Evening Gentlemen, heaven, its pouring with rain, just what we need. [ZB], I think that you must be right about Be-Ge, would be interested to learn more, as what you say would tie in with the outward looking stance of Scania, from really the mid fifties. (South America, Holland Zwole, etc). Regarding the “odd” screen example, yes Hugglund did produce bus bodies with similar windscreens, but so did we at Saviem on some of the very early SC models, and that integral van of Gorettes, (taken me all day to remember the name, I`m getting old)! was certainly bodied by Veth&Zn, Ven Rijswijk, so perhaps the complete assembly was a “bought in” item. Andrew, (Pete359), you are right, the Krupp screen is very similar, so we have four matches , Van Hool, Be-Ge, Krupp, and possibly Mercedes, so someone had a volume order for windscreens, did they all pay the same price?? Belgium was a fascinating market in the 70s, everyone was , or had been there. Near my digs in Antwerp was an operator with a beautiful coachbuilt sleeper cab Foden, fitted with an 8LW Gardner. There were still a few Brossels with Leyland, (both their parent and executioner), diesels, Krupp Atkinsons, Willemes, with AEC and Detroit as well as their own engines, Hanomags, Bussings, and I regularly used to see a smart fleet of 8x4 half cab Foden concrete mixers, plus copius quantities of Bedfords. I remember lots of L &LS Scanias, but I do not remember the LV! Oh, and those ugly DAFs, but a lot wore smart coachbuilt cabs by Cottard, and Pelpel. Incidentally, Cottard supplied a trial cab to Mack, made a really handsome lorry, but Mack ended up using the Motor Panels cab,and gave it a front panel that made it possibly the ugliest lorry ever sold, (and they sold a few), in Europe! Are those LVs still at Rush Green, I presume the mechanics were as the L & LS. Bubbs picture of the W&M Wood 76 reminded me of my friend John Ball who drove a 76 for them, and I think bought one off them to start on M/E, around 72ish. Was it Cy Gran who ran Woods, or was that Incotrans, and do I recollect something about Chinese hair, for Nigerian dreadlocks? Funny how the old memories flow is it not. Very smart 76s were those of J&H from Peckham, and the really smart ones from John and Vivian Davies, Gorsinon. Ah well, I think that I shall retire, and study the world through a nice bottle of chilled Bollinger, and see where my memory takes me, Cheerio for now mes amis.