DonutUK:
And if you believe that is going to disappear if we vote leave then you are more deluded than those believing someone is rubbing the votes out!
At this years GE in South Thanet it took the electoral boxes 8 hours to reach the count - that’s 8 hours to get from South Thanet to Margate when the allotted time was two hours and all the other constituencies managed it. The police investigation found there was “no evidence” of malpractice . . . surprise, surprise!
Never underestimate the Establishments desire to get their own way.
DonutUK:

Imagine the Rabbit is our economy, NHS, workers rights, international credibility etc…the guy is Boris Johnson, and the bat is a Brexit result…get the picture?
Imagine the rabbit is UK unions and workers’ rights and the bat is a vote which helps this Europhile hag into power.Just like her modern day counterpart Cameron.Workers’ rights you’re avin a laugh.
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International credibility in the eyes of zb Juncker and Obama you mean.
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Stanley Knife:
DonutUK:
And if you believe that is going to disappear if we vote leave then you are more deluded than those believing someone is rubbing the votes out!
At this years GE in South Thanet it took the electoral boxes 8 hours to reach the count - that’s 8 hours to get from South Thanet to Margate when the allotted time was two hours and all the other constituencies managed it. The police investigation found there was “no evidence” of malpractice . . . surprise, surprise!
Never underestimate the Establishments desire to get their own way.
Realistically the argument between nation v federation is never going to be settled by democratic process.On that note the remainers are dreaming if they think that almost half the electorate will bow down to Junker’s EU rule over it now or ever.
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Deluded xenophobic rubbish…designed to ensare the bigoted and feeble minded…
Exactly the sort of crap that got an MP murdered…
DonutUK:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Deluded xenophobic rubbish…designed to ensare the bigoted and feeble minded…
Exactly the sort of crap that got an MP murdered…
What part of it was xenophobic?
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sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Unfortunately the inconvenient facts of Edward 1 st’s army rampaging across Ireland and Scotland and the Irish uprising of 1916-20 and the events in Slovenia and Croatia in 1991,prove that when push comes to shove,the argument between Nation v Federation is rarely if ever,as simple as that.IE Federalism is rarely bothered about any type of democratic process that isn’t in the interests of the Federation as opposed to the interests of the self determination of the Nation.Everything in this case suggest karma as payback for the wrongs of and committed by the UK federation.

DonutUK:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Deluded xenophobic rubbish…designed to ensare the bigoted and feeble minded…
Bigot’s historically don’t come much more bigoted than controlling dictatorial zb Soviet Federalist Socialists like Altiero Spinelli or for that matter Stalin or Tito. 
DonutUK:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Deluded xenophobic rubbish…designed to ensare the bigoted and feeble minded…
Exactly the sort of crap that got an MP murdered…
The bloke only mentioned immigration in the positive ffs. You remainers can’t just throw around defamatory words just because someone disagrees with your idiology. Or if you insist, at least consult a dictionary so you know what you’re calling someone, or you just come off, well, like a ■■■■■ 
Carryfast:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Unfortunately the inconvenient facts of Edward 1 st’s army rampaging across Ireland and Scotland and the Irish uprising of 1916-20 and the events in Slovenia and Croatia in 1991,prove that when push comes to shove,the argument between Nation v Federation is rarely if ever,as simple as that.IE Federalism is rarely bothered about any type of democratic process that isn’t in the interests of the Federation as opposed to the interests of the self determination of the Nation.Everything in this case suggest karma as payback for the wrongs of and committed by the UK federation.

Indeed the idea of nation vs federation is never simple and yes what Federation wants, Federation gets ultimately . But in all of them “battles” of nation vs federation there where and are those who stood against it. Continue to stand against it.
This isn’t down to the actions of England when raiding Ireland, Scotland and Wales. No this is purely down to the EU wanting total dominance of the UK.
They will get it as well.
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OVLOV JAY:
DonutUK:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Deluded xenophobic rubbish…designed to ensare the bigoted and feeble minded…
Exactly the sort of crap that got an MP murdered…
The bloke only mentioned immigration in the positive ffs. You remainers can’t just throw around defamatory words just because someone disagrees with your idiology. Or if you insist, at least consult a dictionary so you know what you’re calling someone, or you just come off, well, like a ■■■■■ 
Thank you
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DonutUK:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Deluded xenophobic rubbish…designed to ensare the bigoted and feeble minded…
Exactly the sort of crap that got an MP murdered…
Well done, you really got your point across! 
If you are resorting to insults, you’re not winning pal…
sinclair89:
Carryfast:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Unfortunately the inconvenient facts of Edward 1 st’s army rampaging across Ireland and Scotland and the Irish uprising of 1916-20 and the events in Slovenia and Croatia in 1991,prove that when push comes to shove,the argument between Nation v Federation is rarely if ever,as simple as that.IE Federalism is rarely bothered about any type of democratic process that isn’t in the interests of the Federation as opposed to the interests of the self determination of the Nation.Everything in this case suggest karma as payback for the wrongs of and committed by the UK federation.

Indeed the idea of nation vs federation is never simple and yes what Federation wants, Federation gets ultimately . But in all of them “battles” of nation vs federation there where and are those who stood against it. Continue to stand against it.
This isn’t down to the actions of England when raiding Ireland, Scotland and Wales. No this is purely down to the EU wanting total dominance of the UK.
They will get it as well.
It wasn’t ‘England’ that ‘raided’ Ireland and Scotland.It was a Franco Norman invasive Federalist agenda that took out ‘England’ too. 
While the examples of Slovenia and Croatia in 1991 and the Irish uprising of 1916-20 show that ‘the Federation’ doesn’t always get ‘what it it wants’.While what they do prove,as usual,is that the argument between Nation v Federation has rarely been shown to be settled amicably or democratically.There’s no reason to think that secession within the EU would be much different in that regard.Ironically the UK seceding from the EU might possibly be an exception which proves the rule.
However the level of the division between Federalist v Nationalist in this case suggests that history will unfortunately probably win out as usual in the long term.The fact that both Scotland and Ireland are both on the Federalist side and even Slovenia and Croatia in this case suggests as I said that karma might just be playing some part in it all. 
Carryfast:
sinclair89:
Carryfast:
sinclair89:
Something I wrote before, also would like to add the fact, I wanted to leave EU before the battle buses, blathering Boris, rat face gove and the ultimate gobs##te , Murdoch got involved. They don’t speak for me, I speak for me…here it is.
Today we find out if “The Pen is mightier than the Sword”
In the 20th century The UK (and people of other nationalities ) , twice, told German controlled Europe to Sod off. Blighty is not for being controlled.
If we vote leave we CAN have immigration
If we vote leave we CAN trade with European countries
If we vote leave CAN save our NHS, fund better education.
Why? Because we are British and that’s we do. When it gets rough we grind through, we adapt, we overcome and we prove every single nay sayer wrong and shove every word back down their throat. It’s not racist or xenophobic, we welcome everyone, we trade with everyone, we are masters of our own future. We as a nation, not a puppet to EU.
Vote remain? May as well Tear down the St George’s Cross, Bring down the Mighty Welsh Dragon, Throw down the Fierce Scottish Saltire and Lion Rampant, replace the Hand Of Ulster , wrap them up in a Union Flag , throw it in a bin and forget everything you know about the UK and throw up your Yellow Stars and Blue of the European Super State.
Yes, your pen will be mightier than the sword today, but choose wisely.
Unfortunately the inconvenient facts of Edward 1 st’s army rampaging across Ireland and Scotland and the Irish uprising of 1916-20 and the events in Slovenia and Croatia in 1991,prove that when push comes to shove,the argument between Nation v Federation is rarely if ever,as simple as that.IE Federalism is rarely bothered about any type of democratic process that isn’t in the interests of the Federation as opposed to the interests of the self determination of the Nation.Everything in this case suggest karma as payback for the wrongs of and committed by the UK federation.

Indeed the idea of nation vs federation is never simple and yes what Federation wants, Federation gets ultimately . But in all of them “battles” of nation vs federation there where and are those who stood against it. Continue to stand against it.
This isn’t down to the actions of England when raiding Ireland, Scotland and Wales. No this is purely down to the EU wanting total dominance of the UK.
They will get it as well.
It wasn’t ‘England’ that ‘raided’ Ireland and Scotland.It was a Franco Norman invasive Federalist agenda that took out ‘England’ too. 
While the examples of Slovenia and Croatia in 1991 and the Irish uprising of 1916-20 show that ‘the Federation’ doesn’t always get ‘what it it wants’.While what they do prove,as usual,is that the argument between Nation v Federation has rarely been shown to be settled amicably or democratically.There’s no reason to think that secession within the EU would be much different in that regard.Ironically the UK seceding from the EU might possibly be an exception which proves the rule.
However the level of the division between Federalist v Nationalist in this case suggests that history will unfortunately probably win out as usual in the long term.The fact that both Scotland and Ireland are both on the Federalist side and even Slovenia and Croatia in this case suggests as I said that karma might just be playing some part in it all. 
I agree that karma will be playing a major role. Let’s just hope she’s late for the party?
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Let’s hope enough people vote to get us out. Funny though isn’t it, that the overwhelming majority of people that I have spoken to all claim they are voting leave, and I suspect most folk on here have heard similar. Yet the vote seems to be 50/50.
Human nature is to ‘give it large’ in front of one another, yet when the time comes a large amount bottle it. If we DO end up remaining, I hope the remainers have the temerity to keep quiet if/when it all goes ■■■■ up.
The markets are banking on a Remain vote.
Radar19:
The markets are banking on a Remain vote.
It’s proved all along the financial figures were crap. The markets are so fickle. An electorate of over 40 million, and the markets hit a year so far high on a poll of 10k. Load of ■■■■■■■■ 
OVLOV JAY:
Radar19:
The markets are banking on a Remain vote.
It’s proved all along the financial figures were crap. The markets are so fickle. An electorate of over 40 million, and the markets hit a year so far high on a poll of 10k. Load of ■■■■■■■■ 
True but its early days at the moment. Given that Farage isn’t that confident isn’t a good sign.
sinclair89:
I agree that karma will be playing a major role. Let’s just hope she’s late for the party?
+1.
Let’s hope that we can smash the thing peacefully and quickly now before it has the chance to get a real grip in the form of removal of the right of secession and a Federal Army to add to the already undemocratic nature of it.

eagerbeaver:
Let’s hope enough people vote to get us out. Funny though isn’t it, that the overwhelming majority of people that I have spoken to all claim they are voting leave, and I suspect most folk on here have heard similar. Yet the vote seems to be 50/50.
Human nature is to ‘give it large’ in front of one another, yet when the time comes a large amount bottle it. If we DO end up remaining, I hope the remainers have the temerity to keep quiet if/when it all goes ■■■■ up.
If the vote comes in and remain is the winner then the best thing everyone can do is accept it and work together to help this country in the future.
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