Smoggie89:
Also forgot to add they are under caution aswell
Interview under caution is basically where you (not you personally but them) hang yourself with what you say. Cherry picking what you answer is not an option as if you do not answer an awkward question then a negative inference can be drawn, so best not to answer any !! Even your name. Better still, decline the interview and let them charge if they’re going to. Then they’ll know exactly what they’re up against. One things for sure, by opening their mouths now they won’t make anything easier for themselves, only for any potential prosecution to go ahead. And i’ll tell you what won’t happen when/if they go for interview…“oh, right we’ve listened to everything you’ve had to say, we understand. Yeah no prob, there will be no charges.”
Freight Dog:
I know a certain spud haulier near where my Sister lives in East Anglia is going through the mill under various allegations.
Would they be in the Lincolnshire part of the Fens, otherwise there’s more than one spud haulier being given the fine tooth combe treatment in East Anglia
hkloss1:
Can VOSA discover it at all? and if so, how?
Yep, they can ask you to account for the missing mileage, and you’ll help them out and tell them you drove with no card
I agree with Mike on this Fess up, if asked.
Actually next time you’ve got your card in, go to print menu, select the date this ■■■■ up happened, and do a print out, write on it what happened and keep it to hand, that was genuine mistake(well sounds like it)so don’t try and BS around it if you get asked. If you get asked why you didn’t do a print out on the day, just say you took some advice
A few weeks ago after driving for 4 hrs I was told to go to the nearest dealer and have my lorry repaired.
I took a 45 mins break before getting there, got there, and was told to pull out my card before I hand the keys over, so I did.
After a couple of hours the lorry was repaired , keys handed back to me and off I went.
While being on the road, I realized I forgot to insert my digicard in, but there was no where to stop immediately, so had to drive for another 1 mile, stopped and inserted the card in.
so, I drove for about 3 miles without my card inserted.
Can VOSA discover it at all? and if so, how?
How long before the mistake is being erased from the records?
Is this a serious offence, and what can VOSA do to me for this?
Yes, a VU download will show any driving without a card.
Events will show stuff like card inserted whilst driving, so blaming the garage will fall foul.
Be honest, as we ( Police and DVSA) can see how long you were driving before and after the event
How long before the mistake is being erased from the records?
Is this a serious offence, and what can VOSA do to me for this?
dependant on the amount of driving you, mode changes etc several months before the data on your card is overwritten. In realistic terms, after 28 days I won’t worry about it.
If it was an honest mistake and you have the print out made that day with an explanation on it, it will probably be accepted as such, However that is my view and another Police/DVSA pfficeray take a different view.
How long before the mistake is being erased from the records?
Is this a serious offence, and what can VOSA do to me for this?
Couldn’t tell you mate, but I would assume that when the TM/Fleet Manager downloads the VU approx. every 6 weeks, it will then go onto the fleet computer log, or however the data is stored, I believe they will have to keep that for a year at least.
I’ve recently replaced my digi card, but my old digi card was showing a fault that occurred on a truck I stopped driving in 2012. so they can hold a lot off data before they over write themselves, I would think the VU would be similar.
hkloss1:
"Actually next time you’ve got your card in, go to print menu, select the date this ■■■■ up happened, and do a print out, write on it "
Did it straight away, and have the print out with me.
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Well you did the best thing, I reckon if you’ve got a good record regards driving hours, then you’d probably be ok
dependant on the amount of driving you, mode changes etc several months before the data on your card is overwritten. .
How about 2 and a half years and I do lots off driving mode changes, and the truck was at my previous employer
The 5 (I think) most recent fault events are always retained on the card, and will show on any printout even though the driving/activity data for the same period may have long since been overwritten - So your current card could show events such as power interruptions, card faults etc that occurred as much as five years ago. To see how old the activity data on your own card is, just press the buttons for a 24hr printout and see how far back you can wind the date display.
It won’t be on his card though, it’s on the unit, as his card wasn’t in, so nothing can point directly to him unless he admits it. He has the print out, so that’s all he needs.
dependant on the amount of driving you, mode changes etc several months before the data on your card is overwritten. .
How about 2 and a half years and I do lots off driving mode changes, and the truck was at my previous employer
The 5 (I think) most recent fault events are always retained on the card, and will show on any printout even though the driving/activity data for the same period may have long since been overwritten - So your current card could show events such as power interruptions, card faults etc that occurred as much as five years ago. To see how old the activity data on your own card is, just press the buttons for a 24hr printout and see how far back you can wind the date display.
It would clever to go back 5 yrs, it didn’t go live til October this year. but thanks for that info on the fault events
109LWB:
It won’t be on his card though, it’s on the unit, as his card wasn’t in, so nothing can point directly to him unless he admits it. He has the print out, so that’s all he needs.
Apart from his card having been used directly either side off the event, which proves nothing, but points in a general direction. I think honesty is the best policy for this time
109LWB:
It won’t be on his card though, it’s on the unit, as his card wasn’t in, so nothing can point directly to him unless he admits it. He has the print out, so that’s all he needs.
Apart from his card having been used directly either side off the event, which proves nothing, but points in a general direction. I think honesty is the best policy for this time
But it wasn’t, not they way I read it. He drove with the card in, pulled card when he arrived at dealership for repair and left it for a few hours. Then drove it from dealership, stopped a few miles away and Inserted card. It could quite easily have been a Mechanic driving it at the dealership and the poster didn’t start driving until his card was inserted picking it up again. They could never prove otherwise, except for these posts and the fact the poster admitted it. Even so, it’s hardly crime of the century, just tell them what happened and deal with the consequences, which will likely be nothing, maybe a verbal warning to be more careful.
in East Anglia 
and I do lots off driving mode changes, and the truck was at my previous employer