to listen to it is wise. Even if he says there is no problem it’s still a sensible action.
Those politicians who wave their arms around and ignore concerns are not being sensible or acting in the interests of the country.
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
Franglais:
Mazzer2:
My cousin was heavily involved in the Y2K bug for Legal and General and headed up one of their compliance teams for Y2K he said he would have happily flew on a plane over the millennium and that in the main it was a lot of fuss about nothing, however it made him and his team ridiculous amounts of money so he was quite happy to play along with itHow did they know most of it was nonsense?
By ignoring it and waving arms about?
Or by looking, checking and fixing any glitches?Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
He knew because he had an in depth knowledge of the subject and as with all things doom and gloom the doomsayers generally are not the best informed yet know that a good headline can soon be built up to create a doomsday scenario as I said it earned him a ridiculous amount of money for doing very little yes they did run checks but soon found that there would be no problem, however he had been tasked in 1996 with solving the problem and saw no reason to finishing much before the 2000 deadline he was on somewhere in the region of 10k a month so was hardly going to say it was all sorted by 1997 when all the hype said the world was going to end on 31 Jan 1999 his salary doubled when he was tasked with the Y2K bug “problem”. Would you have told L & G that they had no foreseeable problems after a few months or milked it for all it was worth?
[/quote]
I don’t think I’m making my point too well here (again! you may say).
Y2K was pointed up as a potential problem. It was investigated by experts, any glitches fixed and there were no problems.
It would have been foolish to assume that “it’ll all work out, because it always does”.
Spending money to look for problems is not a waste of money, even if problems aren’t found. Rattle in your engine? Spend an hour getting a mechanic to listen to it is wise. Even if he says there is no problem it’s still a sensible action.
Those politicians who wave their arms around and ignore concerns are not being sensible or acting in the interests of the country.
Sent from my GT-S7275R using Tapatalk
[/quote]
I understand your point and to take you up on your rattle in the engine theme over here in Ireland if you ring the boss and say I’ve a rattle in the engine 9 times out of 10 his answer will be ok lets see where this goes and let it develop, rather than spend x amount of £’s on diagnostics, meaning it may well be a major problem or it may be nothing, hope this makes some sort of sense but it is a Friday night and I’ve just got through 2 bottles of your finest red so a bit of leeway
2 bottles?
Amateur
steviespain:
2 bottles?
Amateur
lol the night is young yet
Mazzer2:
steviespain:
2 bottles?
Amateur
lol the night is young yet
Are we in the same time zone? Ireland, yes? Me-London. Near enough. hic Bollox just finished me wodka!
Wouldn’t it be nice to drive into a layby, MSA, and actually have somewhere to park where you find fellow truckers all speaking English and ONLY that variety? Those migrants already here and working - are welcome to stay. Those not of the EU, not here to work, and no-speke English - should be kept out by a firmer border come Brexit.
It can’t be that difficult to put the customs back like we used to view as “part of the holiday experience - green and red channel” as recently as 20 years ago.
We’re importing too many criminals, workshy, and health tourists.
The drop in the pound has slowed the incoming rate somewhat - but only among the LEGAL migrants from other EU countries that no longer see Britain as this land of work, milk, and honey - especially if like Auf Wiedersehen Pet - “They are sending it back to the wife”
Wouldn’t it be nice to see wages rise sharply, because there is suddenly a dearth of foreign trucks on our roads all of a sudden?
Spaces beneath motorway bridges for the first time in years…
No stinky smells as you alight your cab at the next Motorway Service Area you can actually get into to park your truck…
“To our advantage” - indeed!