well you could go into Asda Dartford for 09.30 am booking and be tipped by 12 o clock and then wait till 14 .00 for notes. That’s not drivers or Subbie company fault just incompetence on their behalf and not caring one bit for the driver or the cost to company or knock on effect to next job. All while waiting in a little room with sod all facilities. This is throughout the RDC environment not just Asda . Tesco. Sainsbury Morrissions Bookers Iceland etc. So they actually cause the problem in the first place.
If you have a need to do 65 hrs in 5 days its means your either living above your means,living to work,live a boring life, or you need to get a better paid job.
Apart from that your Boss is telling you porkies so as to cut the o/t down
Tesco also do this audit. I got a phone call a couple of years ago from them, they were in our head office at the time going through the company procedures.
Conor:
washy jnr:
My question is,does anyone else on here work for a supermarket supplier who comes under the ethical audit but works more than 60 hrs a week? And if so,how?Words fail me. I cannot believe that in the 21st Century someone is wanting to work more hours than the Factories Act made illegal in the 19th Century.
Do you not have or want a life outside of work? We should be working to reduce hours truck drivers work, not find ways to make us even worse off than people were over 100 years ago.
Well put Conor it’s drivers and firms like this that made me leave driving now do a 35 hour week plus one sunday a month and according to this months payslip earn’t £26383 gross from April so will be around £40000 by the year end. Really do hope i never have to go back driving.
The silence from the usual ‘‘I’m on great money because I do 70+ hours every week me, if you don’t like it you’re in the wrong job’’ … crew is deafening on this thread. 
Says the man who does 60, in 4 and a half shifts.
65 hours a week at a "good wage " of £10 / hr = £650 a week and they want you to reduce to 60 hrs - £600 a week
you say you got a pay rise of 2% - thats £2 for every £100 you earn which at our good wage of £10/hr is £13 a week more in your pay packet .
So using this good wage of £10 an hour your only £37 a week worse off
What is your problem exactly ■■
Your being shafted by your employer or Asda - or more than likely both of them .
£10/ hour is a guestimate just to show how little your losing out on / crying about
beefy4605:
65 hours a week at a "good wage " of £10 / hr = £650 a week and they want you to reduce to 60 hrs - £600 a week
£10 an for all hours? Or 25 hours on £15/hour time & a half??
robroy:
Albert1:
Early grave springs too mind .You know what mate?. You are not far wrong.
I have known 3 that I can think of alone, who all their working lives worked all hours, and in the latter years, when the rules changed, maxed out all the time, minimum rests, and generally done the job on a work/sleep basis bordering on an endurance test rather than a job of work.
1 died within 6 months of his EARLY retirement, the other two lasted 1 yr to 14 months after retiring at 65.
None of these guys could be labelled as ill or particularly unfit.
All this [zb] takes it’s toll in later life…end of.
One of the reasons I saw the light, came to my senses, and at 55 volunteered to cut my hours down with longer weekends at home.
It’s terrible ,it happened to a guy i worked with as a welder,he would double shift ,always had a huge red face ,one day he went down for his 11 o’clock crap break ,he died on the bog ,he’d just worked 5x12 hour nights ,and Straight through to the saturday afternoon shift ,greed and stupidity killed him .sad sad people .work to live ,not live to work .
busteredwards:
beefy4605:
65 hours a week at a "good wage " of £10 / hr = £650 a week and they want you to reduce to 60 hrs - £600 a week£10 an for all hours? Or 25 hours on £15/hour time & a half??
Just for easy counting and making the whole thing simple to understand - no point complicating it all for those who have learning difficulties .
kavs44:
well you could go into Asda Dartford for 09.30 am booking and be tipped by 12 o clock and then wait till 14 .00 for notes. That’s not drivers or Subbie company fault just incompetence on their behalf and not caring one bit for the driver or the cost to company or knock on effect to next job. All while waiting in a little room with sod all facilities. This is throughout the RDC environment not just Asda . Tesco. Sainsbury Morrissions Bookers Iceland etc. So they actually cause the problem in the first place.
+1
beefy4605:
65 hours a week at a "good wage " of £10 / hr = £650 a week and they want you to reduce to 60 hrs - £600 a week
you say you got a pay rise of 2% - thats £2 for every £100 you earn which at our good wage of £10/hr is £13 a week more in your pay packet .
So using this good wage of £10 an hour your only £37 a week worse off
What is your problem exactly ■■
Your being shafted by your employer or Asda - or more than likely both of them .
£10/ hour is a guestimate just to show how little your losing out on / crying about
Our hourly rate is £14.77 for all hours worked
The Ethical Audit is quite common within Supermarkets more so in particular with Clothing Manufacturers/Suppliers…so the factory in Bangladesh are up to a high standard, they are not using child labour etc.
Never for once thought that they would do this for their supplier driver hours…I mean the supermarkets will certainly squeeze every penny out for the chickens that you supply or any other commodity.
One thing we don’t see how ruthless this happens…with every little helps can translate to every screw turned…and always lower prices simply for colleagues is always cutting costs…
commonrail2:
Says the man who does 60, in 4 and a half shifts.
Yeh cheers for that mate.
Tbf the 60 comes about if I do a long shift Sat, like last week for eg, when I broke down, (brand new truck 
) so not a normal week.
Usually it involves just running back in (slowly 
) Sat am, which comes to max approx 55, and that is if I can be arsed to wash the truck,…and then there are breaks in there.
Yeh ok, admittedly 55 to 60 is still.a lot by some standards, I would love to do less, but I volunteered for it in favour of doing 70+, 5 nts/out, and short weekends at home, where as now I am normally home Sat lunchtime, and start back in Tues late am…and I do the same run which I have got sussed.
Not TOO bad for UK tramping, and better to what I’ve been used to…but thanks for picking me up on it anyway.
Your ethical may not be my ethical, just as my ethical may not be yours… (mine involves buckets, and a swift decline in population numbers. Ready for that?)
Supermarkets do not care about people. Full stop. They care about profits. They will only pretend to care about anything g other than profits if that anything threatened to diminish those profits. Asda do not care about drivers. They care about the bad press they might get if drivers hours are the next Sports Direct scandal.
Rob. Stop knocking everybody who isn’t like you. Some people like driving trucks. Don’t have a family. And don’t aspire to be a militant union shop steward with a Scottish accent.
As for me. I work 13+ hour days most days now. My company want me to max my hours. Terrible. I’m also going back to work tomorrow after a fortnight off, having only had to book 4 das holiday. I only work 6months a year anyway. And before you start, I’m salaried. I get paid for working 3 days a week half the time. ( 4 days the other half).
But, I must admit, it is not all roses. I don’t get to pretend the truck I drive is mine anymore. I can’t put frilly curtains up. I don’t have a fridge build in. I may have to drive a dirty truck some days…
the nodding donkey:
Rob. Stop knocking everybody who isn’t like you. Some people like driving trucks. Don’t have a family. And don’t aspire to be a militant union shop steward with a Scottish accent. …
1.Firstly bud I’ll knock who the ■■■■ I like thanks.
To be fair I was not ‘knocking’ anybody, but giving my opinion/point of view on a discussion forum…which I thought was the reason for said forum. 
It is up to you and anybody else how they interpret it, but tbf I aint really fussed.
- I used to love driving trucks, …I still quite like it tbh.
It just aint the be all and end all of my life, and do not want to spend most of my remaining life doing so…unlike the past regrettably.
A bit of a reformed character in a sense.
3.No interest in becoming any type of shop steward mate, drivers have no balls to stick together, so what would be the point…ok fair enough that WAS a knock. 
4.Took your points on board bud…but pleeaase do not accuse me of being Scottish.
I normally run about 50 hours a week with some overtime but I work nights so it feels longer than it actually is.
robroy:
the nodding donkey:
Rob. Stop knocking everybody who isn’t like you. Some people like driving trucks. Don’t have a family. And don’t aspire to be a militant union shop steward with a Scottish accent. …
To be fair I was not ‘knocking’ anybody, but giving my opinion/point of view on a discussion forum…which I thought was the reason for said forum.
It is up to you and anybody else how they interpret it, but tbf I aint really fussed.
- I used to love driving trucks, …I still quite like it tbh.
It just aint the be all and end all of my life, and do not want to spend most of my remaining life doing so…unlike the past regrettably.
A bit of a reformed character in a sense.3.No interest in becoming any type of shop steward mate, drivers have no balls to stick together, so what would be the point…ok fair enough that WAS a knock.
4.Took your points on board bud…but pleeaase do not accuse me of being Scottish.
Fair points. I guess we all change our perspective over time, depending on our experience and situation. I don’t need the weekend off as such, so 4on-4off suits me down to the ground, but it wouldn’t suit somebody with commitments during the weekend. I love tramping, but I’m glad that I’m not working Monday silly o’clock till Friday stupid o’clock (or Saturday midday…) anymore.
And my sincerest apologies, I didn’t know you are a Welsh shop steward.
the nodding donkey:
And my sincerest apologies, I didn’t know you are a Welsh shop steward.
Think I preferred the Scottish tbh.
ASDA have been massively into their Audits for years, they do two types. Ethical audits are all based around working conditions and following of “Best Practice” and have been brought in more heavily as Wal*Mart have wanted to Americanise everything.
Technical audits are more based around the details on the equipment used to make and deliver their goods and are just as stringent.
Believe me that ASDA will crack down on any supplier that doesn’t meet the rule of the Ethical audits and any “cooking” of the books to bring things into line is very dimly thought of. They’ll do random unannounced inspections as well as scheduled inspections and “monitoring” all along the supply chain. If they want you to work 50hrs a week or less then your employer had better be able to prove that you do that and not a second more.
Anyone who says ASDA don’t care about the people is wrong- but only because the books tell them to, it’s more correct that they don’t care about HOW it’s delivered.
If it means that your company has to buy another 5 units and 15 trailers to achieve what they need to, and employ another 10 drivers too, then that’s what ASDA will want to see. If you can’t do that or can’t keep it in the 50hrs without doing it then they’ll go to someone who claims they can, until proven wrong and then they’ll move on.
It’s a firm case of covering their backsides while keeping contractors on their toes about being dropped without notice if they step outside the lines.
There are certain goods that they will be more hot on this for, as BoltonBoy quite rightly says Clothing is the biggest topic as it started with the Far Eastern factories but it’s spreading to other areas too and is probably going to become a lot bigger in the years to come.
It’s unfortunate but there’s no way it’s going to lead to less hours for the same money for drivers, in the same way it hasn’t meant that for factory workers, it’ll mean more people will have to be taken on and less money spent on vehicles and infrastructure to pay for those extra drivers and trucks.