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From UK Hauliers website ukhaulier.co.uk/news/europe … n-germany/

Two DAF CF Electric tractors for Rhenus Logistics in Germany

DAF Trucks has delivered two fully electric 4×2 tractor units to Germany’s Contargo – a subsidiary of global logistics provider, Rhenus Group. The full electric trucks feature E-Power Technology from VDL and will be used for container transport around hinterland terminals in the German Lower Rhine area. The DAF CF Electric deliveries are the first for operations in Germany, and the 6th and 7th to take part in an extensive field test.

Richard Zink, Director Marketing & Sales and Member of the Board of Management at DAF Trucks, handed over the key of the CF Electric to Michael Viefers, Member of the Board of the Rhenus Group.

Rhenus Group is a global logistics service company, specialising in Contract Logistics, Freight Logistics and Port Logistics. It has a turnover of € 4.8 billion, more than 610 locations worldwide and employs 29,000 people. The DAF CF Electric tractors join the fleet of the trimodal container hinterland specialist Contargo, a 100% Rhenus company, handling a total volume of 2 million containers per year.

Electric trucks for urban areas
“It is clear that the transport sector is on the cusp of a major transformation”, states Richard Zink. “Take the better route is Contargo’s aim and I am extremely proud that we can support this mission and drive the success of Contargo even further with two DAF CF Electric trucks. They are ‘the better route’ as the electric truck is set to become the norm in more and more urban areas in future, all around Europe.” Zink continues: “We are delighted we can broaden our experience with electric trucks in collaboration with renowned companies like Rhenus. The data we collect about both the technology and the operational deployment will feed into the specifications for the final production models, thus ensuring that they fit seamlessly with the requirements of the market.”

“Important step towards de-carbonization”
“We are very proud to be one of the first to drive these pioneering DAFs”, states Jürgen Albersmann, Managing Director at Contargo. “One of our targets is to be de-carbonised by 2050. These trucks represent one important step towards this ambitious target.”

Local container delivery
The DAF CF Electric trucks will have their home base in Duisburg and will be used for local container deliveries within the conventional truck fleet of Contargo. The management of the truck will be executed by Rhenus Trucking, acting as service provider for Contargo.

About the DAF CF Electric
The DAF CF Electric is a full electric 4×2 tractor unit developed for road haulage of up to 37 tonnes in urban areas, where single-axle or dual-axle trailers are the norm. The vehicle is based on the DAF CF — named ‘International Truck of the Year 2018’ — and is operated fully electrically using VDL’s E-Power Technology. The core of its intelligent powertrain is a 210-kW electric motor powered by a lithium-ion battery pack with a current total capacity of 170 kWh. The CF Electric has a range of up to 100 kilometres, depending on the weight of its cargo, making it suitable for zero emissions high-volume transport in the urban areas. The batteries have a 30-minute quick-charge feature and a full charge takes just one and a half hours.

DAF CF Electric — Technical specifications

Truck weight 9,700 kg
Electric motor 210 kW
Torque 2,000 Nm
Battery capacity 170 kWh
Range of fully charged vehicle up to 100 km
Battery quick-charge 30 minutes
Full charge 1.5 hours

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100km range!Wonderful!
I wonder is that with or without tail lift operation?
With or without lights.(Internal and external),radio,heated mirrors etc.
Dont answer that! No doubt it will happen,thankfully,Ill not be worrying about it from my nursing home!
There was a guy on BBC 4 last week,talking about the merits of electric vehicles.Seemed to be more level headed than the usual tree hugging freaks.
He concluded that cars,and light urban deliveries are feasible,but HGVs,at this moment in time,simply are not.
Think its just so “de rigeur” to be green these days.

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I assume…

That the drivers of these new fangled electrothingys (judging by the one in the picture) have to be much shorter and lighter than regular drivers to keep the range up?

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Get used to it, in the not too distant future only electric vehicles will be allowed to deliver in low( becoming no ) emission zones and most cities and urban areas will be no emission zones, this will happen faster than you might think probably within 20 years.

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RIPPER:
DAF CF Electric — Technical specifications

Truck weight 9,700 kg
Electric motor 210 kW
Torque 2,000 Nm
Battery capacity 170 kWh
Range of fully charged vehicle up to 100 km
Battery quick-charge 30 minutes
Full charge 1.5 hours

Full charge = 170 kWh x 12.5 p per kWh + road fuel duty + VAT on the duty.Fuel cost per mile then dependent on the definition of ‘up to’.

Battery life in terms of quick/full charge cycles.

Battery replacement cost.

Remind us what the makes up the majority of the fuel used for German electricity generation and estimated electricity costs assuming the loss of coal,gas and oil fired generation.

The obvious implication also being the total wipe out of the long haul road transport sector.That’ll work.

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At least your average RDC delivery will see your batteries fully charged…

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Daf c.f. named truck of the year 2018 lol. Competition can’t have been good that year then

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Remember not that long back London transport was all electric once, trolley buses, but for some unexplained reason suddenly got rid of, I wonder why??

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OssieD:
Remember not that long back London transport was all electric once, trolley buses, but for some unexplained reason suddenly got rid of, I wonder why??

Absolutely nothing in common with these new trucks.Do some research and you may stop wondering. :laughing:

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jakethesnake:

OssieD:
Remember not that long back London transport was all electric once, trolley buses, but for some unexplained reason suddenly got rid of, I wonder why??

Absolutely nothing in common with these new trucks.Do some research and you may stop wondering. :laughing:

I think you’ll find the Germans have today just started some trials of lorry’s fitted with similar setup to the over head wires on the old trolly’s, not far off, anyway I was under to impression it was all down to less emissions…
Ossie

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new German study shows modern diesel car in its life produces less emissions than electric car. Big problem still remains in manufacturing batteries and making green electricity…
Electric cars/trucks are only good to take exhaust emissions away from towns!
Saw other day Nissan car with ‘Zero emission’ on its boot…so fake! Them Japanese forgot about brak pads and tyre wear emission!!!

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LL79:
Saw other day Nissan car with ‘Zero emission’ on its boot…so fake! Them Japanese forgot about brak pads and tyre wear emission!!!

Zero emissions.The irony.Radioactive wasteland so much better than a bit of CO2 in the air.

youtube.com/watch?v=oB-K78L8oNI

youtube.com/watch?v=-qtQvOxRtFk

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Look on the bright side - bet it’s ‘fixed’ the arsetronic 'box.

Most of my recent shifts have been 40 - 80 km of moving trailers between two distribution centres 7 minutes apart and averaging around one 45-minute actros DPF regen a month. I’d give it a whirl.

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The haulage industry and its drivers will never amaze me, the fear of something new scares them to death. Everything from the introduction of the digicard, revamp of the tacho rules, wtd, lower emission engines, ad blue, lowering of hp, increases of hp everything is scrutinised.

As a great man called Brian once said Always look on the bright side of life :laughing:

Electric trucks on British roads are years away, many of us will have given the job up. Even if they were to hit our roads, our road network and truck parking would need to be upgraded to meet the needs, charging points etc, cost would increase as hauliers would need to start paying out extra especially for those in the industry that night out, couldn’t have lay-bys and industrial estates filled with trucks unable to move because they were dead.
If they were to hit our roads it would be on the little multi drop puddle jumpers.

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Wonder who will be the first recovery firm to buy an electric wrecker to recover dead trucks from zero emission zones? :open_mouth:

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Think of all the tangs parked up on the hard shoulder with flat battreys

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I can see a few problems with electric trucks, firstly you’ll have to reduce the payload to cater for the batteries weight. Secondly you’d need a lot of batteries to get the same range that you currently get out of a tank of diesel.
Also when you’re fully laden I can imagine the battery charge level dropping like a stone. Was told a while back that at 80,000miles a Prius requires a new set of batteries…total cost inc labour… £2300.
So I’m wondering what will be the working life of these new trucks?

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we make an electric wheeled excavator in france , mecalac e12 weighs in at 12 tonnes , allegedly good for 8 hours work.

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whiplash:
100km range!Wonderful!
I wonder is that with or without tail lift operation?
With or without lights.(Internal and external),radio,heated mirrors etc.
Dont answer that! No doubt it will happen,thankfully,Ill not be worrying about it from my nursing home!
There was a guy on BBC 4 last week,talking about the merits of electric vehicles.Seemed to be more level headed than the usual tree hugging freaks.
He concluded that cars,and light urban deliveries are feasible,but HGVs,at this moment in time,simply are not.
Think its just so “de rigeur” to be green these days.

Hey dude,go easy on the “tree huggers”,as a self confessed member of that noble band,(currently trying to stave off an isle of wight council plan to destroy an 150 year oak tree,to ease the facilitation of a 5g network mast) I mean do you want the the remains of England resembling a hideous dystopia like Milton bloody Keynes for petes sake??,very much seems to be where it’s all heading.No point coralling isolated,local protests into the fake climate change bandwagon narrative ffs.Question: those hydrogen “tests” they did back in the 1950s,exploding nukes up in the van>allen belt,maybe not such a good idea,punching a sodding hole in the planets magnetic (protective) field wouldn’t you say?It’s ■■■■ obvious the Green words been hijacked rather brazenly by the very corporate entities currently upscaling the planets plundering rate.

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stuwozere1:
I can see a few problems with electric trucks, firstly you’ll have to reduce the payload to cater for the batteries weight. Secondly you’d need a lot of batteries to get the same range that you currently get out of a tank of diesel.
Also when you’re fully laden I can imagine the battery charge level dropping like a stone. Was told a while back that at 80,000miles a Prius requires a new set of batteries…total cost inc labour… £2300.
So I’m wondering what will be the working life of these new trucks?

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That’s just over £500 a year. I guess that’s not far off from what you pay for regular servicing and a cambelt change over a similar period for a diesel or petrol engine. With new engines if you factor in the cost of replacement cats or dpfs, an electric engine may not be such a bad idea.