WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
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If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
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Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.
Franglais:
WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
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If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
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Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.
I think you’ll find people claiming that are following the Carryfast Doctrine
switchlogic:
Franglais:
WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
.
If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
.
.
Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.I think you’ll find people claiming that are following the Carryfast Doctrine
It’s not me who’s saying that skin colour matters.
Remind us who is it who’s saying that it does here you know the letters B and M in BLM.
Next you’ll be saying that Mugabe and Mandela weren’t running a Communist backed coup based on exactly the same racial agenda to create a typical Bolshevik army of useful idiots.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Franglais:
WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
.
If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
.
.
Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.I think you’ll find people claiming that are following the Carryfast Doctrine
It’s not me who’s saying that skin colour matters.
Remind us who is it who’s saying that it does here you know the letters B and M in BLM.
Next you’ll be saying that Mugabe and Mandela weren’t running a Communist backed coup based on exactly the same racial agenda to create a typical Bolshevik army of useful idiots.
Brilliant, been missing these comical posts of yours that shoot all over place in all sorts of random directions. Next you’ll be saying that General Tito wasn’t in league with Martin Luther King in backing a lesbian backed coup in Mongolia in the Middle Ages.
You’vea very strange mind
Got to go, a herd of wilderbeast are sweeping majestically across my drive.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Franglais:
WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
.
If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
.
.
Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.I think you’ll find people claiming that are following the Carryfast Doctrine
It’s not me who’s saying that skin colour matters.
Remind us who is it who’s saying that it does here you know the letters B and M in BLM.
Next you’ll be saying that Mugabe and Mandela weren’t running a Communist backed coup based on exactly the same racial agenda to create a typical Bolshevik army of useful idiots.
Doesn’t matter who says what about skin colour. The stats show repeatedly that black people, and other ethnic groups have different outcomes in similar situstions to white people.
BLM is not about the murder of one man, although that was the catalyst for recent protests. But It is about the institutional racism thst is prevalent through most of our society. Even if try not to be racist, even if we think we aren’t racist, there is evidence of bias all over the place.
Send in a job application: one from John Smith will do better than an identical one from Jane Smith, both will do better than one from Achmed Khan.
Classical instrument players at auditions: white players were marked higher, when in person. When playing behind a screen, their advantage dropped.
No one is saying all racism is deliberate, but again and again it is shown to exist.
It isn’t the only form of discrimination or unfairness, but that is no reason to ignore it or do nothing.
“‘Why should I support violence?’ Busting myths on taking a knee – The Athletic” theathletic.co.uk/2244447/2021/ … rxism-blm/
Franglais:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Franglais:
WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
.
If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
.
.
Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.I think you’ll find people claiming that are following the Carryfast Doctrine
It’s not me who’s saying that skin colour matters.
Remind us who is it who’s saying that it does here you know the letters B and M in BLM.
Next you’ll be saying that Mugabe and Mandela weren’t running a Communist backed coup based on exactly the same racial agenda to create a typical Bolshevik army of useful idiots.Doesn’t matter who says what about skin colour. The stats show repeatedly that black people, and other ethnic groups have different outcomes in similar situstions to white people.
BLM is not about the murder of one man, although that was the catalyst for recent protests. But It is about the institutional racism thst is prevalent through most of our society. Even if try not to be racist, even if we think we aren’t racist, there is evidence of bias all over the place.
Send in a job application: one from John Smith will do better than an identical one from Jane Smith, both will do better than one from Achmed Khan.
Classical instrument players at auditions: white players were marked higher, when in person. When playing behind a screen, their advantage dropped.
No one is saying all racism is deliberate, but again and again it is shown to exist.
It isn’t the only form of discrimination or unfairness, but that is no reason to ignore it or do nothing.“‘Why should I support violence?’ Busting myths on taking a knee – The Athletic” theathletic.co.uk/2244447/2021/ … rxism-blm/
I agree. It is hard to figure it all out really. I am not at all religious, thus like to think that I can try to understand and interpret things uninfluenced by any doctrines. (Note Carryfast, ANY doctrines).
The nearest I can get to why racism persists despite many people really not wishing to be racist is that we often cannot help ourselves. As I said not being religious I accept that we are simply quite well evolved animals who retain many of our ancestors’ animal instincts. Thus the “gut feelings” we are often told to listen to, sixth senses etc… And if something or somebody looks different our residual instincts to congregate with and stick with those like us is conflicting with our intelligence telling us that the person in front of us is probably quite OK. I doubt you will all agree but that is how I see it.
I was blessed with decent parents and a father who was a really decent man. A tough working class decent man. When I was tiny I can recall seeing my first black man. He was our local roadsweeper. I was quite surprised and ran indoors asking my mother “WHAT is that?” Not who, what. Mum explained and the man turned out to be a nice bloke who I was always happy to see. Mum obviously spoke to dad about this. Dad spoke to me and simply explained that we all have different origins and, consequently, can look physically different outside. But Inside it’s all the same. He also showed me his large muscular arm (he was a boxing enthusiast) and said that he had been born a white Englishman and was happy and proud to be so. He said I had been too. But that did not make me any better or any worse than anybody else in the whole world. He was right and I have always tried to treat others with that in mind and raise my sons in the same spirit.
Racism is ubiquitous, among every race on this world. Whites, Blacks, Yellow, Brown, we all have prejudices against other colours. The Asians are as bad as us, as are the Japanese. Black people are racist amongst themselves, as well as other…
Add into this a healthy rivalry instilled by religious dogma, and a natural greedy need to get one over the next one, and you can see why the human race is such a ■■■■■■ up bunch of morons, who are happily carrying on destroying their home.
Until the human race finally realises that you can not change the past, that there is no Imaginary man (or woman… 
) in the sky, and that we will all die if we wreck the fragile environment of this fragile planet, nothing will change.
The BLM business originated in the US and has been adopted over here and assumed to be a parallel.The UK’s perceived racism is not remotely similar to anything from the US.
I was born in 1947 with thoroughly decent people as parents and have always treated people as people thanks to their guidance.In fact Charlie Williams(remember him?)was a near neighbour.
The political left’s current obsession with alleged racism,in my opinion,is actually having a reverse effect and attracting more of the same.
To kneel is to defer. Last time I looked, the words to Rule Brittania says ‘Britains never shall be slaves’. To kneel is a powerful symbolic act. The act of kneeling in protest and remembrance for a drug addled thug is a mawkish nonsense from across the pond, that has no place here.
What next? Saluting black people to show our respect? You earn respect, black or white.
Janos:
To kneel is to defer. Last time I looked, the words to Rule Brittania says ‘Britains never shall be slaves’. To kneel is a powerful symbolic act. The act of kneeling in protest and remembrance for a drug addled thug is a mawkish nonsense from across the pond, that has no place here.
What next? Saluting black people to show our respect? You earn respect, black or white.
This is where we appear to differ, not on the earning respect part of the post, but the rest of your post. You appear to see the act of kneeling as paying homage to a particular person or, perhaps, a group. I, and I think most of those kneeling publicly, see it as a sign of sympathy for a cause, for a display of support. I respectfully suggest you have misunderstood the point of kneeling.
I would not doubt that some people who are less than pure have jumped on the BLM cause bandwagon, but most are decent souls who really are ■■■■■■ off at being unfairly treated and abused so often. I can’t say I blame them.
We do appear to differ. To kneel is to submit, an act of deference to make ourselves appear smaller. We kneel to beg. It was rightly booed last night, and hopefully all through the Euros too. Why be a drone? As soon as BLM spouted its policy of defunding the police, any right thinking person should of tuned out. Unless you read the Guardian of course.
Janos:
We do appear to differ. To kneel is to submit, an act of deference to make ourselves appear smaller. We kneel to beg. It was rightly booed last night, and hopefully all through the Euros too. Why be a drone? As soon as BLM spouted its policy of defunding the police, any right thinking person should of tuned out. Unless you read the Guardian of course.
Defunding the police is yet another area where some have failed to fully comprehend what is being sought. There is no question of simply ceasing to pay for policing. This campaign started In the US where police budgets are very high. This is to fund the great costs involved in their duties and equipment. The problem is simply that their duties include many things (such as dealing with mental health cases) that they are neither trained, equipped or desirous to undertake. A similar situation that the UK police find themselves in but, I believe, the UK police are less burdened in that way.
So the “defund the police” call is to take away the vast funding that the US police get to cover such duties and re-allocate it to people who can Nothing more sinister.
To kneel; to acquiesce, to defer to , to worship, to submit to. Err, not for me thanks.
As the saying goes “I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
This was the England football team in Berlin in 1938. They were told that it was harmless and would please Hitler (their host). Can you see where this is going?
the maoster:
This was the England football team in Berlin in 1938. They were told that it was harmless and would please Hitler (their host). Can you see where this is going?
That was part of the same brilliant subterfuge as the waved piece of paper so we could get on with making Spitfires before the declaration of war.
Nothing to do with appeasing Communists. 
the maoster:
This was the England football team in Berlin in 1938. They were told that it was harmless and would please Hitler (their host). Can you see where this is going?
Exactly .
The parallels with the mid not so distant past of what’s going on now should have people worried if not actually fearful as so many seem to want various forms of apartheid or special treatment (examples from blm to calls from the likes of lucifer/blair for those not taking part in the grand medical experiments to be treated differently, got your yellow star yet?), this has form for not ending well but as people seem incapable of learning from history there is danger we might get to enjoy various repeat performances.
Once you’ve allowed totalitarians to feed their power thirst, steadily via the ratchet method so you don’t notice till too late, it usually involves strife fort others to prize that power from their hands, watch how our present govt/police/etc won’t relinquish the powers they’ve awarded themselves during even the past year.
the maoster:
This was the England football team in Berlin in 1938. They were told that it was harmless and would please Hitler (their host). Can you see where this is going?
Are the current England team acting under political instructions?
I understood they had decided amongst themselves to take the knee? Sort of a democratic vote?
Or am I wrong in that?
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Agree or not with kneeling, they are unlikely to be kow-towed into doing what a booing crowd wants, I’d have thought.
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Franglais:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Franglais:
WTF is all this “extremist Marxist” stuff about?
Maybe some people in BLM are Marxists? Does that mean they are all Marxists, or that it is a Marxist “organisation”?
Does one have to be member before one takes the knee?
If one person that votes for…lets say…Brexit is a fasc… is a Druid, does that mean all Brexiteers are Druids? Does that mean that all Druids are Brexiteers?
.
If I’ve never seen, smelt, touched, a Druid myself does that mean Druids don’t exist?
.
.
Apologies to any and all Druids, by the way.I think you’ll find people claiming that are following the Carryfast Doctrine
It’s not me who’s saying that skin colour matters.
Remind us who is it who’s saying that it does here you know the letters B and M in BLM.
Next you’ll be saying that Mugabe and Mandela weren’t running a Communist backed coup based on exactly the same racial agenda to create a typical Bolshevik army of useful idiots.Doesn’t matter who says what about skin colour. The stats show repeatedly that black people, and other ethnic groups have different outcomes in similar situstions to white people.
BLM is not about the murder of one man, although that was the catalyst for recent protests. But It is about the institutional racism thst is prevalent through most of our society. Even if try not to be racist, even if we think we aren’t racist, there is evidence of bias all over the place.
Send in a job application: one from John Smith will do better than an identical one from Jane Smith, both will do better than one from Achmed Khan.
Classical instrument players at auditions: white players were marked higher, when in person. When playing behind a screen, their advantage dropped.
No one is saying all racism is deliberate, but again and again it is shown to exist.
It isn’t the only form of discrimination or unfairness, but that is no reason to ignore it or do nothing.“‘Why should I support violence?’ Busting myths on taking a knee – The Athletic” theathletic.co.uk/2244447/2021/ … rxism-blm/
Your point about musicians is thin.
Unless every single black/ethnic musician was always marked down, it may simply be they weren’t as good…Some of the finest musicians on the planet are black.
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the maoster:
This was the England football team in Berlin in 1938. They were told that it was harmless and would please Hitler (their host). Can you see where this is going?
Hitler had already published Mein Kampf at that date and interested parties should have been quite aware of his intentions. This is why so many people vulnerable to those intentions had already left Germany by 1938. So those responsible for placating Hitler really should have known better.