Ridgid multidrop…around 50-hrs a week…tues to sat…work every other monday (overtime)…take home pay …around £1200 a month…
NewLad:
trubster:
NewLad:
Winseer:
kr79:
I hope you spend your own wages on kelsa bars and polish.I spend my wages on kelsa bars, but I understand Turners spend theirs on the Polish…
Do you have a stereotype for every company out there?
Ohhhhh yes…
But I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick with “Polish”
no I got the ‘joke’ but your obviously qot an issue with either Turners or Foreign drivers who work at Turners. Whats wrong did you fail the assessment?
Not at all, never failed nor been on any driving assesment since passing my driving test
eddie snax:
Winseer:
How many have a job that’s 36 hours a week in line with other industry?55-60 hours a week for the same pay as a 36 hour worker outside haulage gets is slavery, let alone 84+ hours a week. It’s the hours that are wrong in the haulage business, rather than the cash.
I dont think you’ll find that people are earning as much as you think in other Industries for an hourly rate, neither are we as an industry, but workers on the high street and clerical positions in offices are as poorly paid as driving, none of it is right. Even the big money to be made in building has gone for the time being, and mostly you had to be self employed to earn it, and alot off people dont want the agro.
If there was such good wages in 7-8 hour day industries why has the government bought in a £500 benefit cap. to read some of the posts in this thread, you’d believe that all other jobs are paying £15 an hour and clearly that is a lie. like many on here, these workers will be getting tax credits and even housing benefit due to their poor wages. its a country wide issue for average wokers in whatever industry.
I just don’t know where we get our ideas from about other industries doing a 7-8 hours day, obviously some of us are not on the same planet and have some worrying signs of paranoia?
The well paying 7 hours a day job are rare as rocking horse zb, they hardly exist! Most are on a 9-10 hour day in most parts of the economy and the ones that are doing the 7-8 hours a day are usually on minimum wage and you don’t earn much from that!
I’ll know I’ll upset a few on here saying the truth, but this isn’t the only hard job in the world. Hell most would say it is easy some days and hard others. Guess what so is nearly every other job in the world; quelle suprise!
Three examples:
My missus has one of the easiest jobs in the world (her exact words - PA to a University Doctor) and is paid more than me, contracted 38, average 42 and then add on another 20 hours a week commuting to meetings/office etc. So she’s starting to catch us up, if some of us live close to the depot that is.
Good friend of mine works as a junior doctor, just started out last year, average 45 hour week - sometimes more if things go wrong, cover etc. He’s earning less than most stated on here in all honesty. As for their “contracted” supplements of out-of-hours over 40 hour week, lets just say in the cut backs they sometimes get “forgotten” where convenient to save money…sound familiar to other jobs?!
Loves the job and is born for it, so he will go far. But all depends on exam results and a place being available for his specialism will take a long time due to the competition, hopefully it will pay off, but it will be a long struggle.
All of his studying will be done for “free” to better himself and that would definitely take him over a 65 hour week easily fitting that in around work etc!
Finally working in a barrister’s house this week, he was greeting us at the door leaving for work at 0700, short commute in central London (WC1N). Usual day speaking to his wife is 15 hours until he leaves the office for home, six days a week. However could be more hours if problems with the case . If really bad he’ll do a half day on Sunday, but that affects his only time with his 4 children. Also depending on case he’ll work different hours especially if on a international case and would then have to be at the correct time zone for the country he’s dealing with accordingly any time of the day required.
So to average these hours above out (to an average 35 hours a week) we need another 3 people to match them and do an 11 hour week! Can’t see anyone living on them huge hours, can you. Trouble is most people are being paid for a 35 hour week and having to a do a lot more free!
Fact is in history you have to put the hours in to earn money. Regardless of what you do, be it a lorry driver, cleaner, teacher, nurse, soldier, doctor, salesman etc, etc.
C
Class 2 multi, Mon- Fri nights, no weekends, no bank holidays, no nights (days) out. Shifts average about 11 hours all in (less if you’re James Hunt ) Basic salary circa £25k
Does me till I have the pennies for C+E
Constantine:
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I just don’t know where we get our ideas from about other industries doing a 7-8 hours day, obviously some of us are not on the same planet and have some worrying signs of paranoia?The well paying 7 hours a day job are rare as rocking horse zb, they hardly exist! Most are on a 9-10 hour day in most parts of the economy and the ones that are doing the 7-8 hours a day are usually on minimum wage and you don’t earn much from that!
I’ll know I’ll upset a few on here saying the truth, but this isn’t the only hard job in the world. Hell most would say it is easy some days and hard others. Guess what so is nearly every other job in the world; quelle suprise!
C
Hear hear, well said. I tried to put it better myself, but you nailed it.
I got couple off examples to add, Ex girlfriend I used to live with 20 years ago, she worked for a high street bank, even after working for them for 10 years she only banked £600 a month.
More up to date, a mate off mine has just started work driving a truck for a scaffolding firm, told me his hourly rate which is good, start around 7am finish about 6pm most days no nights out. But he is absolutly knackered ■■■■■■■ all that scaffolding, he says he understands why the money is so good now, its hard physical graft
eddie snax:
Hear hear, well said. I tried to put it better myself, but you nailed it.More up to date, a mate off mine has just started work driving a truck for a scaffolding firm, told me his hourly rate which is good, start around 7am finish about 6pm most days no nights out. But he is absolutly knackered ■■■■■■■ all that scaffolding, he says he understands why the money is so good now, its hard physical graft
You nailed it already Eddie,
I just put some personal examples that I know of to back up the statements you and NewLad have said on this post. Also other drivers on here (Switchlogic, Saaamon, Scaniason) have said the same before about other jobs on this same very repetitive subject (Everyone does less hours than me and I only earn one shilling and sixpence per week driving 100 hours and the other 68 hours I was doing other work, blah, blah, blah, poor me).
I should know by now to walk away from this subject, but for some reason I come back to it every time…
Other drivers I know from here, local and far away from me, know the right HGV job is very good and shouldn’t be squandered. They also have a rounded personality to have done other jobs before driving and know that often they are harder, more hours and less pay than driving too!
But I’m beginning to realise that some people say everyone elses job is easy and they should get more than them. Only recently on the tube this week and heard two businessmen openly talking saying tube drivers shouldn’t get as much money as they do and the job is really easy! Like they’d zbing know the truth on that!
I bet they don’t even know there are people working 24 hours a day in reality. Most probably the similar ilk that thinks the world gets up when they do and it goes to bed when they do!
Seen them scaffolding jobs round my area, its as if they can’t fill the vacancies Most drivers “supposedly start at £13p/h” and that’s driving and moving tubes. Part 1 Scaffolder if you’ve got the balls and know how with a licence £17p/h and a a Part 2 Scaffolder if you are totally insane was £21p/h!
However after working 10 years around scaffolders, I know I could never do their job. I could do the labourer bit and try it out though, not sure how long I would last or would they knacker me out. But for that money I might get fit and have a day job with good money…hang on what they zb am I doing here wasting time, I need to be applying for that
C
Constantine:
However after working 10 years around scaffolders, I know I could never do their job. I could do the labourer bit and try it out though, not sure how long I would last or would they knacker me out. But for that money I might get fit and have a day job with good money…hang on what they zb am I doing here wasting time, I need to be applying for thatC
Mnay yaers ago (85-86) I did 18 months or so roofing as a labourer, I didnt bat an eyelid at the graft at that time, I was young and stupid, we were a small gang doing mainly domestic work, everthing had to carried up by hand, and depending on what it was carried back down, you just got on and did it, and it was a great laugh. I only stopped because I wanted to drive and got a job driving a 7.5 tonner for a builders merchant.
About 1999-2000, a bloke whom I used to work with told me he had to get his extension roof renewed, so I says to him that we could do it ourselves, save him a bit off cash and put a bit off cash in my pocket. We duly arranged to take some time off at the same time hire some scaffold and cracked on, it nearly killed me, I didnt realise how physicaly fit I must have been when I was roofing for a living, muscles ached that I didnt know I had, anyway job done I vowed never to moan about my easy life job again, and mostly I dont.
As a roofer I didnt put in the hours I do as a driver, but I worked a sight harder
Willy waving about who takes home what is ■■■■■■■■, as is the bile everyone has seen and heard which begins along the lines of “I wouldn’t get out of bed for that…”
To the bloke who has three kids, a mortgage to pay and a car on the drip £30k is probably borderline whether it’s enough. Equally to the driver who’s in his fifties, has paid his mortgage and runs a 10-year old Astra half that in his pocket every week (and half the hours worked for it) may well be plenty.
I earn closer to the latter than the former but have enough to live on and contribute a few shekels to one or two of the local hostelries each weekend. Life ain’t all about money despite what one or two on here seem to think and if you’re earning enough to live the life you want to who gives a ■■■■ what others think?
Take home with my Army pension is aroundabout £900.
Quality of life, is zero, I do the back shift, 1300hrs onwards, do regular12+, which means Saturday in bed till midday, weekends do not exist.
But there you go, do the hours and get the rewards.
Olog Hai:
Willy waving about who takes home what is ■■■■■■■■, as is the bile everyone has seen and heard which begins along the lines of “I wouldn’t get out of bed for that…”To the bloke who has three kids, a mortgage to pay and a car on the drip £30k is probably borderline whether it’s enough. Equally to the driver who’s in his fifties, has paid his mortgage and runs a 10-year old Astra half that in his pocket every week (and half the hours worked for it) may well be plenty.
I earn closer to the latter than the former but have enough to live on and contribute a few shekels to one or two of the local hostelries each weekend. Life ain’t all about money despite what one or two on here seem to think and if you’re earning enough to live the life you want to who gives a [zb] what others think?
Most of what you say i totally agree with, But the first line that you quoted i don’t get. This thread has nothing to do with willy waving, We all know haulage isn’t a standardised industry. There are day drivers, night drivers, uk trampers, european trampers, those that are away for a week, 2 weeks, and a month or more. Simply finding out what people take home for doing what is educational. Some may think they are hard done to, then read this and find out that they are not on a bad thing and best stop moaning about money to the boss. Others may realise that they are being screwed and best start moaning to the boss.
keebs26uk:
This thread has pretty much summed up what I already knew. Class 1 jobs out there that pay £500-£700 take home depending on what hours you wish to work.My hours are 8am-5pm for a builders merchant (Wolseley) at £8.50hr on class 2 hiab so I’m unlucky I can never get more more as the hours ain’t there its what I expect.
Where as if you read my other recent post I have been offered a class 1 job once I pass class 1 I get £500-£700 take home but the hours I hear are anything from 12-15 so its swings and round abouts when it comes to high pay. Question I ask myself is will they definitely give me the job and if they don’t what do I do. I am learning this game you need to know who to trust and who pays well and who will acturally take you on and treat you good.
I earn little but get treated great, if I leave for big pay I could earn the money but be treated crap its all swings and round abouts
Some people here don’t even earn what you earn and that’s doing Europe as well, don’t believe what you hear here class 1 gets you a few buttons more and longer hours we are working for less, anyone who says they are getting 650 to 750 a week is pulling the wool over your eyes or they are doing mad hours for it. And if they are they are earning below the min wage with the hours they work.
Winseer:
How many have a job that’s 36 hours a week in line with other industry?55-60 hours a week for the same pay as a 36 hour worker outside haulage gets is slavery, let alone 84+ hours a week. It’s the hours that are wrong in the haulage business, rather than the cash.
Think of all those lives that would be saved if we didn’t have to work stupid hours half asleep just to make ends meet…
+1
I do believe you can get £500-£600 take home a week but I’m guessing the hours are around 15 a day or the guys who earn this are claiming night out money as wage.
I take £300 a week on the class 2 hiab, is it possible to get closer to £400 on class 2 around Felixstowe and Ipswich? If it was I would just keep on class 2 work. If its not possible then class 1 may be the only choice for me
keebs26uk:
I do believe you can get £500-£600 take home a week but I’m guessing the hours are around 15 a day or the guys who earn this are claiming night out money as wage.
You’ll find most trampers just take night out money as income, after all it doesnt cost really anything more to live tramping as to live at home each night. The small amount extra that a few meals brought out each week cost(if you self cater for most), is compensated for by the lack off daily commuting expences.
keebs26uk:
I take £300 a week on the class 2 hiab, is it possible to get closer to £400 on class 2 around Felixstowe and Ipswich? If it was I would just keep on class 2 work. If its not possible then class 1 may be the only choice for me
If you were driving a rigid nationly you’d put in more hours, your earnings would rise but not your hourly rate. Maybe the way forward for you would be to get a job doing that if you can find it, then see how you get on and move to class one if you still fancy that way off life, though you’d find it alot easier to get class one work
keebs26uk:
I do believe you can get £500-£600 take home a week but I’m guessing the hours are around 15 a day or the guys who earn this are claiming night out money as wage.I take £300 a week on the class 2 hiab, is it possible to get closer to £400 on class 2 around Felixstowe and Ipswich? If it was I would just keep on class 2 work. If its not possible then class 1 may be the only choice for me
If I do 5 days I take home £485 if I do 4 nights out I then take home £565 if I do 6 days a I take home £550 if I do 5 nights out I then take home £650 but they do make you do near max hours for it.
Did 64 hours last week on nights… after they take my breaks 45min per night i took home £409.93. I dont care who knows what i earn… I do however know its crap…
Days only, mon-fri, artic, 60 hours
Earn enough
kiwitaff:
Did 64 hours last week on nights… after they take my breaks 45min per night i took home £409.93. I dont care who knows what i earn… I do however know its crap…
Forgot to add. If i do a saturday or sunday night my wage goes up by £0.87p an hour you gotta love it… and they wonder why i dont do weekends, Maybe i should go with an agency on a weekend
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All class 1 work I take it ?
Yes all class one on nights, Paid the same rates as the day drivers. no shift allowance, no meal allowance.