I’m hourly paid which roughly means £100 to £130/day no nights out, very very rare to work a Saturday morning, a company van and my truck is washed for me.
Whilst this easy job is still available I wont be going elsewhere or looking to do class 1.
My Christmas present was having a window cleaned so I could see out of it…
I have just done some work for a company, in fact two companies as they work together a bit. I was told at start it was day rate. After a few days it was obvious that more hours than expected. I mentioned it and it was basically well it’s not always like this. I had agreed to cover the holidays for his driver’s. My fault I didn’t check but as a man of honour I did all the shifts I agreed to do.
On the last shift I went to his house to download my card. Right I’d better find you some work for when you get back off holiday. He obviously thought he’d found a new mug. I politely said nope that’s my lot. Not enough money for work required. He genuinely looked shocked. I’ve left a door open. I’ve proved my work ethic but if he wants me again he’s got to pay more.
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AndrewG:
Including time off working out an hourly rate of pay would have 90% of the population earning well below the minimum wage. No one no matter the industry works out their hourly rate from the time they leave their house. Someone on a fixed daily rate would work out their hourly rate by dividing that by the number of hours actually worked, NOT by 24…
That’s what I mean Andrew. Thinking that being away from home suddenly entitles the driver to be paid for 24 hours every day is absurd in the extreme. I dread to think what this guy is like with transport office staff.
Even on minimum wage it would equate to £180 per day plus night out money.
Olog Hai:
Even on minimum wage it would equate to £180 per day plus night out money.
Sounds reasonable to me!
Olog Hai:
AndrewG:
Including time off working out an hourly rate of pay would have 90% of the population earning well below the minimum wage. No one no matter the industry works out their hourly rate from the time they leave their house. Someone on a fixed daily rate would work out their hourly rate by dividing that by the number of hours actually worked, NOT by 24…That’s what I mean Andrew. Thinking that being away from home suddenly entitles the driver to be paid for 24 hours every day is absurd in the extreme. I dread to think what this guy is like with transport office staff.
Even on minimum wage it would equate to £180 per day plus night out money.
Nobody expects pay for 24 hours but what you would expect is a fair expense for overnight work not the little they pay now
It is 24 hours the driver is working no matter how you look at it or how you work it out
nightline:
Nobody expects pay for 24 hours but what you would expect is a fair expense for overnight work not the little they pay now
It is 24 hours the driver is working no matter how you look at it or how you work it out
So when I used to have nights out and I was in the pub or restaurant having a meal or in the cinema watching a movie I was actually working, I hadn’t realised so thanks for pointing that out.
Though to be fair I don’t think the people I drove for realised it either
tachograph:
nightline:
Nobody expects pay for 24 hours but what you would expect is a fair expense for overnight work not the little they pay now
It is 24 hours the driver is working no matter how you look at it or how you work it outSo when I used to have nights out and I was in the pub or restaurant having a meal or in the cinema watching a movie I was actually working, I hadn’t realised so thanks for pointing that out.
Though to be fair I don’t think the people I drove for realised it either
Thers a simple answer to that
Could you go home if you wanted to, no matter how you use the time you are still on company time
tachograph:
nightline:
Nobody expects pay for 24 hours but what you would expect is a fair expense for overnight work not the little they pay now
It is 24 hours the driver is working no matter how you look at it or how you work it outSo when I used to have nights out and I was in the pub or restaurant having a meal or in the cinema watching a movie I was actually working, I hadn’t realised so thanks for pointing that out.
Though to be fair I don’t think the people I drove for realised it either
It must be exciting planning how to spend the 20 quid every night and sleeping in a truck, I am so jealous
tachograph:
nightline:
So when I used to have nights out and I was in the pub or restaurant having a meal or in the cinema watching a movie I was actually working, I hadn’t realised so thanks for pointing that out.
Though to be fair I don’t think the people I drove for realised it either
Steady on Tachograph, i can hear snowflakes fainting in the aisles, you dared to leave the confines of the cab you are supposed to be guarding to visit a pubic house, of all places, a den of sin where alcohol would be consumed and where normal people might actually congregate and chat, real face to face stuff, females allowed too? swoon on a night out?
Phew thought I was the only one who went out for a beverage with the lads on a group meet up.
11 hours off on a Thursday night = visit local hostillery.
Course I dont need to have a drink to take me clothes off but it bloody helps.
One time at truck club I even danced the night away with the locals.
Blimey it’s bad enough my lot pay me to masterbate, can’t expect pay when I’ve cocked off surely.
Juddian:
tachograph:
nightline:
So when I used to have nights out and I was in the pub or restaurant having a meal or in the cinema watching a movie I was actually working, I hadn’t realised so thanks for pointing that out.
Though to be fair I don’t think the people I drove for realised it either
Steady on Tachograph, i can hear snowflakes fainting in the aisles, you dared to leave the confines of the cab you are supposed to be guarding to visit a pubic house, of all places, a den of sin where alcohol would be consumed and where normal people might actually congregate and chat, real face to face stuff, females allowed too? swoon
on a night out?
WHAT? Actual women? And BEER?
Hell fire Beaver, that’s another 2 dozens snowflakes out for the count
Dipper_Dave:
Phew thought I was the only one who went out for a beverage with the lads on a group meet up.11 hours off on a Thursday night = visit local hostillery.
Course I dont need to have a drink to take me clothes off but it bloody helps.One time at truck club I even danced the night away with the locals.
Blimey it’s bad enough my lot pay me to masterbate, can’t expect pay when I’ve cocked off surely.
First rule about Truck Club.
You dont talk about Truck Club.
I must say it’s a joy read so many people are so happy with there little perks while living away from home
At the least a travelling salesman gets a hotel and a no expense meal also he don’t get paid for 24 hours but he gets his comforts looked after and I know you’re cab is nice
Really for 20 quid, things are not good at home or you don’t have a home because for the life of me I can’t understand how it even improves your wages it has to be costing you money that’s unless you are very thrifty and bring left overs for the week
I earn more myself on day workand that’s just the lunch moneyl
109LWB:
Inherited wealth?
My parents are still alive… plus they have nothing to give. They gave me 250quid once when my grandma died, that’s it.
As a child we had nothing. Christmas was a chocolate orange and a book if I was lucky. All my clothes were hand me downs or from a charity shop. We had no games consoles, computers, bikes… we were poor, properly poor. My dad worked from 7 til 5 six days a week just to pay the bills.
But it didn’t matter, my parents loved me, Fed me… that’s all that mattered.jjeeeezzzzzz.
how the other half live.
i got used to getting clothed from the army and navy stores,but i thought it was a bit cruel when i had to go to school dressed as a japanese admiral.i once got a cap so i could sit and look out of the window.then the year after that i got an empty shoe box,and me dad told me it was an action man deserter…xmas day was a bowl of steam for lunch,then one year things got so bad we had to eat our family pet,percy the parrot.we really missed him after that…he was great fun and could imitate anything…even when we were eating him,he tasted just like a turkey…
Grumpy_old_trucker:
I’ve been in this industry since 1979, I’m not a driver that tends to move around but I left a company that I had been at 10 years and decided to have a change but first take a couple of months out and have a break from the industry.
Last week a company from Evesham (not that one) have opened a depot in my town and were recruiting so I rung, spoke to them and went for an interview.
£111 a day and £20 a night out and informed that 10 hours a day would be maximum, poor i thought but probably suit me as I’m not getting any younger and 10 hour days was more than enough for me.I started yesterday, 14 hours 45 minutes and I was just pulling out of my last drop, parked up on an industrial estate with where I’d tipped with no facilities, ran back to the yard this morning to tell them to shove it to be told I am down to do the same job today.
Obviously I no longer work for them, I work out that £111 divided by a 15 hour day works out at £7.40 an hour which is below the minimum rate, no wonder the vast majority of their drivers are Eastern European!
If they pay me for yesterday I will be delighted, I don’t see it somehow!
It is very good question how long same job can takes next day.I had situation when same job one day taked 10 hours but another day 14.And you in wrong about national minimum wages.NMW counted not per day but per reference person… Which can be up to 1 month.If you rec period 1 week that if you work one day 14,another day 8,14,8,14.Thay will be all legally from company side .But of course who people want more.
If at interview they told me 10 hours a day…i would have asked them What if i go over 10 hours
and take it from there…or failing that, park up at 10 hours and the balls in their court.
truckyboy:
If at interview they told me 10 hours a day…i would have asked themWhat if i go over 10 hours
and take it from there…or failing that, park up at 10 hours and the balls in their court.
This everything must at writing contract.But all what they talk verbal can not working in life and not one court can help unless gov rulles not Broken.
Just an update.
They, (Bannisters) paid one days pay £111 into my bank, no night out money or anything for day 2, I’ll put it down to growing up and being British and the satisfaction of knowing I’ve potentially warned off some other poor suckers from being ripped off by these cowboys!