Tesco strike part 2

[toonsy]

Noremac:

stu675:

Noremac:
So no industrial action before Christmas. Seems like a long drawn-out process; every time there is a new offer, the whole process goes back two steps. If the percentages were convincing for rejecting I would say the members still have at least another rejection in them.

What percentage would you be willing to accept?

Sorry I meant if a high percentage of the members voted to reject, there may still be some scope for a further rejection.

It was overwhelming but I also think the latest deal will be enough to go through because people…

1. Could see inflation going up and therefore could see a below inflation raise.

2. Felt a bit like they were having the proverbial taken in light of much trumpeted record profit forecasts and other wage rises elsewhere.

3. Just want to get know with it now and it will be a nice bit of backpack for all.

[toonsy]

Speaking to a chap at an USDAW site as we’ve seen nothing official yet, but he asked me what I thought and after saying I’d seen nothing oroper he reeled it off to me so with a pinch of salt…

Introduction of paid breaks.

5.5% now backdated to July. Another 0.5% in February.

Two extra days holiday for two years, after that you get one extra but forever.

I say its info from a third party but seems to chime with the kind of thing I’ve heard. Paid breaks is a decent hit and should be standard across the industry anyway IMO.

[selby_newcomer]

toonsy:
Speaking to a chap at an USDAW site as we’ve seen nothing official yet, but he asked me what I thought and after saying I’d seen nothing oroper he reeled it off to me so with a pinch of salt…

Introduction of paid breaks.

5.5% now backdated to July. Another 0.5% in February.

Two extra days holiday for two years, after that you get one extra but forever.

I say its info from a third party but seems to chime with the kind of thing I’ve heard. Paid breaks is a decent hit and should be standard across the industry anyway IMO.

I heard the same about paid breaks yesterday, I spoke to a rep who replied “that’s wishful thinking”

As far as he’s aware, it’s as you’ve mentioned, minus paid breaks.

As you say, paid breaks should be standard.

[karl67]

payed breaks have been offered to some dcs not all, ie lichfield.

[dimlaith]

If that’s the case something is seriously wrong! I’m voting a big fat NO.

[big_truck]

selby newcomer:

toonsy:
Speaking to a chap at an USDAW site as we’ve seen nothing official yet, but he asked me what I thought and after saying I’d seen nothing oroper he reeled it off to me so with a pinch of salt…

Introduction of paid breaks.

5.5% now backdated to July. Another 0.5% in February.

Two extra days holiday for two years, after that you get one extra but forever.

I say its info from a third party but seems to chime with the kind of thing I’ve heard. Paid breaks is a decent hit and should be standard across the industry anyway IMO.

I heard the same about paid breaks yesterday, I spoke to a rep who replied “that’s wishful thinking”

As far as he’s aware, it’s as you’ve mentioned, minus paid breaks.

As you say, paid breaks should be standard.

Paid breaks is a new one to me also!!!

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[karl67]

[winseer]

That looks like a pretty damned decent deal actually…!

If that was put on the table as an “improved offer” by Tesco rather than squeezed out of them on demand by the Union - then fair play to Tesco for pulling the legs off any notion of a strike from here on, which quite frankly would be sticking pins in your own eyes for the sake of it, from where I’m standing…

As has already been stated, “Paid Breaks” is a good hit, as it actually lowers the differential between Full Timer and Agency, who will presumably still be getting docked their hour for breaks… Less Resentment of said agency - can only improve rather than detriment the working atmosphere, methinks…

There’s also another dimension to all this:

The recent pike in inflation has been correctly used to lever a more generous pay round settlement and all…

BUT it would be an even bigger coup for the Union right now - if Inflation then TANKED come January, as I suspect it might well do!

We’re told that Gas, Electric, Road Fuel, and Second Hand Cars - have pushed up inflation as much as they have.

I notice as of Yesterday - that forecourt prices now seem to be coming back somewhat, with a couple of places quoting 138.9 on the unleaded boards just last night, 15th December… This would have been too late for THIS month’s spiked inflation figures, but will now be on January’s…

Bulb and other energy firms going ■■■■-up of late, will also mean that the “Energy Price Cap” now does NOT need to be removed or revoked by the Government at a time when the public really do NOT need it going up any further FFS…

The Public, meanwhile - are already clawing back, and economising for that other thing that happened today - the hike in Interest rates to 0.25% from 0.1% - An increase of 150% in an interest-only base rate tracker+0% deal that a fair few people around the country are going to be on, increasing that mortgage interest payment by £20 per month, which is nonetheless £20 you don’t then get to spend on ■■■■■■■ it up a wall new year’s eve, or maybe a slightly smaller turkey for next week…

All rather pushes DOWN demand all the sharper in the New Year to come - doesn’t it?

Agreeing this pay deal by year’s end in time then - seems like a good move for workers and union, and Tescos themselves will be satisfied that industrial relations will be calm going into the new year, which cannot be a bad thing.

[toonsy]

The unpaid breaks is a bit of a folly really, you just make sure you get it back in other ways anyway so I suspect that if breaks are paid you’ll find people miraculously getting back to the yard around 45 mins earlier…

Reference inflation it wint tank until spring. Compare it against 12 months ago when most of the country was in tier (tears? ) restriction wise, Christmas was all but cancelled in terms if being a large family event, travel was all but impossible and being realistic the country is far more open now than it was then and thus supply/demand for allsorts is greater now than it was then.

[winseer]

toonsy:
The unpaid breaks is a bit of a folly really, you just make sure you get it back in other ways anyway so I suspect that if breaks are paid you’ll find people miraculously getting back to the yard around 45 mins earlier…

Reference inflation it wint tank until spring. Compare it against 12 months ago when most of the country was in tier (tears? ) restriction wise, Christmas was all but cancelled in terms if being a large family event, travel was all but impossible and being realistic the country is far more open now than it was then and thus supply/demand for allsorts is greater now than it was then.

Indeed. This new “Pseudo” Lockdown - will just be an opportunity for people to waste their money by getting it to chase fewer avilable goods and services - the very acme of inflation creating deliberately.

[selby_newcomer]

karl67:
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Well, that seems decent to me, just gotta wait & see if we’re offered that at our place, next talks due on 21/12.

Only thing we’ve already got from that offer is the higher weekend premium, we’ve had that for a couple of years already.

[toonsy]

selby newcomer:

karl67:
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Well, that seems decent to me, just gotta wait & see if we’re offered that at our place, next talks due on 21/12.

Only thing we’ve already got from that offer is the higher weekend premium, we’ve had that for a couple of years already.

Yeah thats why I’m waiting to see what our offer is, because it’s all (rightly or wrongly) different terms for different DCs.

I did try to look at our union notice board thing yesterday but viren dozens of drivers crammed into a small space and didn’t fancy it.

[toonsy]

This is our offer

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[franglais]

toonsy:
This is our offer

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Go on then!
What’s a frozen jam buster?

[dozy]

If that pay rise was taken in isolation it would be good , but most have had lot bigger pay rises than that , 3 pay rises in a year , 20/30 % over a year in the last year , so to me it’s made what in the past was a better paid job to just your average paid job
I would think Tesco would be very happy to get away with that pay rise , they’d of been looking around them and thinking this will cost us , think they will be giving the union a pat on the back for the job they’ve done for them here !!

[toonsy]

Franglais:

toonsy:
This is our offer

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Go on then!
What’s a frozen jam buster?

No idea. Never heard of it at my place nor seen it in action.

The childish part of me wants it to be a person who has the sole job of removing jam off the freezer floor

[dimlaith]

Looks the same as our offer, but we have been told that the new contract drivers get the extra personal day.

[franglais]

toonsy:

Franglais:

toonsy:
This is our offer

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Go on then!
What’s a frozen jam buster?

No idea. Never heard of it at my place nor seen it in action.

The childish part of me wants it to be a person who has the sole job of removing jam off the freezer floor

Mayhap you`re right.
Better to have our own images rather than look at what a mundane job it might really be.

[selby_newcomer]

toonsy:
This is our offer

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How many previous offers have they made you??

We’ve only balloted on 1 offer, which was rejected, next talks due 21/12

[toonsy]

selby newcomer:

toonsy:
This is our offer

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How many previous offers have they made you??

We’ve only balloted on 1 offer, which was rejected, next talks due 21/12

We refused 2% then 3.3% then we got this offer. But our talks coincided with the deals offered to other DCs so guess it just made sense to offer similar as a reduced offer was never going to fly. I suspect in your next round you’ll get something similar offered because everyone knows the kind of deals being offered elsewhere.