Makes me proud to still work for an independant UK firm!
Davey Driver:
dreva:
you heard about the sat bit with the landlady in pompey you dont know till you try if you have plenty of cash why you moaning about
WTF has a landlady going to the European court of Justice got to do with Human Rights■■?
Her case is based simply on the fact they are allowed to sell Belgium and German Beer, French Wines and Greek Cheeses etc but not allowed to watch Greek Television that she pays for.
Its got nothing to do with low wages or slave labour
its the european court different case same thing you dont know till you try is what im saying but your all fond of moaning but do bugger all about 
dreva:
its the european court different case same thing you dont know till you try is what im saying but your all fond of moaning but do bugger all about
Human Rights is entirely different to Justice for trading and dealt with by a seperate body
In your way of thinking then, all the eastern europeans should be going to the European Court arguing that they are entitled to the same minimum wage as a UK Employee who is also as it happens a member of the European Union.
Thats the problem with some folk, they tend to read something on the internet and suddenly become world experts forgetting that lawyers have spent years training on specifics in law, in other words you’ll not find a single lawyer who is an expert in every field of law imaginable.
The case your referring to will cost her around £12k if she loses, compared to the £10k fine Sky tried to have imposed on her, Sky also never mentioned anything about the hundreds of pubs in spain that show THEIR sports & movies channels having paid a subscription hence the reason a lawyer stepped in to take her case to the European courts of justice.
The UK joined the EU and was well aware of the implications of becoming part of a larger community, Live with it, I guess in about 20 years all countries will be ahead of the UK because of the greed of the government, and the continual willingness to hand over billions to 3rd world countries instead of saying enough is enough and concentrating on the UK’s problems.
You can bet your bottom dollar that in years to come when 3rd world countries have pulled themselves out of poverty thanks to the likes of the USA & UK they wont be so keen to hand over aid to ailing western economies so the vicious circle will continue.
And just to bring it back on topic, more companies will then have to go down the path of RH Freight 
Davey Driver:
dreva:
its the european court different case same thing you dont know till you try is what im saying but your all fond of moaning but do bugger all aboutHuman Rights is entirely different to Justice for trading and dealt with by a seperate body
In your way of thinking then, all the eastern europeans should be going to the European Court arguing that they are entitled to the same minimum wage as a UK Employee who is also as it happens a member of the European Union.
Thats the problem with some folk, they tend to read something on the internet and suddenly become world experts forgetting that lawyers have spent years training on specifics in law, in other words you’ll not find a single lawyer who is an expert in every field of law imaginable.
The case your referring to will cost her around £12k if she loses, compared to the £10k fine Sky tried to have imposed on her, Sky also never mentioned anything about the hundreds of pubs in spain that show THEIR sports & movies channels having paid a subscription hence the reason a lawyer stepped in to take her case to the European courts of justice.
The UK joined the EU and was well aware of the implications of becoming part of a larger community, Live with it, I guess in about 20 years all countries will be ahead of the UK because of the greed of the government, and the continual willingness to hand over billions to 3rd world countries instead of saying enough is enough and concentrating on the UK’s problems.
You can bet your bottom dollar that in years to come when 3rd world countries have pulled themselves out of poverty thanks to the likes of the USA & UK they wont be so keen to hand over aid to ailing western economies so the vicious circle will continue.
And just to bring it back on topic, more companies will then have to go down the path of RH Freight
Just one correction is needed to that.When we joined and then decided on our continued membership of the EU most of the east european states were tied to Russia under the Warsaw Pact and their drivers were employed as conscripts or reservists for Russia,not working as civvies and being given employment by our firms and at the time of the referendum,to continue our membership of the EU,no one then could have even dreamed of the present situation involving eu enlargement into eastern europe.
It did’nt take Thatcher and Reagan long to realise the cheap labour potential in bringing the two totally different types of economies together.But the question remains who gains from this 
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Go on then. I will stand aside, let us hear Carryfasts answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.
Garbage in, Garbage out! 
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Wheel Nut:
Go on then. I will stand aside, let us hear Carryfasts answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.Garbage in, Garbage out!
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That’s exactly what happens every time we elect a new government .But the PM is being paid over £100,000 pa to answer the questions not me.So let’s hear it from him and Clegg in what way has the economy actually gained from allowing the east european states into the EU and if globalisation is supposed to be so good why is our economy in the zb while the Chinese and all the other commie hangers on are getting richer. 
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Go on then. I will stand aside, let us hear Carryfasts answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.Garbage in, Garbage out!
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That’s exactly what happens every time we elect a new government
As educating and intriguing this is what the f has the election of a new government got to do with a long standing British company being sold■■?
Ben9:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Go on then. I will stand aside, let us hear Carryfasts answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.Garbage in, Garbage out!
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That’s exactly what happens every time we elect a new government
As educating and intriguing this is what the f has the election of a new government got to do with a long standing British company being sold■■?
It’s all a continuation of the same issues which Jessica’s Dad,amongst others,have raised on the topic and regardless of the exact situation in this case all of the different governments are’nt putting the interests of the British economy first in the context of the British international road transport industry or in fact any industry.
Out of interest how much less would an eastern euopean operator pay for a new tractor unit compared to a uk haulier.
kr79:
Out of interest how much less would an eastern euopean operator pay for a new tractor unit compared to a uk haulier.
How much less than a uk haulier can an eastern european one charge in rates for the job and still remain solvent and why is probably a better question.
god its to deep for me all this the 950 a day will put some off so lets just see what happens
Curryblast for Prime Minister?
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Go on then. I will stand aside, let us hear Carryfasts answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.Garbage in, Garbage out!
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That’s exactly what happens every time we elect a new government
We may actually make a politician out of him (carry on) He has answered my challenge with a question and a rebuttal to answer it.
From the original 6 members of the common market to the huge EU with 27 members with the largest expansion in 2004. All the new members were accepted by the other members in a vote. I am all for the EU, just because we cannot control our island borders is nothing to do with the EU.
I would much rather live in Melbourne England than Beijing China or Taipei as poverty in Britain doesn’t make us street urchins or living in wriggly tin buildings. Some new member states are better off, some are worse off.
Ho hum!
Wheel Nut:
I would much rather live in Melbourne England than Beijing China or Taipei as poverty in Britain doesn’t make us street urchins or living in wriggly tin buildings. Some new member states are better off, some are worse off.
Ho hum!
yes but i would much rather be near the better end of the scale cos those below us are’nt much cop.
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
Go on then. I will stand aside, let us hear Carryfasts answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything.Garbage in, Garbage out!
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That’s exactly what happens every time we elect a new government
We may actually make a politician out of him (carry on) He has answered my challenge with a question and a rebuttal to answer it.
From the original 6 members of the common market to the huge EU with 27 members with the largest expansion in 2004. All the new members were accepted by the other members in a vote. I am all for the EU, just because we cannot control our island borders is nothing to do with the EU.
I would much rather live in Melbourne England than Beijing China or Taipei as poverty in Britain doesn’t make us street urchins or living in wriggly tin buildings. Some new member states are better off, some are worse off.
Ho hum!
So who would have thought,in the Britain of the late 1960’s,that in a measure of general wealth,in 2009/ 2010, Britain would be on about the same level as zb Poland,Cyprus,Portugal and Italy bearing in mind how poor that lot and at least Southern Italy was then.But I don’t remember any vote (referedum) being held here concerning the enlargement of the EU to include all the Commie states of the old Warsaw Pact. 
The issue is’nt one of protecting our borders it’s one of protecting our economy which is a lot easier.But assuming that the pc bs of letting in everyone and his dog applies,if not we get branded as racist,and the British idea of a free market economy just means exporting jobs to,and/or importing labour and everything else from,the cheapest place possible globally,what’s the point of ‘protecting our borders’ and what is it that we’re protecting them from exactly .
But you’re right poverty in Britain no longer involves the streets being full of urchins or people being put into the slavery of the Workhouse because it took from the industrial revolution until the 1960’s for Britain to understand that it’s decent wages and having low unemployment that makes for a developed economy worth living in.
That was until we decided that we’d throw it all away by just giving all our jobs to,and importing what we need from,the zb communists and in the long term it will probably just be a case of no difference between living in China or Britain,except in Britain we won’t have the privilege of working to be poor and by then the average Chinese will probably at least be able to afford something a bit better than living in a wriggly tin building.But what type of house the average Brit will be able to afford is anyone’s guess.
Where did you buy your computer from? or more importantly, where did the components for your computer come from?
Wheel Nut:
Where did you buy your computer from? or more importantly, where did the components for your computer come from?
Probably from the Far East, because that’s where computers are made, but there is no reason why they cannot be made here and people could not be employed here to assemble them.
I agree with CF on this one, we have done enormous damage to our long-term prospects by running down our manufacturing industries. In the short-term it may be attractive to pay less for an item because it is manufactured on the other side of the world, but in the longer term an economy collapses if nobody is doing anything productive.