Our company major customer is Asda,we supply most of their poultry products and as a main supplier we are subject to an annual ethical audit,following our last audit we were informed that they were unhappy our drivers are working over 60 hrs a week and with immediate effect we cannot go over this.
We get alot of POA waiting to load and tip at our factory so we can easily do 65 hours a week and still be under 48 hrs working for the WTD,but our company will only take off our first break and not the POA which would keep us well under the 60 hr week…
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
I agree, 65 hours for a 5 day week is 13 hrs a day average, I’m sure there’ll be lots of waiting about on bays etc but you’re still at work and with commuting time you ain’t spending too much time at home are you.
Why the ■■■■ would Asda gives a toss about a 3rd party driver? Yeah maybe they might care about the chickens and their welfare so they don’t get stung by a panorama investigation but a lorry driver?
Sure your boss just isn’t on the fly trying to cut the o/t bill down?
washy jnr:
We get alot of POA waiting to load and tip at our factory so we can easily do 65 hours a week and still be under 48 hrs working for the WTD,but our company will only take off our first break and not the POA which would keep us well under the 60 hr week…
I don’t see that as a problem. Just use one break and leave the tacho on work when not driving, thereby complying with the company’s wishes. Then after x number of weeks of the reference period you can’t work . . .
Not many on here work less hours than me (37 a week average on my current 26 weeks), but as far as I’m concerned I’m away from home far to long. I’d happily see a 12 hours maximum in my job, poa, break or other work
Why the [zb] would Asda gives a toss about a 3rd party driver? Yeah maybe they might care about the chickens and their welfare so they don’t get stung by a panorama investigation but a lorry driver?
Sure your boss just isn’t on the fly trying to cut the o/t bill down?[/
All Asda are worried about is their name being dragged through the dirt if anything goes wrong
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
I have a great life outside work…3 holidays a year,sleep in my own bed every night and my mortgage paid off before my 45th birthday…It’s not only me it affects and some of the lads I work with actually need the money,that’s why they go to work
I drive for Asda & have never heard anything about this! I can point to 2 or 3 suppliers from whom we pick up produce & their own drivers are working similar hours to general haulage lads. It’s not unknown for us to work 60+ hours in a week ourselves, so can’t see why Asda would be interested in the fleet operations of a supplier.
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
Exactly!
I can never understand this either. Turkeys voting for Christmas
If drivers were paid a proper pay rate, but more importantly a proper pay structure ie Time and a half over 40 hours, the need for working ridiculously long working hours would be eradicated.
So…bring on the voices of the brainwashed using phrases like ‘Nature of the job’
That is only the way because it has been devised that way, and deteriorated over the years to the state it is today.
Ha ha - Asda have been in and seen the books .
"O look at all that overtime "
“If they stop paying for overtime we won’t have to give then an increase”
Now what can we call this ■■
I know - a Supermarket Ethical Audit .
Don’t be expecting a pay rise in April .
As usual you have 2 choices -
Stay or leave . Choose wisely
beefy4605:
Ha ha - Asda have been in and seen the books .
"O look at all that overtime "
“If they stop paying for overtime we won’t have to give then an increase”
Now what can we call this ■■
I know - a Supermarket Ethical Audit .
Don’t be expecting a pay rise in April .
As usual you have 2 choices -
Stay or leave . Choose wisely
Funny enough,we’ve just had a 2% payrise…and I think I will stay for the money…can’t find another job with a similar hourly rate
Perhaps it’s a knock on effect with what happened with Amazon, as mentioned some Asda drivers as well as some other supermarket drivers do long hours at times themselves so maybe Asda didn’t want bad press.
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
that’s allways been my annoyance,there are drivers on here that are prepared to work 15 hr days,i have allways said no driver should have to work long hours in order to make a decent wage,yet a lot of employers still make their employees do so,i know of at least one company in Swindon who’s drivers do 15 hrs three times a week,[no names mentioned]
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
that’s allways been my annoyance,there are drivers on here that are prepared to work 15 hr days,i have allways said no driver should have to work long hours in order to make a decent wage,yet a lot of employers still make their employees do so,i know of at least one company in Swindon who’s drivers do 15 hrs three times a week,[no names mentioned]
There are many drivers on this forum who readily work 3 x15 hours a week, and max out at every legal opportunity.
Just because it’s legal does not make it ethical.
If you dare mention to them it is unreasonable, and excessive,they come back at you as if you are in the wrong for not agreeing it is both reasonable and normal,… and that you are in the wrong job if you disagree with them.
Drivers are a strange breed and their own worst enemies.
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?
Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
that’s allways been my annoyance,there are drivers on here that are prepared to work 15 hr days,i have allways said no driver should have to work long hours in order to make a decent wage,yet a lot of employers still make their employees do so,i know of at least one company in Swindon who’s drivers do 15 hrs three times a week,[no names mentioned]
There are many drivers on this forum who readily work 3 x15 hours a week, and max out at every legal opportunity.
Just because it’s legal does not make it ethical.
If you dare mention to them it is unreasonable, and excessive,they come back at you as if you are in the wrong for not agreeing it is both reasonable and normal,… and that you are in the wrong job if you disagree with them.
Drivers are a strange breed and their own worst enemies.
I totally agree with the above comments,but I am a firm believer in each to their own…I personally can’t think of anything worse than sleeping in a truck 4 nights a week when I’m paying £000’s a month in rent or mortgage for a house…but that’s what attracts alot of people to driving…
robroy:
There are many BRAINDEAD drivers on this forum who readily work 3 x15 hours a week, and max out at every legal opportunity.
Just because it’s legal does not make it ethical.
If you dare mention to them it is unreasonable, and excessive,they come back at you as if you are in the wrong for not agreeing it is both reasonable and normal,… and that you are in the wrong job if you disagree with them.
Drivers are a strange breed and their own worst enemies.
You know what mate?. You are not far wrong.
I have known 3 that I can think of alone, who all their working lives worked all hours, and in the latter years, when the rules changed, maxed out all the time, minimum rests, and generally done the job on a work/sleep basis bordering on an endurance test rather than a job of work.
1 died within 6 months of his EARLY retirement, the other two lasted 1 yr to 14 months after retiring at 65.
None of these guys could be labelled as ill or particularly unfit.
All this ■■■■ takes it’s toll in later life…end of.
One of the reasons I saw the light, came to my senses, and at 55 volunteered to cut my hours down with longer weekends at home.
Not sure about “ethical” audits but the flour mill I used to work for had regular BRC audits and they could insist on all sorts of things to implement so putting a lid on long hours doesn’t surprise me.
I can do 13 hour days which seems excessive on local tipper work but like Washy says, this doesn’t involve sleeping in the cab and and is stress free so I’ll keep doing it.
