Anyone who can not make good money by owning Tarmac with its quarries , concrete all over the place can not be much good at the job, I dont think the Europeans like the idea to much because from what I have heard they are looking into it regarding it being to much of a monoply in some areas,I think they will have to cut it up as with what went on when Tilcon joined Tarmac some years ago
fuse:
Anyone who can not make good money by owning Tarmac with its quarries , concrete all over the place can not be much good at the job, I dont think the Europeans like the idea to much because from what I have heard they are looking into it regarding it being to much of a monoply in some areas,I think they will have to cut it up as with what went on when Tilcon joined Tarmac some years ago
Its Anglo American that own tarmac.Tarmac is only the name they trade as in this country.
Dave the Renegade:
fuse:
Anyone who can not make good money by owning Tarmac with its quarries , concrete all over the place can not be much good at the job, I dont think the Europeans like the idea to much because from what I have heard they are looking into it regarding it being to much of a monoply in some areas,I think they will have to cut it up as with what went on when Tilcon joined Tarmac some years agoIts Anglo American that own tarmac.Tarmac is only the name they trade as in this country.
Yes Dave, quite correct. Tilcon were already part of that group before Tarmac were absorbed, and life was never the same after!! For some strange reason the ‘powers that be’ thought that the Tarmac name had a good reputation in the world of construction! 
Pete.
Roll on 16th February when this will be settled.
Hopefully in favour of the Merger
mixer driver too:
Roll on 16th February when this will be settled.
Hopefully in favour of the Merger
Why do you hope it goes through out of interest? I would have thought it would involve even more plant closures and hassle as the two lots of management engage in a mass willy-waving contest.
hammer:
mixer driver too:
Roll on 16th February when this will be settled.
Hopefully in favour of the MergerWhy do you hope it goes through out of interest? I would have thought it would involve even more plant closures and hassle as the two lots of management engage in a mass willy-waving contest.
Bearing in mind Im a C/Haulier delivering concrete I believe it will widen the area of work and customer base especially in my area of South Wales. There couldnt possibly be any more hassle and perhaps they will change the way shipping offices work by reverting to plant shipping. Just my personal view on it all
Are you on for Lafarge or Tarmac?
I’m assuming Tarmac and I’m also assuming you’re controlled by somebody miles away not a batcher/weighbridgeman?
hammer:
Are you on for Lafarge or Tarmac?I’m assuming Tarmac and I’m also assuming you’re controlled by somebody miles away not a batcher/weighbridgeman?
Yes, Im Tarmac. Luckily for South Wales we are batcher shipped (for the moment) but our transport office is Bristol and everywhere out of Wales is controlled centrally by the shippers in an office. We are required "by law" to travel on transfer to their area quite regularly and when we do, make no profit. They consistantly over truck the work and just cant grasp how much work a mixer can do in a day and how much it needs to earn
mixer driver too:
hammer:
Are you on for Lafarge or Tarmac?I’m assuming Tarmac and I’m also assuming you’re controlled by somebody miles away not a batcher/weighbridgeman?
Yes, I
m Tarmac. Luckily for South Wales we are batcher shipped (for the moment) but our transport office is Bristol and everywhere out of Wales is controlled centrally by the shippers in an office. We are required "by law" to travel on transfer to their area quite regularly and when we do, make no profit. They consistantly over truck the work and just cant grasp how much work a mixer can do in a day and how much it needs to earn
Thought so. How they think it makes the job better when they don’t know the area at all or understand the job or the haulier. You’re a number on a screen and the work is just a number that needs reducing as quickly as possible. Hope it gets better for you.
TheFan46:
mixer driver too:
TheFan46:
was reading this earler looks like he merger could be in doubt
telegraph.co.uk/finance/news … ation.htmlIts my personal thought that they will get their merger. Both Tarmac and lafarge looked into this months before announcing it and wouldn
t spend millions on planning if they thought they wouldnt get their way.
Many concrete plants and quarries that clash with each other will either be closed or sold off to the likes of Breedon Aggregates who have £50million to spend on assets that have to be disposed of for the merger.
Thus increasing competition in some areasAs long as they don’t start medling with MQP (Tarmac and Hanson jv) it should be ok…
[/quote]MQP has to be sold if the merger goes ahead. Its one of the CC decisions I`m afraid
I know but I’m not to worried as there will deffinatley be a buyer with what MQP has with Cliffe hill and also with reserves at groby + Whitwick it won’t close 
Tarmac in £2bn merger with Lafarge
Friday 18th February 2011, 11:30AM GMT.
Historic concrete business Tarmac is being merged in a deal worth more than £2 billion, it was announced today.
The move creates uncertainty for 500 people who work at the company’s base in Wolverhampton. The company is merging with the UK arm of French quarrying giant Lafarge.
No decision has been taken about where the new business will be based, raising fears for the future of Tarmac’s base in Millfields Road, Ettingshall.
Tarmac, which has assets of £1.6bn, is the senior partner in the merger.
Lafarge’s cement business is based at Portland House in Solihull, while its aggregates and concrete arm is at Syston in Leicestershire.
Tarmac’s owner, mining group Anglo-American, bought the Wolverhampton business shortly after it split from its construction arm Carillion in 1999.
Today it moved quickly to quell fears that the merger will mean major redundancies among the 7,300 staff at the two companies, although staff could be transferred if plants close.
Predicted savings of £60 million a year would come from merging operations and increased sales, rather than cuts, the company said.
Today’s surprise announcement comes after Anglo-American has spent years trying to find a buyer for the Tarmac business.
Anglo chief executive Cynthia Carroll said today: “This transaction positions us well to maximise value.”
Under the deal, a single business will be created jointly owned by Anglo American and Lafarge’s French parent company.
Combined sales of the businesses were around £1.8bn last year, with profits of about £210m.
Tarmac is the UK’s largest quarrying company and has been involved in some of the UK’s biggest construction projects including Wembley Stadium and the M1 widening.
Read more: expressandstar.com/news/2011 … z1ELRGK226
hi vis bubble rap for drivers will be on its way then!
thought tarmac were about bolloxed,what with the beam plants due for closure,could some quarrys be next?
heard about this earlyer 
Tarmac on here will be able to post up info on this
Mate of mine is a site agent for them at Leeds, and he rung me today to tell me the news.
It will create the biggest construction company in the UK according to him.
Ken.
Is this just the concrete business or the whole thing?
hammer:
Is this just the concrete business or the whole thing?
Whole thing by the looks of it Hammer,just have a look at the press release.
I wonder if they will ditch the name or keep the two as separate businesses?
Probably separate for a while, then merge them in time.
From the press release;
This bit…
"This combination is expected to deliver substantial recurring synergies of at least £60 million ($96 million) per annum. Such synergies are expected to be generated by increased operational efficiencies, improved logistics, the introduction of value-added products across a wider geographic reach and other opportunities. "
…“recurring synergies” is management bullsh1ut speak for “job losses” and the “improved logistics” bit means more computers and more planners who wouldn’t know a lorry from a wheelie bin sitting in an office about 150miles away I would imagine. 
Would think it’s only a matter of time before the French flag is flying on it’s own.