Subsistence/nightout money

On these forums there is always the old question, should I buy my own lorry?

Well I am seriously thinking about it, not just 1 but around 10.

Drivers pay for any damage from their wages.
They buy digital rolls for the tachograph
They buy download tools and software
They pay for their own driving licence
Some will work for nothing
Some even pay me a little towards my insurance
They pay for their own compulsory training
They pay to park my lorries.
They polish my lorry in their own time
They buy spare parts and accessories for my lorry

As soon as I work out how to charge them for fuel, I shall be ringing Volvo to place an order :stuck_out_tongue:

sane-scotty:
no, the £25 is to cover everything, so if you want to spend the night in a layby then you`re £25 up, otherwise, any parking fees come out of your £25 etc…

In 20 years in haulage I’ve never had that. I’ve always got parking in addition, even when I drove for Reed Boardall who everyone says doesn’t pay for parking.

Wheel Nut:
On these forums there is always the old question, should I buy my own lorry?

Well I am seriously thinking about it, not just 1 but around 10.

Drivers pay for any damage from their wages.
They buy digital rolls for the tachograph
They buy download tools and software
They pay for their own driving licence
Some will work for nothing
Some even pay me a little towards my insurance
They pay for their own compulsory training
They pay to park my lorries.
They polish my lorry in their own time
They buy spare parts and accessories for my lorry

As soon as I work out how to charge them for fuel, I shall be ringing Volvo to place an order :stuck_out_tongue:

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Wheel Nut:
On these forums there is always the old question, should I buy my own lorry?

Well I am seriously thinking about it, not just 1 but around 10.

Drivers pay for any damage from their wages.
They buy digital rolls for the tachograph
They buy download tools and software
They pay for their own driving licence
Some will work for nothing
Some even pay me a little towards my insurance
They pay for their own compulsory training
They pay to park my lorries.
They polish my lorry in their own time
They buy spare parts and accessories for my lorry

As soon as I work out how to charge them for fuel, I shall be ringing Volvo to place an order :stuck_out_tongue:

All you have to do toget them to put their own fuel in is give them a fuel bonus with a target they can’t reach and they’ll put fuel in with their own money just to reach target for their bonus’ thats it job sorted…

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We get £28 night out money no questions asked plus all parking fees paid as long as we have a receipt and it is paid the following week

sane-scotty:
no, the £25 is to cover everything, so if you want to spend the night in a layby then you`re £25 up, otherwise, any parking fees come out of your £25 etc…mind you, this is the same company that, when I got my £220 SATNAV knicked from my cab, whilst unloading at a customers car park, refuse to pay me to replace it, so I had to buy a new one out of my own money.

regards ss

they gave you the means to secure your satnav from being stolen, you didn’t utilise them, why would they pay?

th.OP wrote

Our company insist on receipts for everything which is a paine

do you mean that if you don’t have receipts for meals etc, that you don’t get any night out money?
eg, sleep in a lay by and buy meals from a butty van = no receipts = no N.O. money.

del949:
th.OP wrote

Our company insist on receipts for everything which is a paine

do you mean that if you don’t have receipts for meals etc, that you don’t get any night out money?
eg, sleep in a lay by and buy meals from a butty van = no receipts = no N.O. money.

Yeah, kinda lost me a bit there too.

Someone put the figure above, but a company can pay you around £27 night out money without a receipt - based on £25 + £2 meal allowance.

All parking and tolls should be repaid with a receipt, they can claim it back, depends on the company though, I know some won’t pay parking, I know some put a limit on it and if you go over that, you’d be paying - maybe £15 or whatever which would get you in most truck stops but not in services.

Personally, I’ve normally been paid around the £23 mark + all parking and tolls paid - either on account or in my wages a week later.

Don’t think I’d do nights out if parking wasn’t paid, it’s 1 thing to get stuck out of hours in a layby or on an industrial estate, but I prefer to park in a truck stop and have a nice meal and shower before bed and a toilet that’s accessible - NOT the floor!!

can’t be certain but I don’t think the law says that a boss HAS to pay you any subsistence.
I remember going for an interview and was told that the company did not pay nights out but would cover any costs incurred, i.e. meals, hotels etc with receipts,( in fairness they were paying every hour away from base).
So, I guess if I was the OP I would be sleeping and eating in the most comfortable places within reason, however if he is wanting to make up his wages with expenses looks like a bit of a no goer.
Don’t understand why a boss would want to do this though, can’t see whats in it for him!

sane-scotty:
no, the £25 is to cover everything, so if you want to spend the night in a layby then you`re £25 up, otherwise, any parking fees come out of your £25 etc…mind you, this is the same company that, when I got my £220 SATNAV knicked from my cab, whilst unloading at a customers car park, refuse to pay me to replace it, so I had to buy a new one out of my own money.

regards ss

So basically if you pay £20 to park somewhere your only getting £5 to sleep in your truck for the night . I.d be having words

THE ORIGINAL POSTER DOES NOT GET HIS PARKING PAID :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation: :exclamation:

his gaffer has told him basically if you want to pay for parking you can pay it out of your night out money but i wont be rembursing you for it.

there are some firms that pay parking and some dont simple as :bulb: :bulb: :bulb: if you dont get your parking paid then if you want to park in the services or lorry park you are going to have to stump it up yourself.

you can argue the toss all you like but i know a lot of firms that dont pay parking.

do you have some more knowledge of the OP other than what he posted?
becuase it seems to me that he doesn’t even get his meals reimbursed without receipts.
The way I understand his post is that as long as he has receipts his boss is prepared to pay but won’t simply give a fixed amount per night.

and as you say there are lots of firms that won’t pay for parking (or so I am told), claiming that the £25 approx per night covers it if you want to use services etc.

del949:
do you have some more knowledge of the OP other than what he posted?
becuase it seems to me that he doesn’t even get his meals reimbursed without receipts.
The way I understand his post is that as long as he has receipts his boss is prepared to pay but won’t simply give a fixed amount per night.

and as you say there are lots of firms that won’t pay for parking (or so I am told), claiming that the £25 approx per night covers it if you want to use services etc.

ask shuttlespanker he dosent pay parking.

caught me out there del, i was on about sane-scotty :blush:

jessicas dad:

del949:
do you have some more knowledge of the OP other than what he posted?
becuase it seems to me that he doesn’t even get his meals reimbursed without receipts.
The way I understand his post is that as long as he has receipts his boss is prepared to pay but won’t simply give a fixed amount per night.

and as you say there are lots of firms that won’t pay for parking (or so I am told), claiming that the £25 approx per night covers it if you want to use services etc.

ask shuttlespanker he dosent pay parking.

don’t i?

oh sorry, i wasn’t aware of that :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush:

Never paid when I was there.

it depends on the circumstances, if you have a loaded trailer which required secure parking, i pay upon production of the relevant receipt

you can ask Lug84 or Tonka236

you obviously just didn’t listen when you were told :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It should be as simple as this IMHO

Driver pays for a parking, this is a business expense which he reclaims from his boss.
Boss recharges parking cost to customer or the job has been priced to include parking.
Customer ultimately pays for the parking.

The company that i used to do euro work for, used to pay £25 for a night out, they now pay £30 plus £10 meal allowance each day too, plus some bonus for something or other, this is paid on a monthly basis along with the basic rate salary so although is not taxed it does show on your wage packet, parking it used to be that they would only pay if you where loaded with something of high value , but £2.00 per day for a hot meal,lol not a chance even your average truck stop is charging £5+ for a decent meal with a hot drink, what plannet did the HMRC fall off?

tommy t:
but £2.00 per day for a hot meal,lol not a chance even your average truck stop is charging £5+ for a decent meal with a hot drink, what plannet did the HMRC fall off?

To be reasonably fair they are giving you a tax free evening meal and breakfast if you have a night out, if not, you can pack up at home for £2

The problem being is that drivers count the subsistence as wages. And they pay to park the bosses lorry out of there own money. The parking vouchers are a bloody scam.

If you only did day work, you would then have to pay for your own food at home, pack up, breakfast and evening meals.