The pays crap but it's good kit

See this sentence so much on here,is there really people that are happy to pay 1000s to get a HGV licence and earn crap pay as long as you have a newish vehicle■■?

I think it’s a but of different things for different people. Personally my co. took me on when I’d just passed my class 2, (I had been driving van and trailer for 3 years prior which helped though), they put me through my class 1 last year, so can’t grumble too much really. Pay not bad, certainly not the worst in the area (immingham). All fleet under 3yo.

Since been with current gf though, we’re looking to eventually move near Lincoln, which would be too much of a commute, so putting feelers out for something nearer. Pay obviously will be main consideration, but distance to travel also a big factor. Couldn’t care less what I drive aslong as its legal tbh.

ckm1981:
See this sentence so much on here,is there really people that are happy to pay 1000s to get a HGV licence and earn crap pay as long as you have a newish vehicle■■?

In the same vein, I often wonder about the ones who lavish hard work and money on someone else’s truck, polishing it to high heaven and fitting extras at their own cost, but drive round in a tatty old nail when not at work?? :open_mouth:

I enquired at one local haulier last year, that was paying just £7.20 hour for rigids and £8.00 hour for artics, on multi drop steel deliveries. Needless to say I walked away from that one - nice trucks or not.

Bit like the ones who give up there holidays for a light bar that still belongs to the company and not them

mac12:
Bit like the ones who give up there holidays for a light bar that still belongs to the company and not them

You what? :open_mouth:

Steve66:

mac12:
Bit like the ones who give up there holidays for a light bar that still belongs to the company and not them

You what? :open_mouth:

Oh yes,have a read on “have bentons gone plain white” !

Why do these threads always go the same way. So what if a driver wants to spend THEIR money on a lorry. It’s a hobby, I think people who spend thousands on fishing gear to sit by a river are mental, but each to their own. Don’t even start me on spending money on ■■■■ and booze. Everyone is different, don’t judge, just get on with it

OVLOV JAY:
Why do these threads always go the same way. So what if a driver wants to spend THEIR money on a lorry. It’s a hobby, I think people who spend thousands on fishing gear to sit by a river are mental, but each to their own. Don’t even start me on spending money on ■■■■ and booze. Everyone is different, don’t judge, just get on with it

I think the problem they have is that, you can spend a fortune on fishing gear, or ■■■■, or booze or even bicycles, but at the end of the day its yours to keep, not so with anything you stick on someone else’s vehicle.
Personally I couldn’t give one what anyone has on a vehicle,or if they have a nameplate or if they choose to drive wearing hi viz, or any other type of clothing. I’m always amazed how it gets some peoples back up.

OVLOV JAY:
So what if a driver wants to spend THEIR money on a lorry.

It’s the 'someone else’s bit you missed out.

If you are gonna say stuff like that mate, maybe you ought to change that sig statement at the bottom of your page. :bulb: :smiley:

Sorry couldn’t resist. :smiley:

See you have changed sig statement since original post so it does not apply now :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

BillyHunt:

OVLOV JAY:
Why do these threads always go the same way. So what if a driver wants to spend THEIR money on a lorry. It’s a hobby, I think people who spend thousands on fishing gear to sit by a river are mental, but each to their own. Don’t even start me on spending money on ■■■■ and booze. Everyone is different, don’t judge, just get on with it

I think the problem they have is that, you can spend a fortune on fishing gear, or ■■■■, or booze or even bicycles, but at the end of the day its yours to keep, not so with anything you stick on someone else’s vehicle.
Personally I couldn’t give one what anyone has on a vehicle,or if they have a nameplate or if they choose to drive wearing hi viz, or any other type of clothing. I’m always amazed how it gets some peoples back up.

Why is it not my stuff if I buy it then?

In my experience a lot of firms that put in their job adverts “good kit” actually run crap. Those that run good kit don’t need to promote the fact, it’s well known.

Those who baffle me are those who feel the need to post their earnings with no provocation, and the glee which follows the proclamation of £12 or whatever per hour, £700 or whatever per week, or £30k or whatever per year. Are any of these REALLY anything to be proud of and make you feel that you’re better than everybody else when compared with the earnings that can be had in other lines of work?

Olog Hai:
Those who baffle me are those who feel the need to post their earnings with no provocation, and the glee which follows the proclamation of £12 or whatever per hour, £700 or whatever per week, or £30k or whatever per year. Are any of these REALLY anything to be proud of and make you feel that you’re better than everybody else when compared with the earnings that can be had in other lines of work?

In any line of work the pay differs from poor pay to good pay, there is good pay in this industry. The one’s who are on good pay have most probably been responsible for earning that, by sticking together. If drivers are on a poor rate of pay at a large company, they need to look at themselves first.

sweepster:

Olog Hai:
Those who baffle me are those who feel the need to post their earnings with no provocation, and the glee which follows the proclamation of £12 or whatever per hour, £700 or whatever per week, or £30k or whatever per year. Are any of these REALLY anything to be proud of and make you feel that you’re better than everybody else when compared with the earnings that can be had in other lines of work?

In any line of work the pay differs from poor pay to good pay, there is good pay in this industry. The one’s who are on good pay have most probably been responsible for earning that, by sticking together. If drivers are on a poor rate of pay at a large company, they need to look at themselves first.

your bang on the button, there is a company i know in my area where the drivers are going to go on strike over there conditions, its a fairly large company but its paying its drivers less than 9 quid an hour for days.

i wish them the best of luck and they are a fine example of drivers sticking together, if one loses there job they will all lose there jobs but they know there is so much work around that should they lose there jobs they will never be out of work. so if only others would come to see this. but it has to be a collective effort. but its always been the same in driving, some guys stick there necks out and the others do nothing but hang around hopeing there pay will increase etc for doing nothing at all about it.

if you want better conditiions and pay then you will have to stick your necks out if not dont moan about doing a job for crap money

That’s always better than “the Kit is crap and so is the pay!” :slight_smile:
I know when i started I had a brilliant lorry, you went everywhere in Europe and beyond, but you had to take a bellow than average wage (and had to ask on the month, to make sure you got paid)
It was an experience that i wouldn’t want to have missed for any money in the world, the guy was an absolute cowboy.
Setting speed records on the A1 to be in time to catch the boat in Puttgarden, tachodiscs like frisbees (i pay for the whole tachocard son, so don’t use them half)
It didn’t last long, after 9 month I was forced to take big steps, “we don’t pay expenses son, the telephone cost are included in your hourly rate”.
So ended up driving back from Munich, to ask where i had to back load, he nearly exploded on my explanation, "Listen big boss man, my wife doesn’t give me money to phone you, I don’t phone with my own money, have a diesel card so i just come back, ask where i have to load and drive back to southern Germany.
That was more or less the end of that job.
But had a 141 Scania with all the toys.

After that i ended with lesser jobs, but much better pay, everything comes with a price.

Regarding spending money on a company truck, if you be always away in it (some of us live more in their truck than at home) why not make it a bit to your liking.
Nothing wrong with taking a bit of pride in your equipment, have some comforts and some bling (if that is your thing)
If you are mostly the only driver, why not.
Still for a lot of drivers is it beside work also a hobby, (I think it has to be otherwise you won’t last) who enjoy a nice truck, maybe some lights, curtains who knows.
That doesn’t make you a lesser driver, a lesser person, or silly.

It is not all about pay, yes we all need to pay our bills, but if you go to work with lead in your shoes, hate every minute of the day.
Than you are a person where i feel sorry for, and even £20.00 per hour doesn’t make that better.

I just left a very well paid job, for a job that pays roughly half as much.
But it is my dream job, something what i have looked forward to do for a long time.
And it will make me much happier and much more satisfaction, than any money ever will be able to do.

Think about that when you criticise about the “Crap pay” the “Bling bling and 1000’s lights guys” the blokes who “Sponsor” the boss by paying for stuff on the truck .
Happiness you cannot buy,not for £6.80p/h but not even for £50.- p/h, if above makes you happy, you enjoy the job and/or the truck, who are we to we to judge you?

^^^^^^^Spot on^^^^^^^

sweepster:

Olog Hai:
Those who baffle me are those who feel the need to post their earnings with no provocation, and the glee which follows the proclamation of £12 or whatever per hour, £700 or whatever per week, or £30k or whatever per year. Are any of these REALLY anything to be proud of and make you feel that you’re better than everybody else when compared with the earnings that can be had in other lines of work?

In any line of work the pay differs from poor pay to good pay, there is good pay in this industry. The one’s who are on good pay have most probably been responsible for earning that, by sticking together. If drivers are on a poor rate of pay at a large company, they need to look at themselves first.

I know that, but the point I was making was that what’s often considered ‘good’ money on here for driving a truck would not be thus in other lines of work, and not necessarily the professional, degree-requring sectors. Likewise, some of the lower end figures that are mentioned are forking terrible.

caledoniandream:
That’s always better than “the Kit is crap and so is the pay!” :slight_smile:
I know when i started I had a brilliant lorry, you went everywhere in Europe and beyond, but you had to take a bellow than average wage (and had to ask on the month to make sure you got paid)
It was an experience that i wouldn’t want to have missed for any money in the world, the guy was an absolute cowboy.
Setting speed records on the A8 to be in time to catch the boat in Puttgarden, tachodiscs like frisbees (i pay for the whole tachocard son, so don’t use them half)
It didn’t last long, after 9 month I was forced to take big steps, we don’t pay expenses son, the telephone cost are included in your hourly rate.
so ended up driving back from Munich, to ask where i had to back load, he nearly exploded on my explanation, "Listen big boss man, my wife doesn’t give me money to phone you, I don’t phone with my own money, have a diesel card so i just come back, ask where i have to load and drive back to southern Germany.
That was more or less the end of that job.
But had a 141 Scania with all the toys.
Yours is exactly my thoughts each to their own !!!
After that i ended with lesser jobs, but much better pay, everything comes with a price.

Regarding spending money on a company truck, if you be always away in it (some of us live more in their truck than at home) why not make it a bit to your liking.
Nothing wrong with taking a bit of pride in your equipment, have some comforts and some bling (if that is your thing)
If you are mostly the only driver, why not.
Still for a lot of drivers is it beside work also a hobby, (I think it has to be otherwise you won’t last) who enjoy a nice truck, maybe some lights, curtains who knows.
That doesn’t make you a lesser driver, a lesser person, or silly.

It is not all about pay, yes we all need to pay our bills, but if you go to work with lead in your shoes, hate every minute of the day.
Than you are a person where i feel sorry for, and even £20.00 per hour doesn’t make that better.

I just left a very well paid job, for a job that pays roughly half as much.
But it is my dream job, something what i have looked forward to do for a long time.
And it will make me much happier and much more satisfaction, than any money ever will be able to do.

Think about that when you criticise about the “Crap pay” the “Bling bling and 1000’s lights guys” the blokes who “Sponsor” the boss by paying for stuff on the truck .
Happiness you cannot buy,not for £6.80p/h but not even for £50.- p/h, if above makes you happy, you enjoy the job and/or the truck, who are we to we to judge you?

nothing worse than a name plate in a truck. :open_mouth:

and I don’t get the buy bling to make your bosses vehicles stand out, the pay is irrelevant as most will take the job for the money over the make and model but I would rather a poxy stralis and an extra £100 in my back pocket every week then a v8 scania topline ltd edition mega super cube cab and lose the £100.

but if as Ovlov states its your money and passion and you want to big up the firm then who am I to say it is wrong?

ive said before it all comes down to personal circumstances, ive worked for what most say was crap pay but end of the day take off their expenses in getting to work ect i was actually better off…