Winseer:
If Boris has got any sense, he’ll hand over power to Theresa May for coronation instead of himself, and ask Osbourne to disappear from number 11 - a job that Boris should probably do for himself.
Theresa May as PM should placate the remainers, Osbourne being gone should placate the brexiteers,
Why would we need to ‘placate’ the remainers with an at best remain leaning PM bearing in mind they lost remember.Instead of forcing Cameron to go now and putting David Davis in his place.Oh wait Davis was on the real leave side as part of GO.The same applies in the case of Hoey v Corbyn.
On that note as I said elsewhere.What odds that the whole cluster zb is a scam in which the establishment somehow ended up with a result it never intended and now has no intention of implementing and which won’t be implemented.
Carryfast:
Winseer:
If Boris has got any sense, he’ll hand over power to Theresa May for coronation instead of himself, and ask Osbourne to disappear from number 11 - a job that Boris should probably do for himself.
Theresa May as PM should placate the remainers, Osbourne being gone should placate the brexiteers,
Why would we need to ‘placate’ the remainers with an at best remain leaning PM bearing in mind they lost remember.Instead of forcing Cameron to go now and putting David Davis in his place.Oh wait Davis was on the real leave side as part of GO.The same applies in the case of Hoey v Corbyn.
On that note as I said elsewhere.What odds that the whole cluster zb is a scam in which the establishment somehow ended up with a result it never intended and now has no intention of implementing and which won’t be implemented.
You finally seem to have a basic grasp of how politics work. Regardless of the government’s -ist leanings. They do as they plan, and humour you by pretending you have a say in matters by letting you vote once in a while.
The key as to whether the country survives for future generations will be the recognition that Nationalist means left not right and certainly not ■■■■.While it remains in massive peril of demographic and socialist takeover if it doesn’t realise that and do something about the immigration issue.
Carryfast you are a ****** hypocrite!
So you now say we should be left wing, slightly but not enough to be socialist?
I said exactly that previously as in “slightly left of centre” and got targeted by you as wanting us to become communist. WTF!!!
Surely left of centre, ie for the workers is a form of socialism or is there a band grading I’m unaware of?
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Why should Cameron have resigned straightaway?
Surely a summer holiday paid at PM rate is better for him than backbencher rate!
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Winseer:
Looooo:
Winseer:
Resistance of the result - is what’s causing most of the damage right now.
Nonsense. The complete lack of a plan and power vacuum caused by inevitable Cameron exit is what is causing the damage.
The dithering because even the Brexiters didn’t think it’d happen is what is making us look ridiculous in the world’s eyes
I am only pleased it didn’t go to Remain by 52%. In that case we’d have all the swivel eyed loons out in the streets with pitchforks claiming the result had been rigged, led by Carryfast at the front with his tinfoil crown on. 
I agree the Cameron resignation has a lot to do with it as well - but it’s just one of many factors.
Cameron should either have stayed, or resigned straight away. Giving three months bloody notice just chucks a hand grenade into the house of commons as it stands.
The Tories don’t have the leader they need to implement Brexit quickly - and thus we must ALL now suffer the downsides of Brexit - with none of the upsides realizeable until we’ve got it all sorted out.
If Boris has got any sense, he’ll hand over power to Theresa May for coronation instead of himself, and ask Osbourne to disappear from number 11 - a job that Boris should probably do for himself.
Theresa May as PM should placate the remainers, Osbourne being gone should placate the brexiteers, and Boris being subservient to it all - should placate everyone else.
I’m thinking “any attempt to do it the other way around” is probably going to fall flat, and then start up a lengthy leadership contest that won’t be resolved in time to prevent further downsides to the economy during the now “extended period of uncertainty”. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihY7F0fruR4
i wouldn’t want that hag may running the country, now she is for removing our rights make no mistake about it with crap like the proposed IP bill
Munchkin:
The key as to whether the country survives for future generations will be the recognition that Nationalist means left not right and certainly not ■■■■.While it remains in massive peril of demographic and socialist takeover if it doesn’t realise that and do something about the immigration issue.
Carryfast you are a ****** hypocrite!
So you now say we should be left wing, slightly but not enough to be socialist?
I said exactly that previously as in “slightly left of centre” and got targeted by you as wanting us to become communist. WTF!!!
Surely left of centre, ie for the workers is a form of socialism or is there a band grading I’m unaware of?
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Don’t feed him. He can’t keep a straight line, because he hasn’t got one. He copies big words from Wikipedia, but doesn’t understand them.
Aye, but it’s fun !
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Munchkin:
Aye, but it’s fun !
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You know it’s naughty, but you can’t help yourself. … 
the nodding donkey:
Munchkin:
The key as to whether the country survives for future generations will be the recognition that Nationalist means left not right and certainly not ■■■■.While it remains in massive peril of demographic and socialist takeover if it doesn’t realise that and do something about the immigration issue.
Carryfast you are a ****** hypocrite!
So you now say we should be left wing, slightly but not enough to be socialist?
I said exactly that previously as in “slightly left of centre” and got targeted by you as wanting us to become communist. WTF!!!
Surely left of centre, ie for the workers is a form of socialism or is there a band grading I’m unaware of?
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Don’t feed him. He can’t keep a straight line, because he hasn’t got one. He copies big words from Wikipedia, but doesn’t understand them.
I’m guessing that,unlike mine,‘your’ idea of ‘left’ of anywhere didn’t mean ‘Nationalist’.Although feel free to correct me if I’m wrong on that. So are you saying that the French FN are left or right ?.If you’re saying that it’s the latter then define your idea of ‘left’.I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.
Why are you guessing my politics, I told you already?
I’m saying you’re an argumentative, hypocritic, over opinionated keyboard warrior. Were you out canvassing pre Referendum, standing toe to toe and argueing it out with Remainers since you’re so well informed and persuasive?
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Sorry CF, I forgot rude and obnoxious. Wouldn’t want to undersell you !!
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Munchkin:
Why are you guessing my politics, I told you already?
I’m saying you’re an argumentative, hypocritic, over opinionated keyboard warrior. Were you out canvassing pre Referendum, standing toe to toe and argueing it out with Remainers since you’re so well informed and persuasive?
I didn’t ask you what your politics were.I asked you where would you define Nationalist on a scale of left v right and if right what is your exact ‘definition’ of ‘left’ ( or for that matter ‘right’ ).
As for canvassing you do know it was mostly an opposing leaflet campaign with Leave having to fund itself unlike the state funded mostly postal delivery remain campaign.On that note yes I did my bit both with plenty of delivery rounds and representing leave at a local polling station.All that in the knowledge that it was always going to be a remain stronghold in which we at least held the line sufficiently for our strongholds to beat the remainers.Although that isn’t obviously how they see it having managed to turn 52/48 into 50/50 and thereby calling for a re match which Cameron is probably playing for time to provide them with. 
Munchkin:
Sorry CF, I forgot rude and obnoxious. Wouldn’t want to undersell you !!
Feel free to add more if that’s the best argument for remain you can provide.
Well the German car industry are shouting for us to get a no barrier free trade deal. Let’s hope the negotiators stand firm and don’t accept free movement. We have the upper hand
OVLOV JAY:
Well the German car industry are shouting for us to get a no barrier free trade deal. Let’s hope the negotiators stand firm and don’t accept free movement. We have the upper hand
why some think that we need a single market agreement , we actually don’t, the EU needs us more than we need it, definitely no uncontrolled free movement as that doesn’t benefit us
tommy t:
OVLOV JAY:
Well the German car industry are shouting for us to get a no barrier free trade deal. Let’s hope the negotiators stand firm and don’t accept free movement. We have the upper hand
why some think that we need a single market agreement , we actually don’t, the EU needs us more than we need it, definitely no uncontrolled free movement as that doesn’t benefit us
+1
No free movement.
Bilateral rights to impose tarrifs to maintain trade balance in the case of trade deficit.
Cuts in our EU oil exports to increase supply in the domestic market,to maintain a pump price guaranteed at 10% lower than the EU average.Possibly lower when EU VAT revenues are subtracted. 
Carryfast:
tommy t:
OVLOV JAY:
Well the German car industry are shouting for us to get a no barrier free trade deal. Let’s hope the negotiators stand firm and don’t accept free movement. We have the upper hand
why some think that we need a single market agreement , we actually don’t, the EU needs us more than we need it, definitely no uncontrolled free movement as that doesn’t benefit us
+1
No free movement and bilateral rights to impose tarrifs to maintain trade balance in the case of trade deficit and cuts in our EU oil exports to increase supply in the domestic market to maintain a pump price guaranteed at 10% lower than the EU average .
See, if you would use some simple punctuation, that might become comprehensible. As it is,you are once again stringing as many big words that you don’t quite understand together, resulting in a garbled rant without any reason.
the nodding donkey:
Carryfast:
tommy t:
OVLOV JAY:
Well the German car industry are shouting for us to get a no barrier free trade deal. Let’s hope the negotiators stand firm and don’t accept free movement. We have the upper hand
why some think that we need a single market agreement , we actually don’t, the EU needs us more than we need it, definitely no uncontrolled free movement as that doesn’t benefit us
+1
No free movement and bilateral rights to impose tarrifs to maintain trade balance in the case of trade deficit and cuts in our EU oil exports to increase supply in the domestic market to maintain a pump price guaranteed at 10% lower than the EU average .
See, if you would use some simple punctuation, that might become comprehensible. As it is,you are once again stringing as many big words that you don’t quite understand together, resulting in a garbled rant without any reason.
No I’m sure it’s you who doesn’t understand that shopping list of demands or don’t want to understand.I’ll edit so even you can’t quibble about what I’ve written there.
Carryfast:
the nodding donkey:
Carryfast:
tommy t:
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No free movement and bilateral rights to impose tarrifs to maintain trade balance in the case of trade deficit and cuts in our EU oil exports to increase supply in the domestic market to maintain a pump price guaranteed at 10% lower than the EU average .
See, if you would use some simple punctuation, that might become comprehensible. As it is,you are once again stringing as many big words that you don’t quite understand together, resulting in a garbled rant without any reason.
No I’m sure it’s you who doesn’t understand that shopping list of demands or don’t want to understand.I’ll edit so even you can’t quibble about what I’ve written there.
See, it’s not that hard. Most phones and computers actually do most of it for you. Unless you are pretending that you are standing on a barricade somewhere, shouting out your soundbites to whip up the crowd.
And I’m not even starting about your garbage about oil and fuel prices…
the nodding donkey:
And I’m not even starting about your garbage about oil and fuel prices…
As you’ve obviously got a personal agenda which is different to our national interest that’s not surprising.