my first job tomorrow is to collect a trailer from toddington services because the owner driver has had his truck repossessed today and the bailiffs have taken it off him and left the trailer there,they followed him until he pulled in for a break then blocked him in to serve the papers,its going to get alot worse in the uk in the next few months and years just look at the big companys going under and laying off staff.my advice save every penny you can while you still have a job because its going to get bad.
With tactics like that i bet there is a few punchups!
Who is liable for the parking payment 
Hmmmmm thats a ■■■■■■■ that is!!! Its gettin tough out there tbf…
Suedehead:
Who is liable for the parking payment
There won’t be one. The registration will have been recorded in and out, so as long as this was done within the allocated time, no payment needs to be made.
who owns the trl and the goods in it?
just a thought.
if any of you worked for the subby, and the bailiffs did something like this to you.
what would you do?
limeyphil:
just a thought.
if any of you worked for the subby, and the bailiffs did something like this to you.
what would you do?
I’m not certain exactly, but i do know i wouldn’t be around long enough for them to take the keys off me. Or at least i hope i wouldn’t.
limeyphil:
just a thought.
if any of you worked for the subby, and the bailiffs did something like this to you.
what would you do?
Take my gear out and ask for a lift home.
I don’t think I could be a bailiff, but I did once work with them for a short while transporting repossessed cars & vans, I found that while most of 'em actually enjoy the job, they’re not the total & utter bar stools they’re made out to be.
Sounds to me like this (ex) owner driver has managed himself into a position where he’s now lost his means of earning the money to support himself, his dependents & also to pay his creditors.
Repossession is the last straw pulled out of a very large bale !
If they followed him into an MSA while he’s pulling a trailer, then he’s gone well past the lengthy process of negotiating with his creditors & well past the opportunity of surrendering the vehicle voluntarily.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for him?
Is this supposed to be an indication of the state of our economy?
I used to help seize 5+ vehicles a week when times were good & I never felt sorry for one of 'em.
Businesses pay rent four times a year on “Quarter-days”, the next one is due on January 1st 2013 and my guess is that a lot of businesses are going to go “pop” when they have their worst Christmas trading figures ever and decide not to renew for January, February and March 2013.
Make no mistake, it’s going to get a lot worse.
I do reposessions in my game but don’t like to talk about it. There’s irony for you! 
Conor:
limeyphil:
just a thought.
if any of you worked for the subby, and the bailiffs did something like this to you.
what would you do?Take my gear out and ask for a lift home.
a lift off the bailiffs? 
come on, they are the scum of the earth. no chance of getting anything off them.
i might be tempted to slip off the clutch and trash the van.
i know, i know, only women are allowed to use that one.
The biggest amount of failures will be new start up concerns who have failed to do their figures correctly , most will fail in the first year. Sad but true.
Harry Monk:
Businesses pay rent four times a year on “Quarter-days”, the next one is due on January 1st 2013 and my guess is that a lot of businesses are going to go “pop” when they have their worst Christmas trading figures ever and decide not to renew for January, February and March 2013.Make no mistake, it’s going to get a lot worse.
This is true but mostly applicable to retail business’s, either on the High St or the big sheds on retail parks.
Comet has just gone breast up, it might surprise Joe Bloggs that it happened in the run up to the very lucrative Xmas period, but the financial world knew it was doomed to failure as soon as the last owners took it on.
Unless it will hit you personally in your own pocket, there is little point in second guessing who will be next, but I predict the next big one will be a home furniture related Co’ !
I’m a silent partner in a Co’ that specialises in helping garment manufacturers to shut down in the UK & move the plant & equipment out to SE Asia. Over the last 20yrs we’ve moved 1000’s of tons of textile processing machinery out of the UK so fashion items can be made out there & then shipped back to us.
Just lately, the phones been ringing for Co’s wanting to bring that very same machinery back to the UK !
It’s not getting worse, it’s changing. It might be getting worse for some, but for me the future looks Rosy 
Easter-Star:
The biggest amount of failures will be new start up concerns who have failed to do their figures correctly , most will fail in the first year. Sad but true.
But on the other hand, if you can start up and maintain a business in the current climate things are promising for when the climate turns to good.
B1 GGK:
But on the other hand, if you can start up and maintain a business in the current climate things are promising for when the climate turns to good.
Exactly.
B1 GGK:
Easter-Star:
The biggest amount of failures will be new start up concerns who have failed to do their figures correctly , most will fail in the first year. Sad but true.But on the other hand, if you can start up and maintain a business in the current climate things are promising for when the climate turns to good.
It is often said that the best time to start a business is during a recession, I disagree.
The best time to start a business will always be ASAP.
It’s true that if a business can survive being started during a recession, when times get better it will thrive.
But a business can just as easily fail by being too successful !
I’ll give you some cause for thought : Harry Monk buys a lorry & starts out on his own account, he’s so damned good at the job that within 5yrs Harry Monk has 35 lorries on the road. Harry Monk’s sat his desk with an intray that touches the ceiling of his posh office, 5 lines on hold & 2x secretaries to do his typing !
Is Harry Monk a good truck driver or is Harry Monk a good accountant?
All Harry ever wanted to do, was to drive a truck & not drive it for an ■■■■■■■■. Nowadays, Harry cannot possibly spare the time to get behind a wheel, he has to meet with the bank manager at 9, the tax man at 11, there’s 5 people waiting in reception & still, that intray reaches the ceiling !
bigvern1:
I do reposessions in my game but don’t like to talk about it. There’s irony for you!
No, if I did repossessions I wouldn’t want to talk about it either.
Chas:
I don’t think I could be a bailiff, but I did once work with them for a short while transporting repossessed cars & vans, I found that while most of 'em actually enjoy the job, they’re not the total & utter bar stools they’re made out to be.Sounds to me like this (ex) owner driver has managed himself into a position where he’s now lost his means of earning the money to support himself, his dependents & also to pay his creditors.
Repossession is the last straw pulled out of a very large bale !
If they followed him into an MSA while he’s pulling a trailer, then he’s gone well past the lengthy process of negotiating with his creditors & well past the opportunity of surrendering the vehicle voluntarily.
Are we supposed to feel sorry for him?
Is this supposed to be an indication of the state of our economy?
I used to help seize 5+ vehicles a week when times were good & I never felt sorry for one of 'em.
I’d say that no one should enjoy the job of ruining someone’s life.
For starters, who says that the “Owner Driver” doesn’t actually own the tractor, rather than be buying it on tick?
That is, until he defaulted some credit cards, and the tossers who say it’s illegal not to repay unsecured debt manage to get a court order that allows them to seize an asset that had nothing whatsoever to do with the prior loan?
Bailiffs can only be appointed by a court. Repo staff are therefore fraudsters if they are NOT appointed by the court, but still pretend to be court appointed bailiffs.
FIght on the beaches. Refuse to co-operate with any debt collectors that are not official court-appointed bayliffs. They are allowed to get away with it if they have achieved “peaceful entry” - that is to say, they’ve nicked it off you without you putting up a fight.
If someone pushed past you as you were entering your front door, and starting nicking stuff from your house, and they couldn’t present court credentials (NOT “mickey mouse paperwork”) would YOU thump them around a bit, or just say “Ok guys, nick it all. I have no rights to it, because you’ve said I don’t, and I’ve not the guts to stop you, because I’m a law abiding citizen who’s about to be crushed into the ground by fraudsters, the law says are legal, whereas I as a pleb am not.”
Get a backbone, and fight back! Debt is the enemy. Debt pushers are like drug pushers. Debt collectors are like mafia henchmen. 
If the guy in question had his truck in hock in the first place, then he was never an owner driver in the first place was he?
I feel sorry for those who’ve become victims of “toxic debt” elsewhere in their lives. 