The DCPC stinks

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robroy:

Happy Keith:

switchlogic:
‘… I do love his comical ravings…’

I lurve the shades

A 70’s inheritance?

Come on guys admit it, …you love each other really :laughing:

Well I dont hate him, I actually enjoy reading his wordy drivel sometimes. Rarely understand it though, being a lowly truck driver. Doubt his feelings for me would be so easy going though, he seems to have a lot of pent up anger and has directed a few very vicious and horrible posts at me previously. He doesn’t strike me as a particularly plesant chap thats for sure

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Héraultais:

Happy Keith:
We’ve all got an ‘agenda’, matey - mine is see through whilst yours appears confused - what with loving the EU but not having much positive to submit, ie you seem to agree with the subject (EU dictated) thread :unamused:

Not quite. If you care to re read you will see that I completely agree with the DCPC, but it has not been well implemented in the UK, and if it was as stringent in the Uk as it is here in France then Uk based drivers really would have something to moan about. As it is, it is as easy as pie to get the card in the UK, but much more difficult here in France.

But of course, you only read what you want to read.

Excuse me if I am wrong but I though the French refused to implement it or is that just for drivers who stay within France?

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viking7000:
Excuse me if I am wrong but I though the French refused to implement it or is that just for drivers who stay within France?

Your’e wrong. The French have had it as the DCPC since 2012 and as the FIMO for a long time before that. I only work in France and have to carry my card with at all times.

See here page 16.

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/pdf/professional_drivers/report_on_periodic_training_of_professional_drivers_en.pdf

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Just going off your vids switch logic I think you’d make a good DCPC instructor. Should do it.

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109LWB:
Strange that.

I passed my class 2 in 2006, in a manual truck. I then spent the next 7 years driving manual trucks, reading maps, following my nose…

I guess now my new truck I got last week has an auto box, I’m no longer a real truck driver, and now I have a sat nav to give me up to date Information on traffic, I can no longer read a map.

You wouldn’t last a day doing my job, so please don’t spit your dummy out because you are too old to keep up with the times… Plenty of other old boys manage, so it’s just you I’m afraid.

desypete:

Left hand down!:

desypete:
well at least i have hung up my keys now as my 26 years experience of all classes all gear boxes all combinations comes to an end, not one road accident in all my years, just a couple of broken lenses or the odd mirror cracked from reserving accidents over the time is all, so not a bad record and now i can not drive and instead the dummies who can only drive autos and get around the country only with a sat nav take over along with the foreigners

desypete:
in this modern world a guide and all the different things cabs can do these days wouldnt go a miss like how the hell do you use the computers on the dam things ? i dont have a clue and never touch them lol so i really wouldnt mind someone spending time to show me all the new things in the cabs as i turn up get given the keys and off i go in all sorts of cabs that i can drive but dont have a clue what all the buttons do

Wait… So here you are blaming all these “dummies” that can “only drive autos” and such like, yet in your next post you admit that you “dont have a clue” on at least 2 separate issues on how to drive a modern truck and thus “never touch them”. Sounds to me like you fit squarely in the “dummies” camp and it’s a relief for us all that you’re now off the road for good.

were did i say i never touch the modern trucks ? i was on about of course the on board computers that i dont touch, why would i need to touch them ? will it make me drive better ?

you stick to playing a truck driver my friend and imagine what it must of been like for us guys who did all the hard stuff years ago, no night heaters, changing gears all day long, no sat navs so you had to really learn how to get around areas without an aid other than a map or if your lucky an a - z
we used to stop at the first garage we would find in the area to get directions etc

nowadays the professional drivers refuse to take loads unless they have been shown the routes there going to take scared of low bridges etc, i have never heard the like in transport unless i didnt see it with my own eyes at a company i worked at

the sad thing is the guys today can not pass a test that involves anything with gears let alone eaton twins etc they have had to make the test real easy for the morons of the auto world : ) no offence : )

oh please !!! your a dinky toy driver
my point is after 26 years driving artics and wagon and drags etc and for the dinky toy drivers information a wagon and drag is a combination of a prime mover a class 2 dinky toy with a trailer attached there a different kettle of fish than just driving a small rigid

anyway i can not drive anymore as i dont have a cpc card and i will not get one either despite my 26 years driving accident free
now along comes the new guys with there automatic class 1 no experience but has a cpc card and he can drive

i am a dinosaur but also a dinosaur that has some back bone to stick 2 fingers up after all the changes i swore i would get out of transport when the digi card came in but i hung on in there and now this cpc card has just put an end to the industry for me. the job isnt the same one i used to love, drivers are there own worse enemy but its always been that way

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desypete:

109LWB:
Strange that.

I passed my class 2 in 2006, in a manual truck. I then spent the next 7 years driving manual trucks, reading maps, following my nose…

I guess now my new truck I got last week has an auto box, I’m no longer a real truck driver, and now I have a sat nav to give me up to date Information on traffic, I can no longer read a map.

You wouldn’t last a day doing my job, so please don’t spit your dummy out because you are too old to keep up with the times… Plenty of other old boys manage, so it’s just you I’m afraid.

desypete:

Left hand down!:

desypete:
well at least i have hung up my keys now as my 26 years experience of all classes all gear boxes all combinations comes to an end, not one road accident in all my years, just a couple of broken lenses or the odd mirror cracked from reserving accidents over the time is all, so not a bad record and now i can not drive and instead the dummies who can only drive autos and get around the country only with a sat nav take over along with the foreigners

desypete:
in this modern world a guide and all the different things cabs can do these days wouldnt go a miss like how the hell do you use the computers on the dam things ? i dont have a clue and never touch them lol so i really wouldnt mind someone spending time to show me all the new things in the cabs as i turn up get given the keys and off i go in all sorts of cabs that i can drive but dont have a clue what all the buttons do

Wait… So here you are blaming all these “dummies” that can “only drive autos” and such like, yet in your next post you admit that you “dont have a clue” on at least 2 separate issues on how to drive a modern truck and thus “never touch them”. Sounds to me like you fit squarely in the “dummies” camp and it’s a relief for us all that you’re now off the road for good.

were did i say i never touch the modern trucks ? i was on about of course the on board computers that i dont touch, why would i need to touch them ? will it make me drive better ?

you stick to playing a truck driver my friend and imagine what it must of been like for us guys who did all the hard stuff years ago, no night heaters, changing gears all day long, no sat navs so you had to really learn how to get around areas without an aid other than a map or if your lucky an a - z
we used to stop at the first garage we would find in the area to get directions etc

nowadays the professional drivers refuse to take loads unless they have been shown the routes there going to take scared of low bridges etc, i have never heard the like in transport unless i didnt see it with my own eyes at a company i worked at

the sad thing is the guys today can not pass a test that involves anything with gears let alone eaton twins etc they have had to make the test real easy for the morons of the auto world : ) no offence : )

oh please !!! your a dinky toy driver
my point is after 26 years driving artics and wagon and drags etc and for the dinky toy drivers information a wagon and drag is a combination of a prime mover a class 2 dinky toy with a trailer attached there a different kettle of fish than just driving a small rigid

anyway i can not drive anymore as i dont have a cpc card and i will not get one either despite my 26 years driving accident free
now along comes the new guys with there automatic class 1 no experience but has a cpc card and he can drive

i am a dinosaur but also a dinosaur that has some back bone to stick 2 fingers up after all the changes i swore i would get out of transport when the digi card came in but i hung on in there and now this cpc card has just put an end to the industry for me. the job isnt the same one i used to love, drivers are there own worse enemy but its always been that way

You are just making yourself look ignorant, when all said and done you’ve used a computer to read and post on Tnet, so what is your hang up about modern electronics in a truck, is it because your carer cant show you how to work them.

As for no night heaters, it was a pain in the backside, either freeze your nuts off or run the engine or gas yourself, thank the lord for the night heater. try asking someone in a garage directions, you’ll be lucky if they know how they arrived at work that morning, or speak english.

I was a late comer to auto boxes and I still enjoy driving a manual, but when all said and done the modern autos a bloody good driver aid and more effecient too.

The way you’d have it we’d all still be bloody roping and sheeting (I used too avoid when and where ever possible by grabing a tilt :wink: ) what a pain that was, oh but off coarse, every other driver would help you fold you sheets, true, exccept 90% off the time you were on your todd on some god forsaken wind swept ■■■■ hole farm.

To spit your dummy over the driver CPC, well thats just bizzare, it just shows what your attitude to personel development is, on that basis, how did you ever train to be a driver, or were you a grandfather rights hero.

Ok the CPC has a shed load off holes in it, but the idea is right.

Personaly I’m pleased with all the mod cons, though I dont have a sat nav, but that because I’m a tight wad. Its a modern world embrace it :wink:

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eddie snax:
‘…To spit your dummy over the driver CPC … it just shows what your attitude to personel development is … Ok the CPC has a shed load off holes in it, but the idea is right…’

Dismissing a chap’s attitude to the Bull-in-a-China-shop DCPC by carte blanche suggesting his personal development attitude is questionable is a bit much.

Surely, the chap chucking-in his livelihood is another symptom of the ineptitude of the EU poorly managing our bread-and-butter lives. In this case it’s to knobble HGV drivers with 35 hours of shabbily enacted grey soup which is what has disenfranchised the fella: I know he’s not alone as tens of thousands of others likewise feel that way in our industry alone…!

From the EU reducing OUR vacuum cleaner wattage to them making the UK sell-off Post Offices at great loss to we who formerly owned them, the EU ■■■■■ & disenfranchises entire populations and communities on a daily basis - not just one bod who is reluctantly concluding ‘ram-it, Brussels’ :frowning:

1 Old ladies have lost their Post Office: Is their personal development attitude wrong if they cannot cope with IT banking?
2 The UK can soon only buy a vacuum cleaner with a tiny ■■■■: Is the domestic equipment arrangement of skint people the EU’s business to that degree?
3 HGV drivers have had to eat [zb] from Brussels when you suggest we ought gobble it up?

Crikey, mate - 1600 watts or not, Big Brother Brussels certainly has you giving full suction from its flabby teat :cry:

So until the General Election when I hope the EU gets a thumping - my best wishes to all for hopefully finding tolerance of Brussels onslaught of intrusive meddling, DCPC or otherwise

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Happy Keith:

eddie snax:
‘…To spit your dummy over the driver CPC … it just shows what your attitude to personel development is … Ok the CPC has a shed load off holes in it, but the idea is right…’

Dismissing a chap’s attitude to the Bull-in-a-China-shop DCPC by carte blanche suggesting his personal development attitude is questionable is a bit much.

Surely, the chap chucking-in his livelihood is another symptom of the ineptitude of the EU poorly managing our bread-and-butter lives. In this case it’s to knobble HGV drivers with 35 hours of shabbily enacted grey soup which is what has disenfranchised the fella: I know he’s not alone as tens of thousands of others likewise feel that way in our industry alone…!

From the EU reducing OUR vacuum cleaner wattage to them making the UK sell-off Post Offices at great loss to we who formerly owned them, the EU ■■■■■ & disenfranchises entire populations and communities on a daily basis - not just one bod who is reluctantly concluding ‘ram-it, Brussels’ :frowning:

1 Old ladies have lost their Post Office: Is their personal development attitude wrong if they cannot cope with IT banking?
2 The UK can soon only buy a vacuum cleaner with a tiny ■■■■: Is the domestic equipment arrangement of skint people the EU’s business to that degree?
3 HGV drivers have had to eat [zb] from Brussels when you suggest we ought gobble it up?

Crikey, mate - 1600 watts or not, Big Brother Brussels certainly has you giving full suction from its flabby teat :cry:

So until the General Election when I hope the EU gets a thumping - my best wishes to all for hopefully finding tolerance of Brussels onslaught of intrusive meddling, DCPC or otherwise

My reference to his attitude to personal development, is not just because he refused to do the dcpc, but also to do with an inference in his post generaly, about modern tech and modern vehicles

desypete:
[i am a dinosaur but also a dinosaur that has some back bone to stick 2 fingers up after all the changes i swore i would get out of transport when the digi card came in but i hung on in there and now this cpc card has just put an end to the industry for me. the job isnt the same one i used to love, drivers are there own worse enemy but its always been that way

The job aint the same, but some off its better, and some off its worse, such as life :unamused:

Sometimes its good to embrace change, and I for 1 dont reckon all the changes are a bad thing :wink:

To throw all that anti EU stuff about is muddying the waters.

As for old ladies and IT banking, well many off them would relish the opertunity to learn, someone needs to fund helping them, and where that has gone wrong. Less people than you beleive have a closed mind, most people enjoy learning :wink:

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eddie snax:
‘…To throw all that anti EU stuff about is muddying the waters…’

I’ll take the hit, Eddie - but include it because the EU via it’s crock-of-cack DCPC proves it to be the single issue in today’s politics worth getting concerned about.

Unless others know different, there’s no other method to draw the DCPC to account

Methods such as the DCPC are sneekily destroying democrisy not only in Europe (cajoling Ukraine with millions of our ££’s, anyone?) but also forms the entire mis-management strategy embraced by:

1 The wannabe, EU trough-monster Salmond
2 Cameron - despite his huffing, teasing and lying about it
3 Clegg - oh definately!
4 Milliband - since the EU is sooo ultra liberal it is closer to the Labour comfort blanket of Communism than many poor fools realise
5 The Green Party woman - allied to wind-power and giving UK wealth the continent over

eddie snax:
‘… most people enjoy learning …’

Many might enjoy the choice of learning - but not necessarily from the sharp-ended toe of a Brussels HQ’d jackboot, mate :wink:

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Happy Keith:

eddie snax:
‘…To throw all that anti EU stuff about is muddying the waters…’

I’ll take the hit, Eddie - but include it because the EU via it’s crock-of-cack DCPC proves it to be the single issue in today’s politics worth getting concerned about.

Unless others know different, there’s no other method to draw the DCPC to account

Methods such as the DCPC are sneekily destroying democrisy not only in Europe (cajoling Ukraine with millions of our ££’s, anyone?) but also forms the entire mis-management strategy embraced by:

1 The wannabe, EU trough-monster Salmond
2 Cameron - despite his huffing, teasing and lying about it
3 Clegg - oh definately!
4 Milliband - since the EU is sooo ultra liberal it is closer to the Labour comfort blanket of Communism than many poor fools realise
5 The Green Party woman - allied to wind-power and giving UK wealth the continent over

eddie snax:
‘… most people enjoy learning …’

Many might enjoy the choice of learning - but not necessarily from the sharp-ended toe of a Brussels HQ’d jackboot, mate :wink:

Cant argue with description off our leading politians :wink:

The dcpc would bo more accountable if there were some kind off test, and also more valued, which in turn might help make this job more valued. I cant lay all the blame for that at the EU’s door, as I understand it it was a UK government that laid down the parameters for the UK dcpc.

You seem to be laying some or all of the blame for the trouble in Ukraine at the EU’s door, and on this I do have some agreement. IMO if the EU and Nato hadnt been actively courting Ukraine, then Putin wouldnt have felt it politicaly necessary to put the strong arm on them, and take back Crimea.

Fair do’s, forced learning, bit like being at school is maybe heavy handed. but I do think that you have singlied the wrong culprit for Post Office closures, you need to it run past the national political class, not the EU political class.

As hard as you may try, some things are just not the fualt off the EU :wink:

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eddie snax:

desypete:

109LWB:
Strange that.

I passed my class 2 in 2006, in a manual truck. I then spent the next 7 years driving manual trucks, reading maps, following my nose…

I guess now my new truck I got last week has an auto box, I’m no longer a real truck driver, and now I have a sat nav to give me up to date Information on traffic, I can no longer read a map.

You wouldn’t last a day doing my job, so please don’t spit your dummy out because you are too old to keep up with the times… Plenty of other old boys manage, so it’s just you I’m afraid.

desypete:

Left hand down!:

desypete:
well at least i have hung up my keys now as my 26 years experience of all classes all gear boxes all combinations comes to an end, not one road accident in all my years, just a couple of broken lenses or the odd mirror cracked from reserving accidents over the time is all, so not a bad record and now i can not drive and instead the dummies who can only drive autos and get around the country only with a sat nav take over along with the foreigners

desypete:
in this modern world a guide and all the different things cabs can do these days wouldnt go a miss like how the hell do you use the computers on the dam things ? i dont have a clue and never touch them lol so i really wouldnt mind someone spending time to show me all the new things in the cabs as i turn up get given the keys and off i go in all sorts of cabs that i can drive but dont have a clue what all the buttons do

Wait… So here you are blaming all these “dummies” that can “only drive autos” and such like, yet in your next post you admit that you “dont have a clue” on at least 2 separate issues on how to drive a modern truck and thus “never touch them”. Sounds to me like you fit squarely in the “dummies” camp and it’s a relief for us all that you’re now off the road for good.

were did i say i never touch the modern trucks ? i was on about of course the on board computers that i dont touch, why would i need to touch them ? will it make me drive better ?

you stick to playing a truck driver my friend and imagine what it must of been like for us guys who did all the hard stuff years ago, no night heaters, changing gears all day long, no sat navs so you had to really learn how to get around areas without an aid other than a map or if your lucky an a - z
we used to stop at the first garage we would find in the area to get directions etc

nowadays the professional drivers refuse to take loads unless they have been shown the routes there going to take scared of low bridges etc, i have never heard the like in transport unless i didnt see it with my own eyes at a company i worked at

the sad thing is the guys today can not pass a test that involves anything with gears let alone eaton twins etc they have had to make the test real easy for the morons of the auto world : ) no offence : )

oh please !!! your a dinky toy driver
my point is after 26 years driving artics and wagon and drags etc and for the dinky toy drivers information a wagon and drag is a combination of a prime mover a class 2 dinky toy with a trailer attached there a different kettle of fish than just driving a small rigid

anyway i can not drive anymore as i dont have a cpc card and i will not get one either despite my 26 years driving accident free
now along comes the new guys with there automatic class 1 no experience but has a cpc card and he can drive

i am a dinosaur but also a dinosaur that has some back bone to stick 2 fingers up after all the changes i swore i would get out of transport when the digi card came in but i hung on in there and now this cpc card has just put an end to the industry for me. the job isnt the same one i used to love, drivers are there own worse enemy but its always been that way

You are just making yourself look ignorant, when all said and done you’ve used a computer to read and post on Tnet, so what is your hang up about modern electronics in a truck, is it because your carer cant show you how to work them.

As for no night heaters, it was a pain in the backside, either freeze your nuts off or run the engine or gas yourself, thank the lord for the night heater. try asking someone in a garage directions, you’ll be lucky if they know how they arrived at work that morning, or speak english.

I was a late comer to auto boxes and I still enjoy driving a manual, but when all said and done the modern autos a bloody good driver aid and more effecient too.

The way you’d have it we’d all still be bloody roping and sheeting (I used too avoid when and where ever possible by grabing a tilt :wink: ) what a pain that was, oh but off coarse, every other driver would help you fold you sheets, true, exccept 90% off the time you were on your todd on some god forsaken wind swept [zb] hole farm.

To spit your dummy over the driver CPC, well thats just bizzare, it just shows what your attitude to personel development is, on that basis, how did you ever train to be a driver, or were you a grandfather rights hero.

Ok the CPC has a shed load off holes in it, but the idea is right.

Personaly I’m pleased with all the mod cons, though I dont have a sat nav, but that because I’m a tight wad. Its a modern world embrace it :wink:

i dont need a dinky truck driver to tell me about trucking bendy driving is a different kettle of fish

i dont need a card to tell anyone i can drive a bendy as i have done so for 26 years having passed my test in a manual gear box and not been given it.

how do they do the gear changing exercise on the tests these days if its automatic ■■?

this job used to be free and easy when i first came into it the hours were long, and all you had was a tacho chart that could be easy to bin and a new one used if you felt like or if the boss wanted you back lol

yes i know its illegal but we used to do it and make a few more quid on the side

now you can not even smoke in the cabs, you have to have a digi card, you have to have full hse gear to wear, you have to bow down to gate men and transport morons left right and centre or be booted off site, you once could have a good old chat with a fellow driver and only had the accent to deal with instead of today were english is fast becoming a language of the past

you have the office morons tracking you and should you stop for a ■■■■ your in for it

all the red tape that now goes with the job some idiots love it some idiots even get an orgasem from being top of the class on drivers hours and regs

were are all the hairy arsed truckers gone ? it seems these days there all highly educated in all things except how to drive a truck unless someone shows them how to do everything

could they change a tyre ■■? lol not a chance as they would ring in for the boss to help them, could they change a fuse when the electrics blow ■■? no not there job so will sit there for hours waiting for a fitter lol

but they have a cpc card so they must be good

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desypete:
i dont need a dinky truck driver to tell me about trucking bendy driving is a different kettle of fish

i dont need a card to tell anyone i can drive a bendy as i have done so for 26 years having passed my test in a manual gear box and not been given it.

Strange that you assume that you’re the only 1 on this forum who’s been driving class 1 for 26 yrs :open_mouth: and that you are the god on all things manual :unamused:

desypete:
this job used to be free and easy when i first came into it the hours were long, and all you had was a tacho chart that could be easy to bin and a new one used if you felt like or if the boss wanted you back lol

yes i know its illegal but we used to do it and make a few more quid on the side

Binning your card, so basic :unamused: , having a wire or pulling the fuse or turning the key back, probably too sophisticated or techy for you :unamused: and yes on percentage wow what an earner :sunglasses:

But whats the point, surely its got to be better to get the industry to value their assets better, instead off just sweating them,as in the free and easy days :wink:

desypete:
[now you can not even smoke in the cabs,

GOOD !

desypete:
[, you have to have a digi card, you have to have full hse gear to wear, you have to bow down to gate men and transport morons left right and centre or be booted off site, you once could have a good old chat with a fellow driver and only had the accent to deal with instead of today were english is fast becoming a language of the past

Oh dear you really are a techno fobe. and you might have to wear some PPE, if it helps ensure you go home at night wahts the hang up. All depends on your attitude, oh yeah, yours stinks :unamused: And some off these foreigners speak dead good english, or do a more passable attempt at it than I would off theirs and if you take the time to talk, you might find that they are very intresting, well more so than you :open_mouth:

desypete:
[you have the office morons tracking you and should you stop for a [zb] your in for it

all the red tape that now goes with the job some idiots love it some idiots even get an orgasem from being top of the class on drivers hours and regs

Trackers are nothing to fear, oh unless you’re swinging the lead.

Red tape is often as much to cover your arse than anyone elses.

And why not be on top off the transport regulations, keep your cash in your pocket, and dont be handing it over to the VOSA :sunglasses:

desypete:
could they change a tyre ■■? lol not a chance as they would ring in for the boss to help them, could they change a fuse when the electrics blow ■■? no not there job so will sit there for hours waiting for a fitter lol

Could they change a tyre :question: , no, because to many have ago hero I can do the lot Gv’nor, have tried and failed with catastrohic results, so now its a professionals job :open_mouth: same goes for fuses and seems to be the same for bulbs to “strange” but anyway :unamused:

desypete:
but they have a cpc card so they must be good

Or bad, but can drive for a living, something you are no longer capable off :laughing:

desypete:
were are all the hairy arsed truckers gone ?

Probably too good to do the cpc after 26yrs driving bendies, and certainly not dinkies, and packed in thank christ :open_mouth:

PS I’ve been on artics 26yrs too, wouldve thought that you might have worked that out, with my desciption off how the job used to be when veiwed with the rose tinted specs removed :wink:

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eddie snax:

desypete:
i dont need a dinky truck driver to tell me about trucking bendy driving is a different kettle of fish

i dont need a card to tell anyone i can drive a bendy as i have done so for 26 years having passed my test in a manual gear box and not been given it.

Strange that you assume that you’re the only 1 on this forum who’s been driving class 1 for 26 yrs :open_mouth: and that you are the god on all things manual :unamused:

desypete:
this job used to be free and easy when i first came into it the hours were long, and all you had was a tacho chart that could be easy to bin and a new one used if you felt like or if the boss wanted you back lol

yes i know its illegal but we used to do it and make a few more quid on the side

Binning your card, so basic :unamused: , having a wire or pulling the fuse or turning the key back, probably too sophisticated or techy for you :unamused: and yes on percentage wow what an earner :sunglasses:

But whats the point, surely its got to be better to get the industry to value their assets better, instead off just sweating them,as in the free and easy days :wink:

desypete:
[now you can not even smoke in the cabs,

GOOD !

desypete:
[, you have to have a digi card, you have to have full hse gear to wear, you have to bow down to gate men and transport morons left right and centre or be booted off site, you once could have a good old chat with a fellow driver and only had the accent to deal with instead of today were english is fast becoming a language of the past

Oh dear you really are a techno fobe. and you might have to wear some PPE, if it helps ensure you go home at night wahts the hang up. All depends on your attitude, oh yeah, yours stinks :unamused: And some off these foreigners speak dead good english, or do a more passable attempt at it than I would off theirs and if you take the time to talk, you might find that they are very intresting, well more so than you :open_mouth:

desypete:
[you have the office morons tracking you and should you stop for a [zb] your in for it

all the red tape that now goes with the job some idiots love it some idiots even get an orgasem from being top of the class on drivers hours and regs

Trackers are nothing to fear, oh unless you’re swinging the lead.

Red tape is often as much to cover your arse than anyone elses.

And why not be on top off the transport regulations, keep your cash in your pocket, and dont be handing it over to the VOSA :sunglasses:

desypete:
could they change a tyre ■■? lol not a chance as they would ring in for the boss to help them, could they change a fuse when the electrics blow ■■? no not there job so will sit there for hours waiting for a fitter lol

Could they change a tyre :question: , no, because to many have ago hero I can do the lot Gv’nor, have tried and failed with catastrohic results, so now its a professionals job :open_mouth: same goes for fuses and seems to be the same for bulbs to “strange” but anyway :unamused:

desypete:
but they have a cpc card so they must be good

Or bad, but can drive for a living, something you are no longer capable off :laughing:

desypete:
were are all the hairy arsed truckers gone ?

Probably too good to do the cpc after 26yrs driving bendies, and certainly not dinkies, and packed in thank christ :open_mouth:

PS I’ve been on artics 26yrs too, wouldve thought that you might have worked that out, with my desciption off how the job used to be when veiwed with the rose tinted specs removed :wink:

good glad to hear there is another driver around who remembers gear boxes or how the job was at one time, sorry to hear your now in favor of the take over by polland or the lack of skill in today drivers, for i take with me 26 accident free years from the game, apart from the odd lens or mirror incident over all that time its not been a bad record at all

now of course your cpc card that now makes you an expert in the game is valued more than a guy with all that experience, its total crazy but like i said for me i put 2 fingers up to it, just because your didnt have the balls to do it along with the countless others, you will have no one to blame at the mess its in today other than yourselves, i just wonder what the next thing will be for drivers and will they ever think with there brains that they could change things but only if they stuck together and people like you wouldnt do it that much is clear as your to much of a yes man

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BillyHunt:
I think we all know it was a pointless exercise for the vast majority of drivers. You should start to see exactly how useful it was when the usual questions keep popping up on here.

The thing is it isn’t a pointless exercise for the vast majority of drivers. They may think it is but nobody doing the courses knows everything about that course.

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desypete:

eddie snax:
PS I’ve been on artics 26yrs too, wouldve thought that you might have worked that out, with my desciption off how the job used to be when veiwed with the rose tinted specs removed :wink:

good glad to hear there is another driver around who remembers gear boxes or how the job was at one time, sorry to hear your now in favor of the take over by polland or the lack of skill in today drivers, for i take with me 26 accident free years from the game, apart from the odd lens or mirror incident over all that time its not been a bad record at all

Agreed, thats a fine record, better than mine, thats for sure :blush:

I just dont understand why you find the cpc so offensive, a little pointless in its present form, maybe, but to throw away your driving career, and to allow your driving record to become inconsequencial, just appears an over reaction :confused:

desypete:
now of course your cpc card that now makes you an expert in the game is valued more than a guy with all that experience, its total crazy but like i said for me i put 2 fingers up to it, just because your didnt have the balls to do it along with the countless others, you will have no one to blame at the mess its in today other than yourselves, i just wonder what the next thing will be for drivers and will they ever think with there brains that they could change things but only if they stuck together and people like you wouldnt do it that much is clear as your to much of a yes man

I not sure what you think is going to happen, I know what I hope is going to happen, within this industry. Thats a Driver shortage leading to better terms and conditions, we can only wait on :wink:

As for putting 2 fingers up the industry, I dont feel so aggreaved that I find it necessery. And as for sticking together, I’ve taken part in industrial action, more than once, but it never did any good. seems that only commercial preasure has any effect :unamused:

Yes Man :open_mouth: you should talk to some off my former employers, Yes I’m a team player for want off a better expresion, and will when ever possible say Yes, but I dont get walked over, as My employment record might suggest :wink:

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eddie snax:
‘… I do think that you have singlied the wrong culprit for Post Office closures, you need to it run past the national political class, not the EU political class…’

I understand in paraphrase that it was the EU that dictated all EU ‘State’ members were to have privatised Post Office ‘systems’

As such under the EU’s diktat, Post Offices were not to be nationalised as our successful model was.

Thus, Mr Vince Cable and other pro-EU Westminster & lickspittle MEP equivalents Liberally gave it to the Money Market - despite the years of (post 1970’s) efficiency and cultural significance that the British Royal Mail historically had :cry:

eddie snax:
‘…As hard as you may try, some things are just not the fault of the EU…’

I totally accept that hit - but whinge-on to illustrate how insideously intrusive, inefficient and undemocratic that expensive organisation is at almost every twist & turn of daily life yet which too often goes unrealised by us prole’s on the street :unamused: