r slicker:
Well as a former North Notts miner i would like to ask how old all these idiots who are calling me personally a scab do you know the facts or are you surmising as normal ■■.
get a life idiot.
They wont answer you because they are too thick to understand what happened. To some we will always be Scabs makes me laugh when I go to a football match and 15 year old Yorkshire kids call you a scab, I was only a baby when the minors strike was on so I ■■■■ well you weren’t even [zb] born.
last night when i read the op first post starting the thread it really annoyed me and when i saw where he was from i thought wot a ■■■■■
i ment no personal offence to no one but i lived through this first hand and it was hard real hard.
i have no love for either tesco and definately not stobart but these boys and girls are fighting for what they have worked for.
r slicker:
Well as a former North Notts miner i would like to ask how old all these idiots who are calling me personally a scab do you know the facts or are you surmising as normal ■■.
get a life idiot.
They wont answer you because they are too thick to understand what happened. To some we will always be Scabs makes me laugh when I go to a football match and 15 year old Yorkshire kids call you a scab, I was only a baby when the minors strike was on so I ■■■■ well you weren’t even [zb] born.
last night when i read the op first post starting the thread it really annoyed me and when i saw where he was from i thought wot a [zb].
i ment no personal offence to no one but i lived through this first hand and it was hard real hard.
i have no love for either tesco and definately not stobart but these boys and girls are fighting for what they have worked for.
Like you I don’t agree with people crossing picket lines and undermining what people are fighting for but at the end of the day I have a wife and 2 kids and if I don’t earn the money they don’t eat and that will never happen I would go and work somewhere else if I was agency!
At the end of the day the people going in and bailing ESL and Tesco’s on agency/subbie are going for short term gain but in the long run they are driving down the rates for drivers across the country and to those of you think it wont happen to you next.
The minors strike was a farce and they could have won if Scargil knew what he was doing
madmanjay:
would just like to say i have enjoyed the last 2 days running trailers out of tesco doncaster getting called a [zb] and they clap every time you drive in remember this i may be a [zb] but this [zb] has a job and thanks for the hand clapping i know my driving is good lol
If you behave like that, the job you have will end up being a ■■■■ job with ■■■■ pay, and so will everybody else’s. I don’t understand why you’d gloat about making a deal with the devil - at the very least you could claim you were struggling financially and needed the money, instead of just putting two fingers up and pretending that you’ve figured out some master plan for your own job security. What happens when the next guy learns your trick, and decides to undercut you in turn? Are you going to race him to the bottom?
Or, dare I ask, is there no low to which you will not go?!
the maoster:
Agree or disagree with the strike by all means (and I suspect the majority crossing the picket line don’t even have a clue what the strike is about) but ffs fellas these folk on the picket line are taking part in legitimate industrial action against Victorian type mill owning robber barons and greedy share holders.
I would say that it’s the thin end of the wedge but sadly it isn’t, most of us here are the victims of laughable wages only made palatable by the huge amount of hours we do to put food on the table. So yes, these Tesco drivers had good wages and good T’ & C’s but they didn’t get given them, they’ve been fought for for years by workers who knew their worth to the company and simply demanded fair recompense for a fair days work.
Don’t let the politics of envy blind you to the fact that it could be you next…
yeah they fought for what they thought they were worth but they have maybe priced themselves out of a job at the same time?
I understand what you’re getting at re pricing themselves out of a job, but by who’s standards? We hear daily about how many millions these supermarkets make in profit, but where does the money go? I realise that some goes to store renovation and upgrading but the rest goes to the shareholders.
Yes, they have a right to a return on their investment, but at what cost? When is enough money enough?
there’s a going rate, in my opinion this rate is determined by every man and woman who has the means, eligibility and the ability to drive a truck in the uk. the rate is set when a similar amount people say they’ll drive a truck for that money, rather than do something else for the amount of driving positions in the country.
But why should the “going rate” be determined by the market? The market is set up to enrich the rich and impoverish the poor. If you accept the logic of the market, you accept the right of the rich to get inexorably richer on the backs of the labour of the poorest.
stevieboy308:
it doesn’t matter what side of the to strike or not to strike fence you sit, surely everyone can see if you’re being paid significantly more than the going rate and not in a specialist sector, then it might not last forever.
There may be some truth in that, but the lesson to take away is that if you want to have decent wages, you have to have solidarity, and you have to make sure your fellow worker also has decent wages.
Thats a phoney site that mate, at the very best even if i was wrong and its not phoney then if it puported to do what it says it would be illegal as things stand now.
the maoster:
Agree or disagree with the strike by all means (and I suspect the majority crossing the picket line don’t even have a clue what the strike is about) but ffs fellas these folk on the picket line are taking part in legitimate industrial action against Victorian type mill owning robber barons and greedy share holders.
I would say that it’s the thin end of the wedge but sadly it isn’t, most of us here are the victims of laughable wages only made palatable by the huge amount of hours we do to put food on the table. So yes, these Tesco drivers had good wages and good T’ & C’s but they didn’t get given them, they’ve been fought for for years by workers who knew their worth to the company and simply demanded fair recompense for a fair days work.
Don’t let the politics of envy blind you to the fact that it could be you next…
yeah they fought for what they thought they were worth but they have maybe priced themselves out of a job at the same time?
I understand what you’re getting at re pricing themselves out of a job, but by who’s standards? We hear daily about how many millions these supermarkets make in profit, but where does the money go? I realise that some goes to store renovation and upgrading but the rest goes to the shareholders.
Yes, they have a right to a return on their investment, but at what cost? When is enough money enough?
there’s a going rate, in my opinion this rate is determined by every man and woman who has the means, eligibility and the ability to drive a truck in the uk. the rate is set when a similar amount people say they’ll drive a truck for that money, rather than do something else for the amount of driving positions in the country.
But why should the “going rate” be determined by the market? The market is set up to enrich the rich and impoverish the poor. If you accept the logic of the market, you accept the right of the rich to get inexorably richer on the backs of the labour of the poorest.
how is the market set up?
how does it enrich the rich and impoverish the poor?
why shouldn’t the market decide? the market gives true values of worth, why is that not fair?
if the market shouldn’t decide, who should?
ste87:
stevieboy308:
it doesn’t matter what side of the to strike or not to strike fence you sit, surely everyone can see if you’re being paid significantly more than the going rate and not in a specialist sector, then it might not last forever.
There may be some truth in that, but the lesson to take away is that if you want to have decent wages, you have to have solidarity, and you have to make sure your fellow worker also has decent wages.
i don’t see how it’s the lesson to take away, as this thread is about people on decent wages, i’m guessing, but because of solidarity? that are losing their decent wages. the solidarity thing produces an artificial high level and not a true level and as i said earlier, it might not last forever.
the way to get decent wages imho is to restrict the number of people who can do the job. that’s why i said on the dcpc thread to make it a pass / fail and make it hard
stevieboy308:
the way to get decent wages imho is to restrict the number of people who can do the job. that’s why i said on the dcpc thread to make it a pass / fail and make it hard
stevieboy308:
the way to get decent wages imho is to restrict the number of people who can do the job. that’s why i said on the dcpc thread to make it a pass / fail and make it hard
This I definitely agree with.
Me too, and link insurance (accident) records to licence/digi card electronically, making useless accident prone clowns unemployable.
stevieboy308:
the way to get decent wages imho is to restrict the number of people who can do the job. that’s why i said on the dcpc thread to make it a pass / fail and make it hard
This I definitely agree with.
+1
Weed out the retards (which probably equates to around 90% of lorry drivers) and the rest of us will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Truckulent:
A post that shows how stupid some drivers (here the OP), really are…truly a class 1 [zb]
I’d agree the OP’s post just seems childish, just like kiddie banter ha ha i’ll drive through your picket etc…
Truckulent:
And we wonder why we struggle to get a decent wage…
Well this bit is a bit more interesting. I wonder how many Doncaster Tesco drivers went to support their fellow colleages in Middlewich when the same happened to them? I wonder how many drivers from Tescos Livingston went to aid their fellows in Middlewich ? I also wonder how many Doncaster drivers put themselves out for the Livingsone drivers? They’ve all stuck their head in the sand, younger guys wanna keep their jobs, older guys just want the best redundancy package. Whats new.
Its everyones job to get 100% from their employer (and more if you can get it!!!) wether you work for Tescos or Stobarts.
r slicker:
Well as a former North Notts miner i would like to ask how old all these idiots who are calling me personally a scab do you know the facts or are you surmising as normal ■■.
get a life idiot.
They wont answer you because they are too thick to understand what happened. To some we will always be Scabs makes me laugh when I go to a football match and 15 year old Yorkshire kids call you a scab, I was only a baby when the minors strike was on so I ■■■■ well you weren’t even [zb] born.
last night when i read the op first post starting the thread it really annoyed me and when i saw where he was from i thought wot a [zb].
i ment no personal offence to no one but i lived through this first hand and it was hard real hard.
i have no love for either tesco and definately not stobart but these boys and girls are fighting for what they have worked for.
Like you I don’t agree with people crossing picket lines and undermining what people are fighting for but at the end of the day I have a wife and 2 kids and if I don’t earn the money they don’t eat and that will never happen I would go and work somewhere else if I was agency!
At the end of the day the people going in and bailing ESL and Tesco’s on agency/subbie are going for short term gain but in the long run they are driving down the rates for drivers across the country and to those of you think it wont happen to you next.
The minors strike was a farce and they could have won if Scargil knew what he was doing
Wtf do you know. Just carry on commenting whilst your heads up your arse.
r slicker:
Well as a former North Notts miner i would like to ask how old all these idiots who are calling me personally a scab do you know the facts or are you surmising as normal ■■.
get a life idiot.
They wont answer you because they are too thick to understand what happened. To some we will always be Scabs makes me laugh when I go to a football match and 15 year old Yorkshire kids call you a scab, I was only a baby when the minors strike was on so I ■■■■ well you weren’t even [zb] born.
last night when i read the op first post starting the thread it really annoyed me and when i saw where he was from i thought wot a [zb].
i ment no personal offence to no one but i lived through this first hand and it was hard real hard.
i have no love for either tesco and definately not stobart but these boys and girls are fighting for what they have worked for.
Like you I don’t agree with people crossing picket lines and undermining what people are fighting for but at the end of the day I have a wife and 2 kids and if I don’t earn the money they don’t eat and that will never happen I would go and work somewhere else if I was agency!
At the end of the day the people going in and bailing ESL and Tesco’s on agency/subbie are going for short term gain but in the long run they are driving down the rates for drivers across the country and to those of you think it wont happen to you next.
The minors strike was a farce and they could have won if Scargil knew what he was doing
Wtf do you know. Just carry on commenting whilst your heads up your arse.
It would have been won if the scabby notts area come out on strike.
Right gum shield in the problem with strikes is supply and demand you go on strike say other drivers back you then you get a newbi struggling to get a job William offers him work via agency for less money newbi gets job pays bills strikers loss out . Same with the pits thatcher could see what would happen with no coal as of the 70s she knew she could get it cheaper from abroad same with drivers. It’s all to do with the common market or as its known Europe. So lads and lasses think before you act we are all replaceable because of Europe.
r slicker:
Well as a former North Notts miner i would like to ask how old all these idiots who are calling me personally a scab do you know the facts or are you surmising as normal ■■.
get a life idiot.
They wont answer you because they are too thick to understand what happened. To some we will always be Scabs makes me laugh when I go to a football match and 15 year old Yorkshire kids call you a scab, I was only a baby when the minors strike was on so I ■■■■ well you weren’t even [zb] born.
last night when i read the op first post starting the thread it really annoyed me and when i saw where he was from i thought wot a [zb].
i ment no personal offence to no one but i lived through this first hand and it was hard real hard.
i have no love for either tesco and definately not stobart but these boys and girls are fighting for what they have worked for.
Like you I don’t agree with people crossing picket lines and undermining what people are fighting for but at the end of the day I have a wife and 2 kids and if I don’t earn the money they don’t eat and that will never happen I would go and work somewhere else if I was agency!
At the end of the day the people going in and bailing ESL and Tesco’s on agency/subbie are going for short term gain but in the long run they are driving down the rates for drivers across the country and to those of you think it wont happen to you next.
The minors strike was a farce and they could have won if Scargil knew what he was doing
Wtf do you know. Just carry on commenting whilst your heads up your arse.
It would have been won if the scabby notts area come out on strike.
How can they be Scabby you stupid ■■■■ they were never balloted to strike you thick thick ■■■■ no wonder you ended up a driver
r slicker:
Well as a former North Notts miner i would like to ask how old all these idiots who are calling me personally a scab do you know the facts or are you surmising as normal ■■.
get a life idiot.
They wont answer you because they are too thick to understand what happened. To some we will always be Scabs makes me laugh when I go to a football match and 15 year old Yorkshire kids call you a scab, I was only a baby when the minors strike was on so I ■■■■ well you weren’t even [zb] born.
last night when i read the op first post starting the thread it really annoyed me and when i saw where he was from i thought wot a [zb].
i ment no personal offence to no one but i lived through this first hand and it was hard real hard.
i have no love for either tesco and definately not stobart but these boys and girls are fighting for what they have worked for.
Like you I don’t agree with people crossing picket lines and undermining what people are fighting for but at the end of the day I have a wife and 2 kids and if I don’t earn the money they don’t eat and that will never happen I would go and work somewhere else if I was agency!
At the end of the day the people going in and bailing ESL and Tesco’s on agency/subbie are going for short term gain but in the long run they are driving down the rates for drivers across the country and to those of you think it wont happen to you next.
The minors strike was a farce and they could have won if Scargil knew what he was doing
Wtf do you know. Just carry on commenting whilst your heads up your arse.
It would have been won if the scabby notts area come out on strike.
How can they be Scabby you stupid ■■■■ they were never balloted to strike you thick thick ■■■■ no wonder you ended up a driver
What happened at orgreave then did they all just turn up there to wish them a happy shift. Daft ■■■■■
Angus25:
Right gum shield in the problem with strikes is supply and demand you go on strike say other drivers back you then you get a newbi struggling to get a job William offers him work via agency for less money newbi gets job pays bills strikers loss out . Same with the pits thatcher could see what would happen with no coal as of the 70s she knew she could get it cheaper from abroad same with drivers. It’s all to do with the common market or as its known Europe. So lads and lasses think before you act we are all replaceable because of Europe.
I don’t think a pits a place to send an untrained agency worker get a grip.
