windrush:
An ex Leedale motor will be used to grafting hard Nathan, I bet when you clock on in the mornings it will have already fired itself up and be champing at the bit to get a day and a half’s work done before lunch! Quite a shock coming to it now with you knocking off mid afternoon.Pete.
When I used to do flour up your way Pete I used to see them about. I bet a 420 under the engine hump is appreciated in your neck of the woods. 
Quick question which would you go for
All 8 wheelers, similar hp, similar bodies
Brand new
Daf 85 @ £63k
Iveco @ £59k
Hino @ £68k a 2012 though not registered
or a Scania 2010/11 with 180,000kms @ £63k ish
and why ?
Muckspreader:
Quick question which would you go for
All 8 wheelers, similar hp, similar bodies
Brand new
Daf 85 @ £63k
Iveco @ £59k
Hino @ £68k a 2012 though not registeredor a Scania 2010/11 with 180,000kms @ £63k ish
and why ?
I’d go for the Scania. Although the price is obviously negotiable !
Where I am, Keltruck give the best after sales service of all the dealers, it’s not about choosing Scania, it’s about choosing Keltruck.
The initial purchase price of the truck is irrelevant on its own, it’s all about the TCO.
Muckspreader:
Quick question which would you go for
All 8 wheelers, similar hp, similar bodies
Brand new
Daf 85 @ £63k
Iveco @ £59k
Hino @ £68k a 2012 though not registeredor a Scania 2010/11 with 180,000kms @ £63k ish
and why ?
Can I spec the scania with a decent retarder?
Of all of those I’d choose the Iveco. Scanias don’t stop. DAFs don’t go and Hinos are ■■■■■■■ awful.
The answer to all your 8 wheeler tipper requirements is a Volvo FM
Muckaway:
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Going away today to be resprayed into a customers’ colours.
Was this the one that’s been on ebay for ages
Tipper Tom:
Muckspreader:
Quick question which would you go for
All 8 wheelers, similar hp, similar bodies
Brand new
Daf 85 @ £63k
Iveco @ £59k
Hino @ £68k a 2012 though not registeredor a Scania 2010/11 with 180,000kms @ £63k ish
and why ?
Can I spec the scania with a decent retarder?
Of all of those I’d choose the Iveco. Scanias don’t stop. DAFs don’t go and Hinos are [zb] awful.
dont get an auto one though 
Don’t get an auto anything there a ■■■■ in ■■■.
Manual is the way forward. If you can be ■■■■■■ to change gear you’d be best off as a till tart
Tipper Tom:
Can I spec the scania with a decent retarder? ** you mean any of us forum membersOf all of those I’d choose the Iveco. Scanias don’t stop. DAFs don’t go and Hinos are [zb] awful.
The answer to all your 8 wheeler tipper requirements is a Volvo FM
Your the only person I’ve ever heard recommend Volvo.
As for gearbox yep manual for us, as for dealer back up, we have Scania, Volvo, Renault, Man, Daf & Iveco within 10 miles,
In theory I agree with Chas, but when you actually sit down & work the figures out,
Our mileage will be mega low certainly in the first year, therefore no intention of taking R&M contract
Iveco talk the talk, the Iveco is euro 6 so reduced tax, it will never go anywhere near London.
Daf is Euro 6, it’s not actually the 85 it’s the equivalent, the cf
Hino euro 5
The Daf comes in almost any colour, the Iveco is white or £2500
Existing truck is yellow = poop wagon
Just bought 2nd truck = poop wagon very ugly dennis in white, IT WAS DIRT CHEAP
Looking at the tipper for the summer (I plan ahead) just bought a Thomson body & crane off a 1 year old write off
I’m pretty sure it’ll be a new truck so not a Scania, nor a Man though I really like them internally & externally they don’t do well on low mileage.
Chewyboy:
Muckaway:
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Going away today to be resprayed into a customers’ colours.Was this the one that’s been on ebay for ages
I don’t know mate, boss bought a pair of them. The one in the photo was immaculate inside, but none of the buttons on the steering wheel are working at the moment. A few on Earthline are like that; drivers told me they couldn’t use cc or find out their mpg.
More than a couple of opinions would have been nice.
My boss would go for Daf, simply as he said on Friday “parts are delivered quick” and he rates the service at RP Cherry at Abingdon. He couldn’t get any Dafs as good as the Scanias he’s just bought.
People slate Iveco but Clancy Docwra swear by them for their grab tipper fleet.
Muckaway:
My boss would go for Daf, simply as he said on Friday “parts are delivered quick” and he rates the service at RP Cherry at Abingdon. He couldn’t get any Dafs as good as the Scanias he’s just bought.
Cherrys have always been fantastic on any call out i ve had dealings with
Muckaway:
People slate Iveco but Clancy Docwra swear by them for their grab tipper fleet.
trust me its not because they are good , they know how to fix them ,although they have 6 ,8 wheel dafs 58 plates and these have been terrible for reliability
Wow, I thought someone would be able to convince me one would be so much better than the others.
I didn’t ask for prices for Merc, Renault because I just don’t like them.
Volvo I hear only breakdown stories
Currently no one has suggested the Hino’s
Scania’s are just too expensive new, almost 50% more, a daycab chassis is just over 100
Iveco no one has actually said anything negative about them (they are ugly mind)
MPG is reasonable as long as you keep on top of the electronic programming.
The new Daf there isn’t much data as it’s a new engine, previous Daf’s usually return reasonable mpg if driven steady.
Muckaway:
People slate Iveco but Clancy Docwra swear by them for their grab tipper fleet.
yeah and they also swear by HMF cranes(awful things) for their grab fleet.the reason they buy HMF is because they are much cheaper than palfinger-epsillon cranes.(palfinger epsillon are the best you can get).
perhaps they buy ivecos because they are also much cheaper than the best tool for the job?
Muckspreader:
Currently no one has suggested the Hino’s
there’s a very good reason for that…
So Andrew s what the best tool for the job then ?
The crane I bought is a epsilon, no mention of palfinger and no bucket, so as you seem to know a little bit about grabs which bucket should I go for and any idea how much they are ?
The crane is no more than 18 months old how much is it worth ?
and same age Thompson 15 cube steel body with subframe value ?
SH-07:
I’d stick with the older Scania. I’ve been told Mitchell’s wagons have been worked hard basically abused so that’s why they shift them after 2-3 years, if your gaffer can fix the lil niggles on the older Scania then you’re laughing..
mitchells are local to me and my old boss knew brendan mitchell very well.i really dont see that bpm’s scania’s have been “abused” at all.working a lorry hard doesnt mean its been abused ffs.
i have to say its not a firm i would work for because they dont pay that well,but all their kit is top notch and they run legal,and are a pretty big firm with their own transfer stations,recycled aggregate washing plant,readymix and quarry,so they are’nt running motors on a shoestring budget.
I’d hate to have the responsibility of choosing which truck to go with, either new or especially 2nd hand. It’s a mahoosive investment for any Co’ to make & it can all easily go ■■■■ up.
There’s an old phrase in business “no one ever got sacked for buying IBM”.
Easiest thing to do is to look around at your competitors & choose the popular choice. Where I look around Scania is by far the most popular choice for muck shifting & I really do think this has a lot to do with Keltruck.
Although I was an administrator, my bias & talents are geared towards sales. I could sell Scanias, even if they are +50% more than a competitor. It’s ALL about the TCO.