scanny77:
so you are saying i was right Neil? the speed limit is 60, overspeeds dont matter providing i keep to that speed limit (which i do)?
Yep, and is what I said in my first post on this thread.
If it was illegal to go beyond the set speed of the limiter we would have to have a completely different kind of limiter fitted, and different legislation. The current law on speed limiters states the limiter must prevent the vehicle being powered beyond the set speed and indeed the power cuts when you reach the set speed. Gravity and or momentum are not the same as powered.
If you do ask him he will probably come out with some ■■■■■■■■ about contravening C&U regulations, that is what these trumpets normally fall back on. As long as the limiter is working properly you are not breaking any C&U regs by going over the set speed because of a hill.
i really cant see me giving him enough of my time for another debate on the issue but at least i know i was right in the first place. cheers for that mate
the one thing i did bring up was this (from tesco themselves):
speeding time - whilst on the flat, your vehicle is controlled to a speed set by your “limiter”. fuel efficient coasting (in gear) down hill within the legal maximum is recommended. speeding over 60mph in any situation is illegal and will affect your score.
as i said to him, my interpretation of this means that they recommend overspeeding providing you keep below 60mph. why else would they specifically state ‘the legal maximum’ and mention 60mph when their trucks cruise at 52mph (55 if you keep your foot on the accelerator)? surely they would say ‘dont allow your vehicle to go over its set limited speed’
VOSA have cameras that read your no plate, check what your limiter is set to on a database then compare that to the speed your doing, by my mind that could mean that they could pull you for over running down hill? Although i’m note sure what action they could take against you?
They can also measure your axle loads whilst your bowling along at 56mph and compare that to what the vehicle is rated at, although im not sure how they know what the trailer should be rated at seeing as there is no visible numberplate?
No point trying to rush things for your employer, its you who has to answer to them
Cynic-al:
VOSA have cameras that read your no plate, check what your limiter is set to on a database then compare that to the speed your doing, by my mind that could mean that they could pull you for over running down hill? Although i’m note sure what action they could take against you?
They can also measure your axle loads whilst your bowling along at 56mph and compare that to what the vehicle is rated at, although im not sure how they know what the trailer should be rated at seeing as there is no visible numberplate?
No point trying to rush things for your employer, its you who has to answer to them
No point trying to believe every bit of BS you are told, it’s your head which will explode.
scanny77:
so you are saying i was right Neil? the speed limit is 60, overspeeds dont matter providing i keep to that speed limit (which i do)?
now that i think about it, i regularly do this as there is virtually no motorway in Scotland that doesnt have a few downhill stretches where the truck will push past the limiter yet i have had not one infringement for overspeeds even though sometimes the hill is long enough to give me the warnings on the tacho which get acknowledged by pressing the button twice, then ignored as i carry on at 60 until the hill runs out which can be for a couple of minutes in some cases. if this is illegal, where are the infringements? i think i will ask that at the next performance review and see what he has to say about it
I can’t believe this has gone to two pages !! Try this, forget legal limits for a minute we all know what they are. Tescos limit their vehicles to 85kmph, that means they don’t want them to go any faster. Now,imagine me and you are the bosses and a driver is returning figures of 90kmph. What do you say we do about this? Turn a blind eye to it or change our whole policy on vehicle speeds? Or, maybe mention it to the driver as something he is doing wrong that we don’t want him to do?
But take no notice of me, you drive at the legal limit as you know you’re right. And when Tescos sack you for exceeding their limited speed i’m sure all the speeding experts here will pay for your new car loan.
The title of this thread is…this is a new one on me - speed limits
You might of been more accurate titling it…do i have to do what the boss says
and there’ll be no end of guys doing exactly what the boss says that will tell you that you don’t have to.
the original question still stands. this guy wasnt talking about company policy. he was trying to make me believe that the LEGAL speed limit is whatever the vehicle is limited to. that is what we argued about, not what the preferred speed is, not that the limited speed relates to that anyway. they want us travelling at 47MPH, the cruise control will sit at 52MPH and the limiter allows us to sit at 55MPH. in which case, if this guy wasnt talking balony, the legal speed limit is 55MPH for tesco trucks as that is what they are limited to. to my knowledge (as confirmed here), that is the limited speed but that has no bearing on the legal speed limit which is still 60MPH
Mike-C:
You might of been more accurate titling it…do i have to do what the boss says
Assuming of course waht the boss has told you to do is ‘fair’ and legal etc etc etc
Let’s not forget that some ‘bosses’ will tell you that black is blue in order to get you to do what “they want”
This is of course true. But its also true that if someone could not operate his vehicle within the constraints and limitations imposed by his employer then he may need retraining.
