It stinks like a big stinky cat ■■■, from a cat that’s eaten too much blue cheese and consequently has tummy troubles.
If you choose to go to a random place based on cheapness and your belief that its worthless and you’re only intending to sit there for 7 hours so what does it matter where you go then yeah I bet you do think it stinks.
OTOH if you decide that as you’re going to have to spend £60-£80 on 7hrs training so you might as well get the best value for your money and you choose a decent training place that does modules which you think would be of some benefit then you’ll get some worth out of doing the course.
I’ve not seen one single person, myself included, who has done a module and been 100% correct. What I have seen and heard is a whole load of stupid and its usually coming out of the mouths of those who protest the loudest about it being a waste of time. Some of the comments made by some of them genuinely made me worried that I share the roads with these people.
There was one genius who was talking about the Mercedes EPS gearbox and saying how crap it was, how it was no good and how you got stuck all the time with it. Genuinely convinced that it was the gearbox that is crap, not the driver. Was funny seeing him bluster and splutter as the DCPC trainer told him that the snow ploughs he drives in winter have Mercedes EPS boxes and he doesn’t get stuck.
Conor:
If you choose to go to a random place based on cheapness and your belief that its worthless and you’re only intending to sit there for 7 hours so what does it matter where you go then yeah I bet you do think it stinks.
And I said I went to a random place because it was cheap where exactly? And did you watch the vid or just write this based on what you think it contains? Because if you watched it you would have seen me say I think the concept of periodic training is a good idea and I’m ready and willing to learn new things and get my moneys worth…so maybe you should have watched it eh?
I agree it a complete crock of crap,i did the exact same day watching the same videos twice,but im not surprised its been brought in ,some of the questions that have been brought up on t/net about hours and how to get places lately shock me,its their job ffs,i dont know if people post them to get people going but its scarey to think these people are let loose with a lorry 
Conor:
OTOH if you decide that as you’re going to have to spend £60-£80 on 7hrs training so you might as well get the best value for your money and you choose a decent training place that does modules which you think would be of some benefit then you’ll get some worth out of doing the course.
But why would anyone spend more than they have to on this crock of ■■■■, called dcpc ? so matter how much you spend you are still going to have to endure 7hrs of mind numbing babble, unless you do your forklift course or hiab or adr, but if you don’t want or need them why pay more and be out of pocket ?
Conor:
There was one genius who was talking about the Mercedes EPS gearbox and saying how crap it was, how it was no good and how you got stuck all the time with it. Genuinely convinced that it was the gearbox that is crap, not the driver. Was funny seeing him bluster and splutter as the DCPC trainer told him that the snow ploughs he drives in winter have Mercedes EPS boxes and he doesn’t get stuck.
the new merc axor gearboxes are crap so are the trucks
Not having done the periodic stuff, the initial CPC stuff needs work too.
Conor:
‘…The DCPC stinks…’
Agreed.
In it’s current federalised, patronising, hugely overblown and ill-implemented form it is wholly inapproriate.
But what would our politicians know or care when they’ve:
1 Scotland to buy-back/pacify
2 Ukraine to ■■■■ up to (My MP is the European Minister & is currently thus busy irritating the Ruskies - on whose doorstep Ukraine resides)
3 Israel to debate
4 ‘Immigration and diversity’ to force us into accepting
5 Oh yes, radical Islamic nutters to irritate even more (caused by feeling disenfranchised by our liberal cheapness assisted by an understood loathing of smug and distant politics being preached upon them by foreign, clueless infidels: Sound familiar, anyone?)
6 Etc, etc, etc
…and enough hypocrisy to feast upon until their bloated self importance - whilst remaining oblivious to real-life and inefficient working demands made upon us prole’s qualifies them for an EU job, a Lordship and finally a fat pension 
I only reckon the DCPC ■■■■■ - whilst the Big Picture viewed by ‘Bird of HK’ is that it’s The Book of Revellation incarnate which is hard to argue against
The DCPC deadline created an easy opportunity for people, like the company Luke used, to make money. I’d like to think that now the deadline has passed & drivers have got their blue cards, it will be harder in future for people to get away with such shambolic ‘training’ as drivers /employers paying for their drivers shop around to spend their money on something actually interesting & maybe even worthwhile.
Luke - why not name & shame this company? DCPC isn’t going away so I think it’d be good if drivers on here going forward could discuss companies that are good and those worth avoiding.
I agree with Switch, the concept of ongoing training was a great idea, but the manner it takes is ■■■■■■
I did mine with two separate companies, 4 modules with one firm in St Albans and 1 in MK. The one in MK, I named on here while I was on the course, as it was so terrible, in fact it was so bad I can’t even remember the name as I have clearly blocked it from my memory.
However the one in St Albans was brilliant, run by a bloke who used to be a driver, then a driver trainer/assessor, then a TM, now running a DCPC centre. He is clearly a top bloke, and has a gift for being able to hold a room.
However even he wasn’t perfect, when straying into areas he hadn’t encountered in his career such as talking about Hiabs, he was working off material on a slide, and inferred something that wasn’t on the slides and wasn’t true.
I guess the point I’m trying to make, is that I think that a DCPC trainer should be an expert in the field they are trying to teach and have some experience in that field. So I don’t mind that you can sit First Aid, or manual handling as a DCPC course, because as a lorry driver you might well have cause to handball a load, and while I don’t think that topic would require 7 hours to do it thoroughly, could save you the agony of a bad back. Equally First Aid has got bugger all to do with driving but if every lorry driver on the road knew a bit of basic First Aid, how could that be a bad thing?
But if I was to sit either of the above I would want it to be taught by someone who had lifted a couple bags of sand every now and again for a living, or maybe someone who has actually plugged a couple of bleeding holes.
Keep posting the vids Luke they are great.
F-reds:
I agree with Switch, the concept of ongoing training was a great idea, but the manner it takes is [zb].I did mine with two separate companies, 4 modules with one firm in St Albans and 1 in MK. The one in MK, I named on here while I was on the course, as it was so terrible, in fact it was so bad I can’t even remember the name as I have clearly blocked it from my memory.
However the one in St Albans was brilliant, run by a bloke who used to be a driver, then a driver trainer/assessor, then a TM, now running a DCPC centre. He is clearly a top bloke, and has a gift for being able to hold a room.
However even he wasn’t perfect, when straying into areas he hadn’t encountered in his career such as talking about Hiabs, he was working off material on a slide, and inferred something that wasn’t on the slides and wasn’t true.
I guess the point I’m trying to make, is that I think that a DCPC trainer should be an expert in the field they are trying to teach and have some experience in that field. So I don’t mind that you can sit First Aid, or manual handling as a DCPC course, because as a lorry driver you might well have cause to handball a load, and while I don’t think that topic would require 7 hours to do it thoroughly, could save you the agony of a bad back. Equally First Aid has got bugger all to do with driving but if every lorry driver on the road knew a bit of basic First Aid, how could that be a bad thing?
But if I was to sit either of the above I would want it to be taught by someone who had lifted a couple bags of sand every now and again for a living, or maybe someone who has actually plugged a couple of bleeding holes.Keep posting the vids Luke they are great.
I would of thought that First Aid was a no brainer for truckers given that we are always on the road. There was that post here that a trucker saved anothers life when he was having a stroke. Kinda need a bit of First Aid training for that.
rob22888:
Luke - why not name & shame this company? DCPC isn’t going away so I think it’d be good if drivers on here going forward could discuss companies that are good and those worth avoiding.
I’ve complained and I want to see how they deal with it first. Despite what Conor may assume above they aren’t a random company I picked out of a hat but one I’ve used several times over the years. The ADR courses I did with them were good so it would be unfair to condemn them over one instructor but I have let them know my feelings and we’ll where it leads.
Thanks for comments people, interesting points made. Glad to see I’m not the only Trucknetter that thinks regular training is in theory a good thing.
I’ve always agreed about training Luke …Just the way its been implemented ie no testing not even the basic’s
One of the days training i had one of the blokes starting playing ;happy;by pharrel williams half way thru the day to liven things up,the bloke taking the course found it funny though
Radar19:
I would of thought that First Aid was a no brainer for truckers given that we are always on the road. There was that post here that a trucker saved anothers life when he was having a stroke. Kinda need a bit of First Aid training for that.
Stuff like first aid training falls into the category of ‘worthwhile’ in my opinion. I don’t think many drivers would begrudge one day out a year to do something like first aid training, SAFED training or to be refreshed on the latest requirements for load security etc. Especially if the courses have a a practical element, not just bums on seats. Obviously, if your paying for it yourself it’d be nice to have a choice, but it’d certainly make the whole DCPC feel like it has value.
Drivers sitting in hotel conference rooms being bored to tears by a Powerpoint presentation about how to safely/enter a vehicle i’m sure is not what DCPC was dreamed up for.
If training is needed it should be provided by employers prior to the job commencing.
You won’t get anywhere complaining about the quality of training with the authorities any response you do get will just be lip service.
The reason is, and it’s there in black and white in the original directive, is to encourage young drivers to join the industry because governments were panicking at the ageing profile of drivers across the EU.
It’s not accidental that it’s pointless, patronising and has plainly absurd features like the same module being repeatedly taken, as it’s designed to encourage older, more experienced drivers to leave. It’s also designed to make it preferable and easier for a new young driver to join the industry rather than someone who’s left, and whose dcpc has lapsed, rejoin.
It is also hoped it appeals to young people who have been conditioned by the modern education system that self-worth comes with pointless paper certficates. It’s ingenious because the whole thing required little funding, or organisational effort, by governments and has created a raft of parasitical trainer non-jobs. They won’t care if it all disappears or fades away in future provided it serves its purpose of getting young drivers in.
The problem is there’s always too many morons eager to jump on whatever idiot express the government rolls into the station just because it ‘sounds’ like a good idea and eager to do the government’s work for them by trying to smear anyone that cautiously suggests that perhaps it isn’t. Previous examples would be ‘the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq’ express along with many others.
The fact that you can do the same bloody module for 5 days running and it still counts toward your 35 hours is testament enough for me that its a complete and utter load of crap!
Not to mention the fact that the trainer was adamant you needed a 30 minute break after 6 hours work!
He also said it was “Impossible” to over load a front axle on a truck and the real clincher- “speed camera vans are not ANPR and don’t recognise HGV’s”
WTF!!
Kitchen roll on the bunk. Classy.
Contraflow:
Kitchen roll on the bunk. Classy.
Aye, I noticed that. Nice touch Luke.
Contraflow:
Kitchen roll on the bunk. Classy.
I know, awful isn’t it. I should have remembered to put it back in the kitchen roll holder in the kitchen…oh, wait…