jammymutt:
Yes Lucy it is a trucking but Bullys is not about trucking its about airing views on other things untruck related isnt it■■?.
I was thinking the same thing jammy… as it states under the forum heading for Bully’s. “anything but trucking”, is what I think it says.
The problem isn’t with the majority of immigrants in any country. We have a huge immigrant population too. And for the most part they try to fit in, adapt, and respect the way of life here. They don’t usually move because of a dislike for their own culture, its generally for political or religious freedom issues, or to escape poverty. And who can blame them. You’d do the same if it meant a better way of life for you and your family as well. I’ve seen plenty of posts in here about how much better off an ex-pat is since moving to the US than they were in Britain, and plenty of posts from people trying to figure out how to get here… As well as complaints about the language usage, differences in traditions and they way of life here. After all, they chose to come here just as the immigrants in Britain chose to go there. So lets not be too hypocritical.
It’s normal to try to maintain a level of native culture. This may not be a great comparison, but it’s not much different than Patrick wanting to celebrate British holidays and traditions here. It’s meaningless to us but may be important to him. Just like I’d like to celebrate American ones if I lived there. Its the few that don’t keep it private, have a political agenda and try to change the country they move to into what they couldn’t make of their home country that are causing the problems. If you have a problem with the social programs that the UK offers to these immigrants, then take it up with law makers… they’re the ones responsible for that.
It’s a global community … cultures spill over into other cultures, and its always been that way. Ignore what you don’t like and what doesn’t pertain to you. The cultural differences can’t effect you unless you let it. As far as immigrant workers doing the same job for less money, and lowering the standard wage for certain jobs,… its that way everywhere. Keep in mind that what they are paid there seems like a fortune compared to what they had. And I doubt that they even know how much less they make, because if they did, they would be crying discrimination about that too, wouldn’t they? Its the British employers that are exploiting them, not the other way around. And if immigrants can’t speak English, who’s it really hurting… they’re the ones with the communication problem, right?
And just a note on that topic… after doing some research to establish Sadie’s joint citizenship, I’ve found that the immigration procedures in the UK require that anyone filing for residency are required to prove that they can support themselves free of govermental aid for as long as they are living in the UK. If we moved there, I would have to prove that Patricks income was sufficient to support us, or that I’m qualified enough to find a job that can help him support us. We wouldn’t even be entitled to the child allowance. I can’t imagine the laws would be different for immigrants from other countries besides the US, unless you’re talking about immigrants who claim asylum, thats a bit different. But in general, immigration laws are standard, aren’t they? And like the US, they are also implementing an English language exam, though I’m not sure when that takes affect.
