The future they have planned for you and why

carryfast-yeti:
you’d be happy to live in a Police state then Robroy? because that’s what this country is becoming,a latter day East Germany.if they get away with vacc passports for night clubs,you’ll end up having your passport checked wherever you go.

Has anyone considered “not bothering to go anywhere” yet?

Imagine the punishment for the Establishment itself - if they cannot continue their cushy taxpayer-paid lifestyles any longer, because the public chooses to lock itself down, rather than be made to wear a mask, or carry a “Covid Passport” which means precisely nothing, because the jabs were placebos at best, or actually medically harmful at worst?

the maoster:
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■■■■■■■■■■ isn’t any threat to me [emoji6]

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DCPCFML:

rearaxle:

robroy:
Wel that’s it then!!
NOT some random driver bloke on a forum gobbing off THEORIES and bizarre opinions, fuelled by biased websites., who KNOWS as much about this in real terms as anybody else, …But a respected and well informed authority and expert on this subject, (not Carryfast this time :smiley: ) has just convinced me and changed my mind.on all this. :open_mouth:

This is not just a rushed through so admittedly maybe risky (a risk I’m WILLING to take btw) actual ‘vaccine’ to prevent you gasping for breath on a ventilator on hospital ward like an asthmatic geriatric with one lung on top of an 18 yr old willing model , …No it’s an experimental gene therapy death sentence…Or whatever he said.
He must be right cos he does a night trunk down the Mi,
I’m just deciding between the paracetomols and a rope on the rafters. : :neutral_face:

If those who are against this are to be ostracized and lynched,.well at least those who are not vocal gob [zb] s who try to lampoon and ridicule those of a different opinion on this are safe, So there aint any on this site that need worry.
Oh hang on a minute. :neutral_face:

The funny thing is robroy, he won’t be far off the mark with it.

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Sadly the quote feature exposes blocked posts so I have his latest guff filling my screen.
As I’ve said before, nothing either ‘side’ says at this point will changes anyone’s minds. Those on the ‘other’ side of the debate have made their choice and now they’ll have to live with the consequences of their actions. As Moaster pointed out above, the spike protein is irreversible. If you get exposed to a foreign virus (hundreds floating around every winter), you no longer have any immune response to fight them. The excessive number of cytokines that are released to try and deal with the virus (but can’t) results in a cytokine storm causing mass inflammation as they flood your body and then you find that you can’t breath and die shortly after. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to save you. The spike protein has basically reprogrammed your DNA.

All those who have had the vax should be doing the right thing and ensuring their will is up to date and funeral arrangements set up and paid for so that their kids and loved ones don’t have to deal with it.

But nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. They just laugh it off as a “conspiracy theory”. Well they won’t be laughing soon.

Won’t be laughing soon…

Can you put a timeline on it?

I’m in rude health. I guess there just aren’t the right viruses about right now.

It’s funny though…we had similar ■■■■■ about the anthrax jab in the military. That was 20 years ago…

Must be slow acting.

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carryfast-yeti:
you’d be happy to live in a Police state then Robroy? because that’s what this country is becoming,a latter day East Germany.if they get away with vacc passports for night clubs,you’ll end up having your passport checked wherever you go.

Gotta love a bit of hysteria.

Let me know when you get shot crossing the border to the Great Tartan theme park

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carryfast-yeti:

robroy:

carryfast-yeti:
you’d be happy to live in a Police state then Robroy? because that’s what this country is becoming,a latter day East Germany.if they get away with vacc passports for night clubs,you’ll end up having your passport checked wherever you go.

No I wouldn’t neither am I responsible nor an apologist for what is or is not going on. :bulb:
So maybe best to aim your question to those who are.

Way I see this is there are 3 choices mate,
1.Come on the internet day after day complaining about this that and the other,.and how we are being made and coerced to do all this stuff, with the hidden agendas and website links thrown in and do absolutely. JACK SH## about it except complain.
Do you think they will even notice or even care if you boycott a pub or any other place where they will bring in this admittedly so bloody wrong new law?

2.Play with the cards you are dealt and try and make the best of a crap situation…which is the one description of this b/s that we all agree on.

3.Put money where mouths are and start up some kind of revolutionary uprising against the government .

I’m going for option 2,.‘make the best of a bad job’ I have found over the years this has often worked for me in life,
Others amongst you can carry on with option 1 on here to your hearts are content if you like, NOTHING will change,.‘‘They’’ will carry on doing whatever tf they like as they have done for generations.

But if you want to take option 3 …the best of luck with that, because we all see in this industry alone how people are so willing to stick together for their rights don’t we. :unamused:
Your call mate.

me? i’m just carrying on as normal robroy,not much i can do… :slight_smile:

Something we agree on so am I. :slight_smile:
Sat in a beer garden looking in amazement an contempt at some of them sat OUTSIDE in their masks. :unamused:

Monkey241:

the maoster:
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■■■■■■■■■■ isn’t any threat to me [emoji6]

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Well that’s ok then, as long as you’re alright.

Monkey241:
Can you put a timeline on it?

It’s already happening. 11k Americans dead from the jabs : openvaers.com/covid-data. And that is only the number that have been reported by doctors as it’s a voluntary reporting system and it’s estimated that only 10% of doctors use it, so the number is most likely significantly higher, quite possibly over 100k, and those are just Americans. You can click the headers and drill down to examine the data if you wish.

I think this winter will see a lot of jabbed people getting very ill and dying (blood clots/heart attacks/myocarditis), particularly so if we’re in a non-locked down state and people are mingling with each other socially and back in the offices. There have been plenty of videos from immunologists and virologists who have spoken about this and they are nearly all agreement that mass deaths will happen anywhere between 6 months and 3 years because of what’s in the shots and what it does to your DNA and immune system.

the maoster:

Monkey241:

the maoster:
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Well that’s ok then, as long as you’re alright.

You miss the point.

But for your info rapists and paedophiles are already subjected to measures which effectively work as a passport.

Your right to choose whether you’re vaccinated or not. You have rights…but so do other people.

I’m a firm believer in rights and responsibilities.
Exercising your rights may limit your choices. In the same way I have a right to break the law…

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DCPCFML:

Monkey241:
Can you put a timeline on it?

It’s already happening. 11k Americans dead from the jabs : openvaers.com/covid-data. And that is only the number that have been reported by doctors as it’s a voluntary reporting system and it’s estimated that only 10% of doctors use it, so the number is most likely significantly higher, quite possibly over 100k, and those are just Americans. You can click the headers and drill down to examine the data if you wish.

I think this winter will see a lot of jabbed people getting very ill and dying (blood clots/heart attacks/myocarditis), particularly so if we’re in a non-locked down state and people are mingling with each other socially and back in the offices. There have been plenty of videos from immunologists and virologists who have spoken about this and they are nearly all agreement that mass deaths will happen anywhere between 6 months and 3 years because of what’s in the shots and what it does to your DNA and immune system.

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It would be interesting to find out who’s pov is in the majority, on a survey.
Do you agree the jab is for what the official line says…a vaccine for Covid
Or
Do you think there is a serious hidden agenda.
Ain’t got a scooby how to set up a survey, so there you go.

As I say,.I do still keep an open mind, but I’ve made my decision and I’ll stick with it.
If there are any repercussions, that was my choice, so…so be it.

Out of interest what are the opinions (of those who subscribe to these theories) on GPs and Doctors in hospitals getting these injections?

(Btw not interested in the ‘Forum Gob ■■■■’ ‘s view as I already know…’'They are ALL thick ■■■■ s :unamused: is the predictable answer) :unamused:

I’m asking the likes of Juddian who puts his points of view across in a polite and educated cincise way in comparison.

Are the general medical profession in on it also as part of this elaborate scheme?
Are they also being conned or are they also duping us?
So are they not really taking the contents of the jabs that the rest of us are, but a placebo to keep up the ‘sham’■■

Orr are they also being duped by whatever body is carrying out this conspiracy of hidden agenda.
I would have thought that those with medical know how would not be easily fooled,
As an example the doctors at the medical centre my daughter works at were all vaccinated by the same stuff…or so it would seem.
So what are your views on that part of it?
Just curious.

I can only give my opinions of what i feel having read and watched what has happened and who has spoken out on either side over this period.
These are my opinions, not sure why i’m bothering but have been asked politely so will respond in kind.
First of all, in my opinion this is not a vaccine in the true sense of the word it works in a completely different way, and it is still under testing until at least 2023, so if i refer to it then it will be as medical treatment.

Doctors and scientists and their messages favoured by the media are allowed to be heard and lauded by that same media.
Those who disagreed or went off message were not just denied access to the mainstream but were subject to being vilified from many sides, including the usual subjects on here.
Those who are favoured by the govt and media tend also to be linked to some extent with the pharmas.
Medical practices are getting paid well to administer treatments, and if my long life has taught me anything its that there’s very few people in this world who can’t be bought, sad fact, many of those who can’t be bought blackmailed or bribed can be found going against the narrative.

Medical profession.
I’m sure if there was freedom of speech in this country that many more would speak out, but the reality is that going against the narrative can and will end up with people losing their jobs, being struck off in the case of doctors, unless they can find another decent source of income that’s one hell of a Damoclesian sword hanging over sometimes a long and hard won career just starting to provide for them.
There’s thouands of medics who are happy to take the treatment and there are thousands who arn’t, but unless one ventures away from the mainstream broadcasters or the social media giants and their censors you won’t hear alternative views because alternative views are not allowed in the mainstream unless as something to be derided or villified with personal attacks against anyone not complying.

Many nurses doctors and others in the profession have not had the medical treatment, maybe they will be forced to do so if they don’t comply again under blackmail of their careers, we’ve seen that care workers are going to be compulsory treated or lose their jobs, for sure this mandatory policy will be expanded as they pick off one group at a time.

The irony of care workers being forced to take it, long after the brutal treatment of so many of the already ill and weakend elderly last year being kicked out of hospital back into care homes, then denied proper medical treatment, so many of them dying without ever being allowed to see or hold their loved ones again is a scandal that should rock the very foundations of our society, but of course our society has for a long time been encouraged to see the elderly as no people, Brexiteers even, better off dead to free up space for others.
We had the surreal scenes of tearful and confused old ladies trapped in care home prisons and our marvelous boys in blue arresting the nurse daughter of one who sprung her mother from prison, sorry, care home…anyone who saw that video i refer to would have been shocked senseless at the behaviour of the harridan wannabe prison warders.

Do you know who i admire? Indians and Asians in general, not only do they respect their elders as one should but they don’t usually farm their elders off into so called care homes, they look after them just as they looked after their elders when they were younger, i’ve always said we could learn a hell of a lot from the Asian community, not just that but the Muslims especially don’t tend to take kindly to having their children indoctrinated with various ■■■■■■ fashions at schools or elswhere and i don’t blame them, they protest big time and they have my admiration and full agreement in doing so.

The whole thing has stunk from day 1.
I do not trust the medical treatment on offer, it’s too convenient has apparently been produced in record time and in record production numbers from nothing, well i ain’t buying it.
This is nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with control and full surveillance of people.
There is growing evidence of bad reactions to the treatment, especially with the younger folk, two young women my daughter works with are constantly menstruating weeks after taking it, but why the heel were they taking it in the first place, being in their 20s their own brilliant immune systems would have kicked three pails out of the convids had they even known they’d caught it.
Don’t get me started on ever younger children being targetted for treatment, i cannot say here my opinion of anyone who allows their under 18’s to be treated.

I don’t know if this satisfies anyone, as said it’s my opinion, i’ve thought something was very wrong from the beginning of this with those Chinese bad farce videos and nothing since has changed my mind.

got to go, dogs need walking…wonder how long before they come for our pets?

Been produced in record time…

Given that most of the base research had already been completed that’s slightly inaccurate.

A misrepresentation…then add to this little nugget that research was shared and assets focused in a manner that perhaps only a pandemic triggers, I think you have to work hard to see anything suspicious there.

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Have to say the previous post to mine is a masterclass in paranoia.

Such folk demand their rights and opinions be respected whilst dropping heaps of ordure on those who hold an opposing view.

Let me know when they come for your pets.

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Monkey241:
Have to say the previous post to mine is a masterclass in paranoia.

Such folk demand their rights and opinions be respected whilst dropping heaps of ordure on those who hold an opposing view.

Let me know when they come for your pets.

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Tbf it was ME who ASKED for Juddian’s opinion on that point.
I had been talking to a Doctor about this who had the jab himself, along with his wife.
This guy is a respected family man in the area, who could never be described as gullible.
He was adamant that in his honest opinion this vaccine was a genuine entity, that both he and his wife have both had, he admitted it had been rushed through, but as far as he was aware (which he said he was) all the checks had been done to the usual criteria, albeit quicker than usual.
He’s either part of the conspiracy agenda and a bloody good and convincing liar, or he’s deluded and easily conned, or he genuinely has the belief that he stated.
Who knows eh?

As I’ve said to Juddian before me and him are wayyyyy off on this stuff, black and white in fact.
As usual he has answered in a constructive discussion type context, in direct comparison to the other clown who just writes off everybody who does not agree with him as stupid, calling them infantile names as if he has some kind of superior inside knowledge (he hasn’t it’s his pov and opinion based on what he hears and reads just like the rest of us. :bulb: ) which achieves nothing,.and definitely does not offer an incentive to see his point… if in fact that us what he is trying to achieve.

This thread is a bit like the Brexit thread, those at both ends of the spectrum, and those somewhere in between, nobody is ever going to change their opinions based on which opinion of which truck driver they choose to support, so I reckon I’ll just bow out of it now as a contributor, and just dip in and out to read it.
Cheers.

robroy:

Monkey241:
Have to say the previous post to mine is a masterclass in paranoia.

Such folk demand their rights and opinions be respected whilst dropping heaps of ordure on those who hold an opposing view.

Let me know when they come for your pets.

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Tbf it was ME who ASKED for Juddian’s opinion on that point.
I had been talking to a Doctor about this who had the jab himself, along with his wife.
This guy is a respected family man in the area, who could never be described as gullible.
He was adamant that in his honest opinion this vaccine was a genuine entity, that both he and his wife have both had, he admitted it had been rushed through, but as far as he was aware (which he said he was) all the checks had been done to the usual criteria, albeit quicker than usual.
He’s either part of the conspiracy agenda and a bloody good and convincing liar, or he’s deluded and easily conned, or he genuinely has the belief that he stated.
Who knows eh?

As I’ve said to Juddian before me and him are wayyyyy off on this stuff, black and white in fact.
As usual he has answered in a constructive discussion type context, in direct comparison to the other clown who just writes off everybody who does not agree with him as stupid, calling them infantile names as if he has some kind of superior inside knowledge (he hasn’t it’s his pov and opinion based on what he hears and reads just like the rest of us. :bulb: ) which achieves nothing,.and definitely does not offer an incentive to see his point… if in fact that us what he is trying to achieve.

This thread is a bit like the Brexit thread, those at both ends of the spectrum, and those somewhere in between, nobody is ever going to change their opinions based on which opinion of which truck driver they choose to support, so I reckon I’ll just bow out of it now as a contributor, and just dip in and out to read it.
Cheers.

His opinion on it being rushed through doesn’t constitute a conspiracy theory to my mind.

The AZ pioneers are on record as saying that research into the corona group of viruses was quite advanced meaning the building clocks to unravel CV19 were already in place

Add to that the idea that the world and his dog directed pretty much everything at developing a jab and we have an accelerated research programme.

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Juddian:
not sure why i’m bothering

And right on cue the accusations of being a conspiracy theorist (directly and indirectly) have followed. Let them be. Nothing you say will divert them away from their path to the slaughterhouse. They can’t say they weren’t warned. Why should we care anymore? We have tried to help them but [zb] em now.

DCPCFML:
Why should we care anymore? We have tried to help them but [zb] em now.

I said I wouldn’t add any more to this thread, but after reading that I felt compelled to do an encore.

Just to say as a self appointed spokesman for us ‘‘sheeple’’ who have all been ‘‘stabbed’’ who only have up to 3 years to live because of it…

From the very heart of our bottoms,…A large THANK YOU for all your benevolence and concern, and as you say in your own words, ‘‘Help’’ and ‘‘Care’’ for us quote…‘‘All thick ■■■■■’’.
May God have mercy on our poor souls as we head for the …‘‘slaughterhouse’’.

Nice to have someone so caring trying to guide us inferiors.

Farewell kind soul keep up the selfless good work.

robroy:

DCPCFML:
Why should we care anymore? We have tried to help them but [zb] em now.

I said I wouldn’t add any more to this thread, but after reading that I felt compelled to do an encore.

Just to say as a self appointed spokesman for us ‘‘sheeple’’ who have all been ‘‘stabbed’’ who only have up to 3 years to live because of it…

From the very heart of our bottoms,…A large THANK YOU for all your benevolence and concern, and as you say in your own words, ‘‘Help’’ and ‘‘Care’’ for us quote…‘‘All thick [zb]’’.
May God have mercy on our poor souls as we head for the …‘‘slaughterhouse’’.

Nice to have someone so caring trying to guide us inferiors.

Farewell kind soul keep up the selfless good work.

Really RR?

robroy:
Sat in a beer garden looking in amazement an contempt at some of them sat OUTSIDE in their masks.

You rightly, (so long as it doesnt affect others) want your choices and decisions respected, but when others make a different choice to you, [u]which doesnt affect you at all[/u], you look on with “contempt”?

Jeez I’m making more comebacks than the Stones on here
Ok mate, I’ll humour your usual argumentative for the sake if it stance mate :unamused: .

I’ve made no secret Franglais that I ain’t (as you are) an unquestionable serial conformist
I’ve never believed in masks and I can’t be arsed to say AGAIN on here why I took to wearing a one, (if you’re THAT interested scroll back) or in my case a snood as I did not want to be confused with the brainwashed or look a complete and utter prick.

I was referring to those idiots not only still wearing one of those things after it was stopped being ‘‘compulsory’’ in a pub…but sat outside in the open air.
So yeh, contempt was my choice of words that I stand by.
If you’re implying I’m sounding like whatever he calls himself on here this time, that’s your opinion that you are fully entitled to.

Anything else so I can retire from this thread?

Here’s something to think about. I’m guessing that most of us on here have already lived the greater part of our lives and are either in retirement, or approaching it. For most of us, we want a bit of relaxation and time to spend doing the things that working long hours for all those years prevented us from doing. So if, as some tell us, the majority of the adult population of the world (not just this country) will be dead within the next three years, what will life be like for those who chose not to participate in the mass slaughter of humanity? (This also includes the under-18s who didn’t qualify for a jab). Will there be enough people left with the skill and experience needed to run and maintain the essential services, keeping the survivors supplied with power, water, food and fuel? Who will look after the sick and injured, and keep survivors safe from marauding gangs of thieves and killers when law and order breaks down? Someone will have to be able to train those youngsters to run what’s left of the world and prevent a total collapse of any kind of civilised society, or we will be straight back to primitive times where it’s every man for himself, and only the strong will survive in a barren wasteland. I reckon that if this scenario does play out, those of us who have had the jabs will be the lucky ones.