The wiper linkage was always popping out of sync on the 110.
harry:
The wiper linkage was always popping out of sync on the 110.
You are right with that one Harry. If it was lashing down you never put the wipers on high speed or you could guarentee they would fall apart.
Cliff
Yea the wipers work fine.
But these days and I’m sure a lot of the retired drivers on here would agree you don’t drive trucks now you just guide them. Auto boxes and cruise control took all the pleasure out of it so my father keeps telling me.
Your father probably tells you that roping& sheeting in a blizzard is good fun as well ? Don’t believe him. My first truck had cable brakes,V8 petrol engine & a starting handle - a heap of crap ,in fact. My last truck was 44t auto box with whistles - superb machine to work with,except for the speed control. The old 'uns will also tell you that beer is not the same as the old days, they’re right- beer down South was bilge water,
harry:
Your father probably tells you that roping& sheeting in a blizzard is good fun as well ? Don’t believe him. My first truck had cable brakes,V8 petrol engine & a starting handle - a heap of crap ,in fact. My last truck was 44t auto box with whistles - superb machine to work with,except for the speed control. The old 'uns will also tell you that beer is not the same as the old days, they’re right- beer down South was bilge water,
Oddly enough he never mentioned them.
Memory Lane is so selective. Count your blessings.
The first brand new scania I saw was back in 64 Parked up in Wm Nuttalls yard Swinton M/c it had been left by Scania on demo but it was never used by Nuttalls at all. It was a bright pink unit . on the front in big letters was Scania Varbis, I think that was the name of Scania at the beginning
Nuttalls only run Atkinson units with the 150 gardener engine in those days though they ran a fleet of mixted rigid moters, They bought out several compnies in the 60’s in cluding the company I worked for Wm Gee’s transport of Bury in 63. it was around this time i saw the scania varbis in the yard.
one of the companies they bought out had a scammel unit this beast had a gate change gearbox what a thing to drive you had to go through every gear all the way up and down the box, if you stopped it in gear that was it what a job to get in in nutural
with Nuttalls I got to drive every make of truck on the road and what a experience that was. naming just a few here Teames Trader, Dodge AEC Leyland, Forden. ERF, Scammel, Ford, Bedford TK, yes those where the days
around May 63 I was in the office and old man Nut came out and said to me “can you drive an artic” I said “No” his reply was " nows your chance to learn" “take 2921 TF to M/C Docks and load it” I told him I was not old enough to drive it untill August, he said well you look 21 take it and take your time driving there,
so I went out into the yard, asked another driver how to pick up a trialer, he showed me and off I went to the docks, to load with ingots of copper, At the dock I had to back down the Quey side which was a long way to back up. after about 50 attemps a driver from BRS came up to me and said would you like me to back it up to the ships side for you I said "Yes Please " so he did and also helped me to load,
After I loaded he took me to the timber stock yard on the docks and give me lessons after about 2 hour he left me but told me to keep practissing on my own, I did and by the time I got back to the yard I could put that trailer anywhere.
I met this driver several months later at the sunset cafe on my way to wolverhamton this time I had the chance to buy him a breakfast
Carling:
around May 63 I was in the office and old man Nut came out and said to me “can you drive an artic” I said “No” his reply was " nows your chance to learn" “take 2921 TF to M/C Docks and load it” I told him I was not old enough to drive it untill August, he said well you look 21 take it and take your time driving there,
That was almost exactly my introduction to artics, except in my case the boss came to me on Saturday morning and told me to take an artic home for the weekend to practice and then to tip at Liverpool docks on Monday.
Fortunately I didn’t need a BRS driver to show me, but I know that help was never far from hand in those days.
Salut, David.
That wasn’t a Scania you saw in '64 Carling. It was a Scania Vabis. Round nosed and a fine motor.
Soon after '64, Scania dropped the Vabis bit at the same time as they introduced the Scania 110 to the world. What a motor!
I had the first one in the UK. Reg. was OTR 68F. Big article in Commercial Motor. It had a separate lever for the splitter, about the same length and size as the gear change.
I was on for Robin Colenso’s Eurohaul in Southampton as their first driver. Within a couple of months we had our second, a 6x4, for abnormal loads. The driver was Alan Hill from Taunton who had been driving for Taunton Meat Haulage. His had the little rocker switch for the splitter.
I drove mine for a couple of years on more or less fulltime Italy. As a small firm, we subbed an awful lot of our work off Jamesons of Southampton.
Things got a bit “heavy” with a girl who worked on one of the ferrys and I had to scarper back to the fishing out of Newhaven, just to get away.
Well, I was single at the time and fancy free!!!
rexyu. We have probably met if you were one of Colenzo`s drivers. I used to use Sotton Le Harve with Malta Cross. We stopped when the dockers got stroppy & insisted on driving the trucks on the ferry. I remember your left ■■■■■■ pulling a low loader all bashed up on the dockside where the docker dope had hit a huge concrete block. He had damaged the nearside of the truck as well as the trailer. This is with the real driver having to sit in the passenger seat and watch his truck being destroyed. Later I had a go with SCA as well.
rexyu:
That wasn’t a Scania you saw in '64 Carling. It was a Scania Vabis. Round nosed and a fine motor.Soon after '64, Scania dropped the Vabis bit at the same time as they introduced the Scania 110 to the world. What a motor!
I had the first one in the UK. Reg. was OTR 68F. Big article in Commercial Motor. It had a separate lever for the splitter, about the same length and size as the gear change.
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Hmmm - Ray Hingley’s preserved motor NGK 3D was reckoned to be the first in the U.K., and Bowker’s of Blackburn had some E-reg ones. Bill Bowker was hooked on them after seeing one working for British Ropes at Doncaster
I wouldn’t argue with that 240. You are obviously confident that mine wasn’t the first 110 in the UK.
It’s a long time ago now. Over 40 years. It might be that mine was the first sleeper cabbed left-■■■■■■ in the UK and it certainly did produce quite a spread in Commercial Motor.
No big deal, anyway
harry:
rexyu. We have probably met if you were one of Colenzo`s drivers. I used to use Sotton Le Harve with Malta Cross. We stopped when the dockers got stroppy & insisted on driving the trucks on the ferry. I remember your left ■■■■■■ pulling a low loader all bashed up on the dockside where the docker dope had hit a huge concrete block. He had damaged the nearside of the truck as well as the trailer. This is with the real driver having to sit in the passenger seat and watch his truck being destroyed. Later I had a go with SCA as well.
Harry,
Yes, I remember those poxy dockers. The accident you recall must have been after I left Eurohaul, 'cos I never let any docker drive mine. I remember it was threatened that that was gooing to happen, but we told them it wouldn’t. Must have done in the end, I suppose.
Colenso got very big in the end, didn’t he. Seem to remember that he was running about 1200 trailers in the end, before he went pop. I remember seeing them around. Terrible state most of them were in.
Good bloke to work for actually, Always treated me fine. Went ■■■■ up for about 3 million I beleive. Not before he had squirrelled enough away for a big house in the New Forest and an aeroplane.
rexyu:
I wouldn’t argue with that 240. You are obviously confident that mine wasn’t the first 110 in the UK.It’s a long time ago now. Over 40 years. It might be that mine was the first sleeper cabbed left-■■■■■■ in the UK and it certainly did produce quite a spread in Commercial Motor.
No big deal, anyway
240 was referring to the first Scania Vabis LB76, not the first Scania 110
LGK 3D was (and very much still is) a Scania Vabis, not a 110, so there’s every possibility that your claim is valid.
rexyu. I only met Robin once but he had some of the best trucks on the road.His drivers liked him but his rivals hated him. Do you remember Roger Pliska.? Fret Italia…?
An article in CM of July 19 1968 featured what was claimed to be the first Scania 110 on the road in the UK, operated by Pentus Brown of Leighton Buzzard and was due to go on the road that very Friday pulling a Boden tri-axe with twins all round.I presume this is the same one that appeared in Scania brochures of the time which also featured 76 models operated by British Ropes.
Scania expected the most popular spec to be as with the 76, which was turbo engine ,10 speed splitter and double reduction back end ,all for £4850, around 55 grand at todays prices.
The first Scania I saw was either a 110 operated by Jamesons who had a depot at Heywood,or a 76 6x2 belonging to RAH out of Teeside pulling one of those skelly type trailers with a load of steel beams. Some years later I worked with an ex-Ancliffes driver who one day casually mentioned what I had read in CM about drivers squaring up to each other over who was having the Scania and who ws having the Atki.
As someone has said, its along time ago now. I was 12 then and now I’ve just passed mi second medical!!! and climbing into a Scania 5 nights a week doesnt seem as attractive as it did then.
The first 110 sleeper that I ever saw was stuck in traffic head and shoulders above everything else on Watling Street. It was a left ■■■■■■ with Danish plates. I was coming in the other direction driving a three axle rigid Dodge with a perkins engine…I had seen the Future…& it looked good. Now there is a lack of quality in the build in Scanias, unless other trucks are built better these days? Of course in the old days ,Scanias were built in Sweden. Sammy Williams used to run Scania Vabis & they could really shift.
All these blokes who had the first Scania must be the same blokes who missed the Herald of Free Enterprise by 10 minutes There are more who missed it then the ferry could hold.
A company near to me also had the first 110 in the UK, they also had the first 140, 141, 142 and Daf 2600
Waudby and Sons of North Cave were in all the transport press at the time
marky:
rexyu:
I wouldn’t argue with that 240. You are obviously confident that mine wasn’t the first 110 in the UK.It’s a long time ago now. Over 40 years. It might be that mine was the first sleeper cabbed left-■■■■■■ in the UK and it certainly did produce quite a spread in Commercial Motor.
No big deal, anyway
240 was referring to the first Scania Vabis LB76, not the first Scania 110
LGK 3D was (and very much still is) a Scania Vabis, not a 110, so there’s every possibility that your claim is valid.
Indeed so! Apologies for the confusion! I thought you were referring to the LB76. Marky will correct me if wrong, but weren’t the early 110’s also badged as Scania-Vabis?
No, Scania had dropped the name “Vabis” with the introduction of the 110.