'There's something wrong with you'

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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I’m not well-educated at all. I didn’t even do A levels, stay on at school, let alone go to University.

If I say anything, what I get back goes way beyond police conversation.
I’m no “Victim” here because I’m neither Black, Jewish, Unsure ■■■, etc that people like to put labels on these days as “Victims”.

My ambitions are pretty low as well:

Make Money
Get left alone after.
Rinse and repeat.
I don’t require “Fame” to make me “Happy” - just financial security.
That, in turn - can be achieved from getting a well-paid job that doesn’t get taken away from me on some pretence
I’m only ■■■■■■ off when people conspire to make me poorer. That’s it.
If I was still putting in the hours, being paid well - I don’t recall moaning much a couple of years ago, and I ignored the stick I got back then for “taking a job at Brakes” as if you folks thought there was something inately wrong with it. Not on the artics there wasn’t! That job didn’t last through no fault of my own, not as you’d have it “No one will take him on”. I didn’t lose RM except by being backstabbed. I didn’t lose Supermarkets - except by being backstabbed. So what should I do to keep my next job? - “Avoid being Backstabbed by staying anonymous at work”. Let’s see if it works, because if any of you lot step in and interfere from here on - I’ll take that as “Stalking”, and will take the apporpriate legal action.

If there are any “Victims” here, it must be you lot, constantly feeling the need to attack anything and everything I say, and counting your curses that I wasn’t the 30 something driver killed this morning coming home from Dartford. I did that very job in January of last year FFS - I felt this one more than most, even though I didn’t know the driver concerned. I’m sick of being pushed around by liars, idiots, and “I’m alright Jack” scumbags who think they’ve already had the last laugh on me… I didn’t get this upset until my family were affected by the abuse.

Now Knock it off.

Just STOP the hostility. If my posts bore you all, just click onto someone else who’s more to your wavelength, and IGNORE me. STOP baiting me all the time!
All the time you keep accusing me of stuff, I’m compelled to come back…
I’m trying to move on from Furlough, but you gits ain’t letting me! :angry:

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Winseer:
Let’s see if it works, because if any of you lot step in and interfere from here on - I’ll take that as “Stalking”, and will take the apporpriate legal action.

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Winseer:
and counting your curses that I wasn’t the 30 something driver killed this morning coming home from Dartford.x

What an absolutely disgusting and disgraceful thing to say! And you wonder why people react with hostility to you?

I’ve attempted to give friendly advice to you but it your usual way you’ve managed to twist that and throw it back in my face. Ever the bloody victim.

Well ■■■■ you and ■■■■ the horse you rode in on. I’ve tried and failed and am now washing my hands of you, my tank of human kindness is now running on empty as far as you’re concerned!

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You know what Winseer mate?
I for one am going to try and stop making negative comments about you on here, the ■■■■ taking, and hoping that you pick up the vibe to protect yourself…from yourself.!
I was thinking ir may have the effect of you maybe actually taking some notice, with a result of you maybe cutting the crap on here …which seems to rub everybody up the wrong way.

Why?
Because after reading your last post I genuinely think you are on some kind of meltdown mate, and it’s crossed the line a bit tbh. :neutral_face:

Get some advice bud, and sort yourself out…seriously. :bulb:

(I ain’t joking or taking the ■■■■ here either. :bulb:)

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Agree with you both. We’ve have been here before. I gave him advice weeks ago on how to deal with the problems to get solutions, but as per usual it fell on deaf ears. I say again: you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink :bulb: . Now that’s he threatening legal action against any member that doesn’t kowtow to his demands, well there’s only one suitable response to that : go ■■■■ yourself, nob.

Over and out.

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Winseer:
and counting your curses that I wasn’t the 30 something driver killed this morning coming home from Dartford.

Way way out…

Of order.

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the maoster:

Winseer:
and counting your curses that I wasn’t the 30 something driver killed this morning coming home from Dartford.x

What an absolutely disgusting and disgraceful thing to say! And you wonder why people react with hostility to you?
What else am I to conclude to a post read 300 times before getting a couple of messages of sympathy left on it for now-departed driver?.. Oh, Avinalaff puts one on there minutes after a negative post on this thread, as if in an afterthought there…

I’ve attempted to give friendly advice to you but it your usual way you’ve managed to twist that and throw it back in my face. Ever the bloody victim.
I didn’t ask to be one. I didn’t want to be one. I’ve been made one though.

Well [zb] you and [zb] the horse you rode in on. I’ve tried and failed and am now washing my hands of you, my tank of human kindness is now running on empty as far as you’re concerned!

I’m not interested in playing political games in order to “fit in” or “keep a job” or indeed get one in the first place.

I’ve made no “demands” of anyone, other than to be treated fairly and equally. That’s it. Paid and left alone. In the past year @ Supermarket I even took the trouble of not striking up any friendships with anyone, keeping myself to myself. No dice though. Got grassed up for “parking in the wrong part of the yard”, and it went downhill fast from there when I was initially carpeted and I thought that was it… Suddenly I’m under scrutiny all the time, and getting pulled up for every little thing whilst those bringing these things to management attention - get away with exactly the same, or mis-using computers I don’t have access to in an MI5 manner “because full timers are more equal than others”.
All the hostility on here, and yet no one ever had the guts to try approaching me in the real world with such same hostilities, such brazen misconduct under the firm’s own rules FFS… A bit odd that, as I’m no Mike Tyson, so hardly an intimidating prescence… Wot’s the worst that could happen? I give the full half-hour argument, and you’re then late for your hot date?

Indeed I may be undergoing some mental health issues over my entire family’s current impoverishment - but still the negative remarks continue over anything and everything I say, always another excuse to stick yet another barb into the wounded bull…
I don’t like being robbed
I don’t like being kicked whilst I’m down.
I’m sick to death of “face fits” office politics.
If you’re sick of the proverbial bull’s hit yourselves, - then don’t stand behind me poking me with your barbs FFS.

“Kindness” would have been pulling me to one side, and telling me straight “If you do that again, we’ll get rid of you one way or the other”.
Fair warning, I’m able to amend my ways, should they be considered so irritating. I can’t very well respond to “inferences” or “innuendo” or “dishonesty” though- can I?
What did I ever do to upset so much - really? Break into anyone’s house and nick 8 grand off them? Damage their pride-and-joy car? accuse them of crimes based on rumour and suspicion instead of actual evidence? Just lie and lie until someone higher up takes you seriously and does the dirty for you?
I get it that Wealthy people these days come in for a lot of stick, and constantly look over their shoulder whilst out there…
I ain’t wealthy though, especially not now… People would still dislike me if I were, no doubt - but at least I’d get a bit more respect than has been forthcoming for being on the verge of being out on the street.

I continue to draw some comfort at the “Black Swan” event currently in progress. The world will be a lot different in 2021 to what it is in 2020 and before. I make my stand here.

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Resist the temptation to reply, folks. :bulb:

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robroy:

the maoster:
^^^^ stop playing the victim FFS! I bear you no I’ll will or indeed animosity Winseer, how could I? I’ve never met you and I don’t know you from Adam, but I absolutely guarantee that if I ever met you and even if Trucknet was not mentioned I’d have a pretty good idea in a matter of minutes that it was you. That’d be the point I invented a fictional phone call that neede to be made!

+1
I’m sick of his [zb] whinging and whining on here…‘‘Poor me nobody likes me, everybody’s against me’.’’ cry [zb] cry. :unamused:
Ask yourself why ffs, everybody else can not be wrong, and you on your own right. :bulb:
Get a grip of yourself man !!

The day I learn to monetize “being correct when everyone else is wrong” - will be the day I hang up my keys, and take the job I always wanted from the beginning…
But I can’t do it flat on my back financially back @ Square One still, alas…
This is a shame, as the world is fast becoming very ripe for those who still know the “Risk Management” game back-to-front…
The world already saw last month the weird and strange event (for most) where a 42 gallon Barrel of Oil was worth less than a single square of toilet paper…
What’s Next? The Euro collapsing, but with food prices getting cheaper rather than more expensive as “experts” seem to believe…
Buying Anything denominated in Euros at present - would seem to be like filling your boots with CDOs in 2008 - put it that way.
If people think I am a pain in the arse for moaning about impoverishment - spare a thought for over 100milllion people suddenly told that their entire financial lives are gone to dust at once.?
Prototype of “■■■■■■ Off” I might be in this context, but now you put nine zeros on the end of that single ‘1’…

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R420:
Resist the temptation to reply, folks. :bulb:

Indeed, if you can’t talk about the other non-moany stuff in my attempts to “change the subject” here, then there’s no point even continuing this thread - is there? :unamused:

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Is this where we have finally landed guys? I find Winseers posts very disturbing in content within this thread. I may have this all wrong but if a man is reaching out like this, rather than kick him when he is down, we should be giving him a crutch. What is wrong with people nowadays, Jesus Christ give the man a break here. Winseer are you ok man? I detect a lot of sadness and really hope you are not playing anyone here as this is not coming across too well in my eyes. If you are depressed and feeling bad, I am afraid this is probably not the best place to seek any comfort. For the record, I don’t find you’re posts boring. It is not about being popular on here, heavens above your well ahead of me on that stake, come on Winseer this isn’t you. Chin up and stiff upper lip.

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I dont have any problems with anyone. I believe in going in do the job and go home. I have fallen out witha few people who think they know better. When i started on containers my mentor was a moron. After our first day he went in the office and said we were not getting along. I had told him i can manage the next day on my own. He had expected a few days of just sitting doing nothing. I politely told the manager i can manage at the dock i will ask no big deal. He had been annoyed with me because he had turned up late, i had hooked the trailer and done my walk around check before he came.

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I like you,winseer.

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UKtramp:
Is this where we have finally landed guys? I find Winseers posts very disturbing in content within this thread. I may have this all wrong but if a man is reaching out like this, rather than kick him when he is down, we should be giving him a crutch. What is wrong with people nowadays, Jesus Christ give the man a break here. Winseer are you ok man? I detect a lot of sadness and really hope you are not playing anyone here as this is not coming across too well in my eyes. If you are depressed and feeling bad, I am afraid this is probably not the best place to seek any comfort. For the record, I don’t find you’re posts boring. It is not about being popular on here, heavens above your well ahead of me on that stake, come on Winseer this isn’t you. Chin up and stiff upper lip.

Tbf UKt giving sympathy to sympathy seekers ain’t maybe the best thing to do mate, I have found it tends to make them worse.
As I said, I won’t give him anymore stick for his attention seeking victim posts, but instead try and offer some constructive advice, he is a fellow driver after all…whether or not he takes it is up to him

Move on, stop feeling sorry for yourself, and deal with the situation at work yourself, there are jobs out there for experienced drivers, maybe not first choice ones, but jobs to bring in the cash.
That is better than feeling bitter and twisted about it, and going over and over (and over) it again and again. :unamused:
As for being quote;…‘‘impoverished’’ I would bet it is more of a short of cash situation,.a tad less serious in effect. :bulb:
I actually HAVE been ‘‘impoverished’’ bankrupt, house re.possessed, wife and 2 kids to provide for, sat in a jobcentre with a load of dead legs…did I whinge on a forum about it?..No I got off my arse and took a job with a cowboy outfit, blagged it to ■■■■ on hours,.and got back on an even keel.
A forum for hard assed truckers is not the best place to get touchy feely sympathy and/or counselling, and your tactless crack about the lad who was killed was crass and unforgivable.
Maybe you do get a lot of stick on here. .and whether or not you ask for it is another argument, but you’ve got to stop taking it all so ■■■■ seriously man. :bulb:
I also get a lot of crap on here sometimes off a certain few (The Robfans :laughing: ), but I deal with it differently, because unlike you I don’t really mind it …(to the point of enjoying it :smiley: ) and try to give as much back.and better as I get.
(I had 3 at me on here at one time in a triple pincer movement :laughing: , water off a duck’s thingy, only mistake I sometimes make is having to have the last word, so it sometimes goes on a bit…to the disdain of other members. :blush: :laughing: …)

So basically I would say sort yourself out mate, and stop treating this forum as if it is real life…it ain’t. :bulb:
And have a think about what you type in future.

Courtesy of Rob’s Trucknet Councelling and advice service. :sunglasses: :smiley:

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stop treating this forum as if it is real life…it ain’t. :bulb:

Courtesy of Rob’s Trucknet Councelling and advice service. :sunglasses: :smiley:

WTF■■?

when did that happen!! :laughing:

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This thread has reached new depths with some ones lines about the RM driver yesterday [emoji49]
No matter where the driver comes from or what sized truck he drives , he’s not going home to his family [emoji22]
We may joke etc about EE’s etc but when it comes to death we don’t

Sent while in furlough

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Darkside:
stop treating this forum as if it is real life…it ain’t. :bulb:

Courtesy of Rob’s Trucknet Councelling and advice service. :sunglasses: :smiley:

WTF■■?

when did that happen!! :laughing:

Sick of ■■■■ driving, so started a new business 25 quid an hour plus exs…cleared it with Dave.
Relationships, women,.drinking, football, ■■■?.. in fact any laddish problems…I’m yer man.
(Sticking to subjects I know best btw. :sunglasses: ) :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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UKtramp:
Is this where we have finally landed guys? I find Winseers posts very disturbing in content within this thread. I may have this all wrong but if a man is reaching out like this, rather than kick him when he is down, we should be giving him a crutch. What is wrong with people nowadays, Jesus Christ give the man a break here. Winseer are you ok man? I detect a lot of sadness and really hope you are not playing anyone here as this is not coming across too well in my eyes. If you are depressed and feeling bad, I am afraid this is probably not the best place to seek any comfort. For the record, I don’t find you’re posts boring. It is not about being popular on here, heavens above your well ahead of me on that stake, come on Winseer this isn’t you. Chin up and stiff upper lip.

I thought I had covered myself from all angles financially, but I got blindsided by suddenly losing my well-paid job via dishonest management acting to preserve their own positions, along with their lies and deceit and deliberate disregard of others breeching what they saw as their own hallowed rules. I would have prefered a stand-up sacking or an honest dressing down where I could try and set something up to give me a proverbial “soft landing”. Instead of being escorted from the building though, I had already gone home for the last time before I found out nearly two weeks later that I “wasn’t wanted back”…

Years ago, I found out that the best way to get over any feelings of “depression” was to get angry instead. Anger works!
If I rant on here, it is to let off steam. No one is forced to read it after all.

There are others out there even worse off than I am of course, and I recall with horror how close I was to getting the bullet back in 2010 which another driver who started weeks before I did - getting that sacking that took away a large redundancy package from him, - one that’d I’d already “taken and run” with by that point in 2011. Yet another driver I didn’t see eye-to-eye with died later in 2011 as well, and I remember thinking at that time that “There’s always someone else worse off than you”.
A philosophy that has got me by over this past decade of Austerity where I continue my quest for a job well-paid enough to eventually pay off my mortgage before I end up defaulting it.
Get a Job, Not smash anything up or break any actual laws, keep my head down, rinse and repeat.
I don’t want people resenting me such that I end up losing out suddenly, not just on high earnings, but on this occasion the anticipated 8 grand in furlough pay I was expecting to be getting as well.
When this crisis is done - a lot of jobs will be gone forever, and not coming back. Full timers will be pressed to cover more and more as well within their contracts, so we’re all losers to these dishonest managers in the end, who’ll do anything to maintain their own positions, but routinely put the “Poacher-■■■-Gamekeeper” hat on. NOT a good thing for someone like me who clearly irritated my own rank-and-file years before, only to have them now beat me about the head with the proverbial sharp stick by way of “Retribution” for my perceived annoying ways…

I shouldn’t have to bow down and worship people that used to do the same job as me. I chose to stay as I was, never interested in “promotion to management” I don’t even understand how I can be possibly perceived as a “Threat to them” !?
Was it so much to ask and expect for me to just be “Left alone to my own devices” rather than "got rid of for being a naughty boy " even though it didn’t detract from anyone else’s lifestyles, no matter what wrong street I went down, how long I took to do a job, or volunteering for as many long runs as I could get… I was never approached even ONCE for “Stepping on someone’s toes” though. At least that would have made the end result a bit more honest…

As for the “Politics”, - it seems to be a Center-Left thing to rely on machinations, lies, deceit and “Lip Service” to get one’s way when in a position of authority.
I’ll also do everything I can to avoid this “Chinese-Influenced Social Scoring” thing, where Computers get routinely used to act against individuals. I’ve had enough of that in the workplace FFS - Who watches the Watchers? I even asked for some Camera footage to back me up one day, only to be told “It’s not available for you”.

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robroy:
I deal with it differently, because unlike you I don’t really mind it …(to the point of enjoying it :smiley: ) and try to give as much back.and better as I get.
(I had 3 at me on here at one time in a triple pincer movement :laughing: , water off a duck’s thingy, only mistake I sometimes make is having to have the last word, so it sometimes goes on a bit…to the disdain of other members. :blush: :laughing: …)

Well all well and good Rob, I see it as we all deal with things differently and take things to heart differently. To me this looks like Winseer is struggling with his own problem of feeling not fitting in and not dealing with it too well to the point of him arguing with his wife. Now I have the same feeling as you about this or any forum, it isn’t real life and water off a ducks back to me, yes I am a sadist and do actually enjoy the grief I get on here, that is because it is amusing to me as I have a very different real life. I am convinced that there are those on here that take this as a big part of their lives. I don’t think anyone who asks the question of “how can I become more popular” is funny, it is very sad and tells me that this person is feeling bad and wants to fit in.

I have always thought (and still do) that you were a decent bloke Rob, I get that impression from both you’re normal posts and posts that you have done to me. I am the first to admit that I have not just bruised a few egos on here but positively kicked them right in, hence a lot of my haters have received this from me, however I do know where to draw the line, I would not intentionally belittle someone or mock someones personal torment. I think Winseer has reached a point that he is feeling pretty much alone, that is not a good thing in my views. I am no mother Theresa but I do feel for the guy and like you say, he is after all a fellow driver. He deserves a break and we should all respect each other if someone is upset or feeling down. Just my feelings on this matter.

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blue estate:
This thread has reached new depths with some ones lines about the RM driver yesterday [emoji49]
No matter where the driver comes from or what sized truck he drives , he’s not going home to his family [emoji22]
We may joke etc about EE’s etc but when it comes to death we don’t

Sent while in furlough

+1 there. someone else grief and misery is no joke. Any loss of life is tragic.