No more than 6hrs work without a break which must be 30 minutes.
It’s no surprise guys new to hours rules get confused when experienced guys still make the odd mistake.
Minimum of 15 minutes break every 6hrs.
If you are going to correct someone on their advise it might be a good idea if you give the correct information yourself.
Not sure where you get 15 minutes after every six hrs from.
The law says - between 6&9hrs you must take a break of, no less than 30 minutes which can be split into two 15s. Anything over 9 then a total of 45 mins must be taken.
From what you are saying, and I quote " 15 mins after every six hrs" would mean you only need 30 mins break in 12 hrs. Sorry but wrong and totally illegal.
No more than 6hrs work without a break which must be 30 minutes.
It’s no surprise guys new to hours rules get confused when experienced guys still make the odd mistake.
Minimum of 15 minutes break every 6hrs.
If you are going to correct someone on their advise it might be a good idea if you give the correct information yourself.
Not sure where you get 15 minutes after every six hrs from.
The law says - between 6&9hrs you must take a break of, no less than 30 minutes which can be split into two 15s. Anything over 9 then a total of 45 mins must be taken.
From what you are saying, and I quote " 15 mins after every six hrs" would mean you only need 30 mins break in 12 hrs. Sorry but wrong and totally illegal.
Where’s Tachograph when you need him, somebody give him a shout, he lurrves all this type of stuff… I mean there’s a ■■■■ apology to Conor riding on this …the shame!..or should I just delete my post before Conor sees it…
dcgpx:
I’m surprised that if you’ve passed your CPC that you’ve managed to ‘fail miserably’ on a standard agency test!
Ones I’ve done in past weren’t exactly rocket science ! And your statement as to how many hours rest in a 26 week consecutive period ■■? Means you’ve missed the point entirely ! No such thing
You say you’ve done your CPC modules ? If so you covered more than enough for an a agency test so how come so far off the mark ■■
Really? Here is how I read the question. How many hours of ■■■■■■■■■■ weekly rest in a 26 consecutive week period?
Now a simple bit of maths will tell you that if the weekly rest is 45 hours and you have to compensate for any reduced hours then 45 x 26 would give you an answer. Don’t think an agency has to be entirely straight when asking such questions and have been caught by a “consultant” wanting to put their interpretation on the answer given.
In this case I think it is testing the payback knowledge.
Read the questions carefully is always good advice.
No apology needed for Connor because he has stated a break of 30 mins after no more than 6 hrs. Wrong I’m afraid.
You have to have a 30 minute break between 6 - 9 hrs of working ie you could have a 15 after 5 hrs and then another 15 after 8 hrs. You would then have 30 mins total between 6&9hrs. You could then carry on until the 9th hour then take another 15 so you’ve now got 45mins after 9 hrs.
So when Connor say that you must have 30 after 6 it’s wrong.
Quite simple really not sure where the confusion comes from. Especially from the newbies who are supposed to be trained in this stuff
No more than 6hrs work without a break which must be 30 minutes.
It’s no surprise guys new to hours rules get confused when experienced guys still make the odd mistake.
Minimum of 15 minutes break every 6hrs.
If you are going to correct someone on their advise it might be a good idea if you give the correct information yourself.
Not sure where you get 15 minutes after every six hrs from.
The law says - between 6&9hrs you must take a break of, no less than 30 minutes which can be split into two 15s. Anything over 9 then a total of 45 mins must be taken.
From what you are saying, and I quote " 15 mins after every six hrs" would mean you only need 30 mins break in 12 hrs. Sorry but wrong and totally illegal.
Dude, you’re about to get egg on your face. You’re confusing 6hr rule with total amount of breaks per shift. Common mistake. There are loads of threads on here about this, including this one which is stickied in the WTD forum… viewtopic.php?f=7&t=99021
Coolrider:
No apology needed for Connor because he has stated a break of 30 mins after no more than 6 hrs. Wrong I’m afraid.
You have to have a 30 minute break between 6 - 9 hrs of working ie you could have a 15 after 5 hrs and then another 15 after 8 hrs. You would then have 30 mins total between 6&9hrs. You could then carry on until the 9th hour then take another 15 so you’ve now got 45mins after 9 hrs.
So when Connor say that you must have 30 after 6 it’s wrong.
Quite simple really not sure where the confusion comes from. Especially from the newbies who are supposed to be trained in this stuff
Pretty sure I didnt see any WTD stuff in my CPC mod 2. Plenty of EU driving laws but no WTD.
You’ve quoted something that is wrong - 15 mins after every 6 hrs!
Where does it say that in any regs or laws?
I’m talking about WTD that Connor was talking about and you corrected him on.
I’ve looked at your link and it agrees with what I’ve said!
Please explain
What I’ve quoted is not wrong but specific to the 6 hr rule. To satisfy the 6hr rule in the WTD you do only need 30 minutes in 12 hours. This doesn’t satisfy the total breaktime per shift requirements which you correctly stated so we take more. 15 minutes every 6 hrs is enough for one section of the WTD which is why I originally corrected Connor who stated 30 minutes every 6 hours which is incorrect.
The thread I linked to contains an email correspondence between Nick2008 and VOSA explaining this
You’ve quoted something that is wrong - 15 mins after every 6 hrs!
Where does it say that in any regs or laws?
I’m talking about WTD that Connor was talking about and you corrected him on.
I’ve looked at your link and it agrees with what I’ve said!
Please explain
What I’ve quoted is not wrong but specific to the 6 hr rule. To satisfy the 6hr rule in the WTD you do only need 30 minutes in 12 hours. This doesn’t satisfy the total breaktime per shift requirements which you correctly stated so we take more. 15 minutes every 6 hrs is enough for one section of the WTD which is why I originally corrected Connor who stated 30 minutes every 6 hours which is incorrect.
The thread I linked to contains an email correspondence between Nick2008 and VOSA explaining this
The e mail you have quoted from VOSA quite correctly has stated between 6 and 9 hrs you need a 30 minute break I’m sure we can fully agree on that one.
What you have stated is a 15 minute break after every 6 hrs so you say you only need 30 after 12.!
I think your causing confusion where there isn’t any.
The email you quote from VOSA , which I have read a couple of times appears to agree with what I’ve said but I can’t see where it agrees with you !
Look at it this way, if the law says you have to have 45 mins break after 9 hrs working time how can it also say, like you are trying to say, it’s also ok to only have 30 mins after 12! I’m sorry but I really think you’ve got this wrong and I certainly won’t be following your advise.
Also look at the link I’ve posted above and tell me where it says you can do 12hrs with only 30 mins break?
What you are trying to say isn’t wrong I’m guessing, but the way you are saying it is.
Its all to do with your total shift time, you do not need to take 30 minutes before 9 hours, if you intend on working for more than 9 hours. But you are correct you would need another break too.
Example.
Work 5 hours
Break 15 minutes
Work 5 hours
Break 30 minutes
Work 2 hours
Is perfectly legal. As long as you don’t drive more than 4.5 hours changing your break requirements…
riding on this 
