You may be interested in the “discussion” I had with what I can only gather was an army corpral at Birchanger Green today. I finish my break before going down to Willis and Gambia at the back of Stanstead airport.
Try to pull the wagon & drag out of one of the holes at the front of the parking area (facing the services). Trouble is, these bods had dropped 5 wagon and drags of indeterminate age across the top and [zb]'d off, I couldn’t get out, until I leant on my air horns in a fit of pique . One of the drivers (privates?) comes back, looks ashen faced, because some other drivers have taken pity and are leaning on theirs as well by now and glowering in her general direction. Hi vis coated security guard (in very warm weather ) scurries off in the direction of the services, and has obviosley got some sense, because I didn’t see him come back. Some mustachioed [zb] comes speedily my way dressed in army gear (I’ve obviousley got that kind of face) and utters these immortal words: “what’s up?” I do a double take and ask him “what the [zb] do you think is up [zb] and do you make the descions round here?” “Yes” comes the strangled reply.
To cut a long story short, they eventually shifted after he yawped at them (politley requested) that they go round the block so these “induviduals” could get out and away (by then I’d lost it and gone off on one :lol:). More like out of this [zb]'s hair . Words were muttered in “the ranks” about “not messing with us because we’re trained killers.” HaH. This speedily stopped when I turned round and said “I hope your armour plated you [zb], because your dealing with and irate lorry driver. Now would you mind awfully moving?”
I mean, who makes the descion where and how they park up. Are they governed y drivers hours? If it takes what looked like about 10 of them to totally [zb] up the services, then the mind just boggles . I’d love any ex army drivers to enlighten me as to the chain of command and if you have to have less than one braincell to be promoted to corpral. I thought of Neil at the time (sorry Neil). I bet he would/has/is done/doing a much better job. Rant over .
Liberace:
This speedily stopped when I turned round and said “I hope your armour plated you [zb], because your dealing with and irate lorry driver. Now would you mind awfully moving?”
Liberace:
This speedily stopped when I turned round and said “I hope your armour plated you [zb], because your dealing with and irate lorry driver. Now would you mind awfully moving?”
What you’ve got to bear in mind Lib is that the army draws it’s manpower from society, and when it’s finished with them it throws them back. This corporal will probably leave the army one day and settle into his natural position in civvy street - a TM or planner
I met allsorts when I was in, some were worth it and some were absolutely useless so it’s allways difficult to generalise - same as civvy street really.
Trained killers…could murder a curry maybe, if they were trained killers they’d be driving around in tanks or APC’s - next time offer them a yorkie and tell them to get back in their box
Jules
Right tin hat on, flak jacket done up, regulation slit trench dug…now where did I leave me tank
Sorry to hear about your ,problem with a certain army pleb,if you wish totake this further,ie make a complaint, write yourletter stateing the date ,time and location,also the make up of the convoy,did youperhaps see if the vehicles
had a number written on the side if so and you have this number it willmake it a little easyer.but,any way send a copy of your letter to the police for the area where you meeet these fine upstanding members of the armened forces,and aletter to
CheifExecutive
Brigadier C.M. Stein CBE
Defence & Trandport Movements Agencey
Building 400
Monnton Road
Andover Hampshire SP118HJ
E-Mail address is GWENdolen.Keogan679@MOD:UK
HOPE THIS WLL HELP:also this address will do for any one else who has a complaint about army vehicles and movements, as this office controls
the tasking of all forces movements,
brit pete:
Sorry to hear about your ,problem with a certain army pleb,if you wish totake this further,ie make a complaint, write yourletter stateing the date ,time and location,also the make up of the convoy,did youperhaps see if the vehicles
had a number written on the side if so and you have this number it willmake it a little easyer.but,any way send a copy of your letter to the police for the area where you meeet these fine upstanding members of the armened forces,and aletter to
CheifExecutive
Brigadier C.M. Stein CBE
Defence & Trandport Movements Agencey
Building 400
Monnton Road
Andover Hampshire SP118HJ
E-Mail address is GWENdolen.Keogan679@MOD:UK
HOPE THIS WLL HELP:also this address will do for any one else who has a complaint about army vehicles and movements, as this office controls
the tasking of all forces movements,
I dont think theres any need for that is there He told them to move they moved job done end of Theres to many people in this world trying to drop each other in the [zb]
I’ve had nothing but bother with army convoys of various nationalities in Germany, I have had to overtake at least six of them this week, takes for ever on a two lane motorway when they are all nose to tail in lane 1 for about 3 kilometres, and three times I pulled into service areas for a break and the whole place had been taken over by them. No one else could get a look in as they caused chaos, including parking a couple of trucks lengthways across 5 or 6 normal parking bays.
I think there must be big manoeuvres or an exercise on somewhere in the south of Germany as they were all headed there. Maybe they are going to pretend to invade Switzerland because after all their army needs the practice, they haven’t had to get those wee knives out in anger for about 500 years.
This speedily stopped when I turned round and said “I hope your armour plated you [zb], because your dealing with and irate lorry driver. Now would you mind awfully moving?”
I bet they were ■■■■■■■■ themselves when you said that!!!
Liberace:
I mean, who makes the descion where and how they park up. Are they governed y drivers hours?
N o they’re not governed by drivers hours.
As to parking up, its WHAT makes the decision, not WHO. Speaking from FIRST HAND experience being ex-Army, doing my Class 2 at the Army School of Mechanical transport Leconfield as well as working there, Army drivers quite simply cannot reverse to save their lives. They park like that because, believe me, they couldn’t live down the embarassment of being watched trying to reverse. In addition to that, if they did then you’d be taking a daily rest whilst they tried to do it.
Boozedupboy:
This speedily stopped when I turned round and said “I hope your armour plated you [zb], because your dealing with and irate lorry driver. Now would you mind awfully moving?”
I bet they were [zb] themselves when you said that!!!
Liberace:
I mean, who makes the descion where and how they park up. Are they governed y drivers hours?
N o they’re not governed by drivers hours.
As to parking up, its WHAT makes the decision, not WHO. Speaking from FIRST HAND experience being ex-Army, doing my Class 2 at the Army School of Mechanical transport Leconfield as well as working there, Army drivers quite simply cannot reverse to save their lives. They park like that because, believe me, they couldn’t live down the embarassment of being watched trying to reverse. In addition to that, if they did then you’d be taking a daily rest whilst they tried to do it.
in my experiance the worst ones are the young spotty faced herbert in his landrover and trailer which i had the misfortune of catching up on the m40 a while ago id overtake them then theyd overtake me this went on for 10 mile until i got fed up and pulled into oxford services and had a cuppa does the army driving test consist of a run up and down the parade yard and thats it
CARL; I AM VERY SORRY BUT THAT IS NOT CORRECT, the learner driver
willbe taught to the standard,which is the same as that in GB;ALSO
where else can the persons concerned get experience of driveing on roads different to the GB,yes okay they do not drive the distance which
we all achieve EVERY YEAR; but some of these drivers will when they have
left the services be perhaps working with you, and then you will see how
good or bad they may be at learning a new approach to driveing, and maybe you will see that you first thoughts were not quite correct.
It can work the other way round - sometimes the plonkers who infiltrate our forces come out and become drivers…
I was taking a navy reg’d rigid wagon (pretty long one for a class 2) from portsmouth up to brum last summer on 'plates. parked up proper in a space and everything, plates off incase they get nicked while I go for a widdle and lunch.
then I hears a horn being leaned on, so me and 4 or 5 other drivers all want to see what’s going on so out we come to make sure its not our wagons about to get nudged by someone stuck halfway through an unretrievable manouver - and boyo in his nice big cab with poorly painted-over weetabix trailer yelps out in an almost comical stereo-type s’arnt major’s voice, with accompanying yard-brush moustache - “which 'orrible web-foot scrote left this 'eap of ■■■■■ in a proper truck’s space? get it shifted before I push it out”.
“Excuse me?” I said, walking up to the back of it so he’s going through me to do it (yes, I’d have legged it out of the way if he’d have gone thru with it!).
“You ‘eard me - and bleedin’ typical the fish-botherers would have a lard-arse like you driving for 'em. ■■■■■■■ shambles. shift it now!”
“Come down here and see if you’re still has hard as you used to be when you were the god of the parade-ground matey - or find another spot to park in. and shave yer tache off, makes you look like you’re touting for sailors not arguing with them”.
went a nice shade of beetroot and drove straight to the fuel pumps instead
Liberace:
It also springs to mind, that they wern’t hassled/clamped/fined etc for parking out of the bays. Hmmmm.
yeah ok lib. There used to be a massive exercise in Germany every year roundabout now.( the name escapes me).It involved forces from all over UK,Belguim,France,Holland and Germany.This is probably why the amount of vehicle movement Neil.( But still no excuse for bad parking).As for brit pete’s idea,well a wee bit ott i think,as said the vehicle’s where moved and lib got out.( end of problem)
The exersize used tobe called ““REFORGER”” and the amount of millarty
road traffic is then about treble what it normally is, you will also find more
and more troop movements in the new EU countrys as the forces are useing the training areas here more due to costs and the green partys policy in germany,
KITKAT. yes maybe a little over the top but ,the convoy commannder has laid down rules to follow and one of these is poleiteness to other users of the road and the services,where they park,
. One of the drivers (privates?) comes back, looks ashen faced, because some other drivers have taken pity and are leaning on theirs as well by now and glowering in her general direction. Hi vis coated security guard (in very warm weather 
) scurries off in the direction of the services, and has obviosley got some sense, because I didn’t see him come back. Some mustachioed [zb] comes speedily my way dressed in army gear (I’ve obviousley got that kind of face) and utters these immortal words: “what’s up?” I do a double take and ask him “what the [zb] do you think is up [zb] and do you make the descions round here?” “Yes” comes the strangled reply.
. Words were muttered in “the ranks” about “not messing with us because we’re trained killers.” HaH. This speedily stopped when I turned round and said “I hope your armour plated you [zb], because your dealing with and irate lorry driver. Now would you mind awfully moving?”
