robroy:
5 year driving ban would sort it, with another HGV test after it.
It would temporarily get a lot of the f/whit crew away from us for a while at least.
I don’t know about you lot, but I even read bridge heights when driving my car. , it just comes naturally.
I’d go further Rob and take the license off then altogether, there’s absolutely no excuse!!!
One of ours hit one last week in Reading, luckily minimal damage to both truck and bridge, but lost the company a shift for 3 trucks and 6 men, plus extra work for all involved in it due to the reporting we had to do, and not good when a co that works on the railway hits a bridge with on of their trucks Also got him self drugs and alcohol checked (no work for a week while the final results come back) as they deemed it to be a railway incident.
This one shows that some people are beyond training though. He’s in the army and is one of our part time operators.I was following in my van, he went past 2 normal signs and a flashing over height one, pulled up at the lights and I thought he was going to back into a side road so got out to guide him in, but before I could he set off under the bridge. Luckily, the main part of the truck was low enough, it was just part of the plant that got caught and was ripped off on the concrete bridge. He had a brain fade and was following google maps. The other 2 trucks for the job had truck sat navs and got to the job avoiding the bridge (Access just other side of bridge)
Our planner asked my opinion, and I told him he just had a blonde moment. Not heard the outcome from the boss, but he’ll be lucky to keep working for us as the boss went mental when he was told, be a pity as he’s a good operator and helpful.
I may be misunderstanding your role here, but if you were escorting him, shouldn’t you have warned him about the obstruction?
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Keyword, Army.
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So because he is ex Army, by the tone of your post it must mean that he is a crap driver. I am one if countless thousands of ex Army guys now driving for a living and I haven’t hit any bridges. IMO one word sus you up…■■■■!
mike68:
I suspect the majority of cases of bridge strikes involve the use of sat nav, looking at the screen and missing the signs.
That seems to be the assumption of many. Do you know of any evidence to support that view? Im not saying its wrong, just wondering why you think that. bridgestrike.files.wordpress.co … istics.pdf orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_fil … 015-16.pdf
There have been more SatNavs in use over the last ten years, but no real increase in bridge strikes, so probably no link there? Or am I missing something? An idiot following a SatNav is no different from an idiot with a paper map or following written or verbal directions.
Keyword, Army.
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So because he is ex Army, by the tone of your post it must mean that he is a crisp driver. I am one if countless thousands of ex Army guys now driving for a living and I haven’t hit any bridges. IMO one word sus you up…■■■■!
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A sweeping statement i’ll admit, I look at some of my colleagues (ex army) and my blood runs cold at the thought they were once trusted with a loaded firearm.
No middle ground with Ex army either good or inept clowns.
robroy:
5 year driving ban would sort it, with another HGV test after it.
It would temporarily get a lot of the f/whit crew away from us for a while at least.
I don’t know about you lot, but I even read bridge heights when driving my car. , it just comes naturally.
I’d go further Rob and take the license off then altogether, there’s absolutely no excuse!!!
One of ours hit one last week in Reading, luckily minimal damage to both truck and bridge, but lost the company a shift for 3 trucks and 6 men, plus extra work for all involved in it due to the reporting we had to do, and not good when a co that works on the railway hits a bridge with on of their trucks Also got him self drugs and alcohol checked (no work for a week while the final results come back) as they deemed it to be a railway incident.
This one shows that some people are beyond training though. He’s in the army and is one of our part time operators.I was following in my van, he went past 2 normal signs and a flashing over height one, pulled up at the lights and I thought he was going to back into a side road so got out to guide him in, but before I could he set off under the bridge. Luckily, the main part of the truck was low enough, it was just part of the plant that got caught and was ripped off on the concrete bridge. He had a brain fade and was following google maps. The other 2 trucks for the job had truck sat navs and got to the job avoiding the bridge (Access just other side of bridge)
Our planner asked my opinion, and I told him he just had a blonde moment. Not heard the outcome from the boss, but he’ll be lucky to keep working for us as the boss went mental when he was told, be a pity as he’s a good operator and helpful.
I may be misunderstanding your role here, but if you were escorting him, shouldn’t you have warned him about the obstruction?
My role was that I has heading to the same job as him as I was one of the linesmen that was going to be installing the wire he was to be taking on track for us, also I was to be loading said wire onto his machine with a forklift at the site. The machine was 12’2" and he tried to get it under a 10’ bridge. I wasn’t involved in escorting him or in giving him any instruction as to route ect, we were all given the postcode for the access, and the other 2 trucks managed to get there by avoiding the bridge. The only escorting I was trying to do was to help him reverse into a side road before the bridge, but he decided he could get under the bridge before I managed to get from the van to the cab.
So because he is ex Army, by the tone of your post it must mean that he is a crisp driver. I am one if countless thousands of ex Army guys now driving for a living and I haven’t hit any bridges. IMO one word sus you up…■■■■!
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A sweeping statement i’ll admit, I look at some of my colleagues (ex army) and my blood runs cold at the thought they were once trusted with a loaded firearm.
No middle ground with Ex army either good or inept clowns.
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Sorry but I have to agree with this, our firm has a lot of ex army and we have both extreme’s as above, some very good and some total numpties, not come across any average ones yet. The boss likes them as they are good at following instruction. The actual driving of the truck on the road is a very small part of our work, in fact you’ll spend more time per shift driving on railway track than you will public highway.
Couldn’t be that expensive for Network Rail / local council, to put one of these up either side of the bridge. After all, it’s only been hit 11 times in the last year…
Those signs are reasonably common in the USA.
But no excuse for drivers hittin’ it just the same.
google.fr/maps/@49.4966719, … 6656?hl=en
Or like this? At a junction an alternative (compulsory) route for vehicles over 4.2metres high. No need for any local knowledge, or maps or Satnavs. When you get there you follow the signs. Fool proof. . . .almost. Better than arriving at a bridge with no signed avoidance routes.
No excuse for missing the signs and, if they were working, the flashing overheight matrix signs, but I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ ■■■■ blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those ■■■■ truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these ■■■■ retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
It should be compulsory for councils to have signs at least 1/4 of a mile from a low bridge, I’ve seen plenty that only tell you the height when you’re pretty much on top of them.
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ [zb] blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those [zb] truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these [zb] retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ [zb] blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those [zb] truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these [zb] retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ [zb] blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those [zb] truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these [zb] retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
Calm down Frankenstein, such angry vibes
Frankenstein??
Well for the purists his monster. You know big bloke, with bolts? Moody bugger
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ [zb] blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those [zb] truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these [zb] retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
A truckers Sat-Nav won’t tell you to slow down mate if it knows about a bridge, it will do everything it can to show you a route around, often a U turn. I know this as mine thinks I can’t get under the arched one just North of Wilton on the A36. But I don’t think that’s the issue, as I’ve had it direct/route me to a bridge I know I can’t get under, and I think that’s the real problem, errors with the programming/software!
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ [zb] blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those [zb] truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these [zb] retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
Radar19:
It should be compulsory for councils to have signs at least 1/4 of a mile from a low bridge, I’ve seen plenty that only tell you the height when you’re pretty much on top of them.
The signs for the bridge in the OP start at least 2 miles before you get to it and there are many of them. It doesn’t seem to help.
exit:
I know that that bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps. Wonder if that contributes to some of the strikes.
I know that is not your own personal opinion mate as such, but really? That is used as an excuse?
This forum is becoming like a bloody jigsaw where various threads fit together.
So the bridge is missing from certain sat nav maps.
The occasions where this was the reason (or rather the excuse) one question is obvious
Were all these ‘‘drivers’’ [zb] blind, stupid or both?
All that proves is what I have always thought…some drivers are so totally reliant on sat navs that they go (or indeed are) permanently, dead from the neck up .
So let me clarify this.
If they are not told what to do by their truck designated sat nav ie.‘’ Slow down low bridge ahead’’ (or whatever those [zb] truck things tell you to do. ) they are so numb and stupid that they can not think for themselves, and slow down to stop for a low bridge which is ahead of them, …‘‘because the sat nav did not tell them to’’ Jeez H.
They are even MORE beyond any help than even I thought.
Get these [zb] retarded limpdicks out of truck driving seats now ffs.!
, it just comes naturally.
