But it’s time to call a spade a spade. Every time its a ■■■■ head or a dangerous idiot, the majority of us are thinking ’ flip flop ’
And most of the time we are right…
You’ll upset mike68 he’s obviously a fan of there driving abilities
Could’nt give a toss mate. We all know the score.
It’s about time some truth got typed. The image of truck drivers is terrible as it is, and in my opinion this year has been terrible for accidents and bridge strikes. And recently the vast majority seem to include EE’s.
Said it before and i will again. We have enough crap drivers of our own without importing more turd.
I agree with you Beav about 60/40 on this.
Maybe the answer is to make any non Brit wanting to work for a UK co to undergo a DVSA driving test to convert their licence to UK standards.
Thing is you can’t generalise mate, there are a lot of ■■■■ clowns among them yeh, but there are always exceptions.
I know a Polish lad who worked for us who lived over here with his wife and kid who is a spot on driver, and I am sure there are many like him that other lads on here know.
It’s like running the gauntlet coming off the Irish boat on the A75 with all those ■■■■ nut jobs in their V8s etc , everybody says ‘‘■■■■ Paddys, they’re all the same’’ but having done a lot of Irish work over there, I know they are not…fact.
Generalisation and stereotyping is dangerous mate, and just creates a baying mob…as illustrated on here many times.
Thing is though, our greedy, spineless, knobhead haulage companies love these EE’s.
About time they grew some loyalty genes and stopped employing them. It’s not hard to ’ fail ’ an interview or a driving assessment FFS
And certainly no reason to fear employer discrimination, we are leaving the EU anyway. Maybe if these haulage bosses had bags of crap flung all over their garden, or had their family piled into by a ■■■■ can EE, they might start smelling the roses
I take your point Rob regarding stereotyping mate, but I reckon the sheer amount of issues with these lot are now starting to become plainly obvious. They don’t live to our standards and they certainly don’t drive to our standards. I think you are right regarding compulsory UK testing too.
eagerbeaver:
Thing is though, our greedy, spineless, knobhead haulage companies love these EE’s.
I take your point Rob regarding stereotyping mate, but I reckon the sheer amount of issues with these lot are now starting to become plainly obvious. They don’t live to our standards and they certainly don’t drive to our standards. I think you are right regarding compulsory UK testing too.
Muahahahaha don’t live to our standards who said your standards are good in the first place or something that should be followed?
As to the driving standards UK does not attract good drivers from EE purely do to the expensive housing costs, bad road networks which make an easy job difficult and the lack of possibilities to see their families. Majority of good drivers opt to become owner drivers and set up their own businesses in their home countries rather than being a slave for the boss.
Regarding the usual stuff about undercutting rates oh well that is capitalism, EE didn’t invent it it adapted and
eagerbeaver:
Thing is though, our greedy, spineless, knobhead haulage companies love these EE’s.
I take your point Rob regarding stereotyping mate, but I reckon the sheer amount of issues with these lot are now starting to become plainly obvious. They don’t live to our standards and they certainly don’t drive to our standards. I think you are right regarding compulsory UK testing too.
Muahahahaha don’t live to our standards who said your standards are good in the first place or something that should be followed?
As to the driving standards UK does not attract good drivers from EE purely do to the expensive housing costs, bad road networks which make an easy job difficult and the lack of possibilities to see their families. Majority of good drivers opt to become owner drivers and set up their own businesses in their home countries rather than being a slave for the boss.
Regarding the usual stuff about undercutting rates oh well that is capitalism, EE didn’t invent it it adapted and
why not?
ive worked like that for years doing subby work on trip money.
24/7 and the only sleep your getting is on the ferry or tipping/loading.
it suits some folk,and you can still be wrecked and drive within your limits.
stobartski flipflop was most likely just bored out of his ■■■■ on cruise control catching u on the breaking news about the price of cabbages in krakov.
eagerbeaver:
Thing is though, our greedy, spineless, knobhead haulage companies love these EE’s.
I take your point Rob regarding stereotyping mate, but I reckon the sheer amount of issues with these lot are now starting to become plainly obvious. They don’t live to our standards and they certainly don’t drive to our standards. I think you are right regarding compulsory UK testing too.
Muahahahaha don’t live to our standards who said your standards are good in the first place or something that should be followed?
As to the driving standards UK does not attract good drivers from EE purely do to the expensive housing costs, bad road networks which make an easy job difficult and the lack of possibilities to see their families. Majority of good drivers opt to become owner drivers and set up their own businesses in their home countries rather than being a slave for the boss.
Regarding the usual stuff about undercutting rates oh well that is capitalism, EE didn’t invent it it adapted and
Stop talking ■■■■■■■■ mate FFS My standards are as follows; I don’t [zb] in a bag and throw it. I don’t park on motorway hard shoulders. I don’t drive ■■■■■■ up. I don’t drive whilst watching a lap top. I don’t drive whilst scrolling through music and wipe out families. I don’t drive while chatting on my mobile phone in my hand.
Do you want me to carry on? Good, fasten your seat belt. I don’t do the Romanian cab dance. I don’t work for peanuts. I don’t strap a massive Sky dish to my mirror and run my engine next to people who are trying to sleep. I don’t ■■■■ all over the tarmac area at MSA’s.
Want a bit more? Good. I don’t use magnets. I don’t have a spare tacho card. I don’t spend my weely rest in my cab. I don’t hit bridges.
And as regards housing costs being too high here, YOU are helping drive the prices up because there arent enough homes for British folk in the first place. So take your crap (both physical and metaphoric) and F O
robthedog:
Another ee suprise suprise And he wasn’t drunk ■■?
Typical UK anti Euro driver crap. These guys travel across Europe and will have far more experience than many UK drivers who go no further than Travis Perkins at Dover
eagerbeaver:
Thing is though, our greedy, spineless, knobhead haulage companies love these EE’s.
I take your point Rob regarding stereotyping mate, but I reckon the sheer amount of issues with these lot are now starting to become plainly obvious. They don’t live to our standards and they certainly don’t drive to our standards. I think you are right regarding compulsory UK testing too.
Muahahahaha don’t live to our standards who said your standards are good in the first place or something that should be followed?
As to the driving standards UK does not attract good drivers from EE purely do to the expensive housing costs, bad road networks which make an easy job difficult and the lack of possibilities to see their families. Majority of good drivers opt to become owner drivers and set up their own businesses in their home countries rather than being a slave for the boss.
Regarding the usual stuff about undercutting rates oh well that is capitalism, EE didn’t invent it it adapted and
Stop talking ■■■■■■■■ mate FFS My standards are as follows; I don’t [zb] in a bag and throw it. I don’t park on motorway hard shoulders. I don’t drive ■■■■■■ up. I don’t drive whilst watching a lap top. I don’t drive whilst scrolling through music and wipe out families. I don’t drive while chatting on my mobile phone in my hand.
Do you want me to carry on? Good, fasten your seat belt. I don’t do the Romanian cab dance. I don’t work for peanuts. I don’t strap a massive Sky dish to my mirror and run my engine next to people who are trying to sleep. I don’t ■■■■ all over the tarmac area at MSA’s.
Want a bit more? Good. I don’t use magnets. I don’t have a spare tacho card. I don’t spend my weely rest in my cab. I don’t hit bridges.
And as regards housing costs being too high here, YOU are helping drive the prices up because there arent enough homes for British folk in the first place. So take your crap (both physical and metaphoric) and F O
in Portuguese Lad living in England for the past 10 years or more , and I sign below you Beaver mate , even if that means I need to pack up my stuff and F O , wish my country had the same balls the do a Brexit too ! I consider myself a highly skilled driver BUT along the years England been the key to learn Standards so my skills are put to good use , make sense ? Unfortunately these days there’s a lot of ppl that misunderstand NACIONALISM with RACISM ! They can’t see the difference… yes England getting to crowed in many ways hence prizes rise in many things and salary’s tend to get skinnier, it’s called Capitalism… you were spot on with the “I don’t do’s “ [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
robthedog:
Another ee suprise suprise And he wasn’t drunk ■■?
Typical UK anti Euro driver crap. These guys travel across Europe and will have far more experience than many UK drivers who go no further than Travis Perkins at Dover
It is undeniable that eastern European drivers are involved in a disproportionate number of accidents in the UK compared to native drivers, and it is also undeniable that there is a heavy drinking culture in eastern Europe. There is an issue here, and getting all “PC” about it and going into denial isn’t helpful to anybody.
robthedog:
Another ee suprise suprise And he wasn’t drunk ■■?
Typical UK anti Euro driver crap. These guys travel across Europe and will have far more experience than many UK drivers who go no further than Travis Perkins at Dover
It is undeniable that eastern European drivers are involved in a disproportionate number of accidents in the UK compared to native drivers, and it is also undeniable that there is a heavy drinking culture in eastern Europe. There is an issue here, and getting all “PC” about it and going into denial isn’t helpful to anybody.
IMO theres far too much knocking drivers of other nationalities, nothing to do with getting PC about it. Theres also a heavy drinking culture in the UK, euro football matches are a prime example of the UK knobheads that come over to Europe wreck bars and cafes and think its all ok to do it EE drivers and any other nationality have just as much right to use the roads of the UK as you and i have and quite rightly vice versa…
I passed a hand car wash recently. One guy was in there washing cars wearing a TRG logistics hi-vis. maybe he nabbed it from his old agency but the cynic in me says otherwise. The busy idiots are here to work work work. That’s exactly what these companies want. I’m sure the TM will visit him in klink to express his appreciation for the extra hours he put in.
AndrewG:
IMO theres far too much knocking drivers of other nationalities, nothing to do with getting PC about it. Theres also a heavy drinking culture in the UK, euro football matches are a prime example of the UK knobheads that come over to Europe wreck bars and cafes and think its all ok to do it EE drivers and any other nationality have just as much right to use the roads of the UK as you and i have and quite rightly vice versa…
Generally though, it’s unusual for British drivers to drive trucks while three or four times over the drink-drive limit, which seems to be a commonplace occurrence with eastern European drivers, if media reports are to be believed. From the time I personally spent driving trucks around eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union though, I can tell you that this isn’t just some media invention.
Harry Monk:
There is an issue here, and getting all “PC” about it and going into denial isn’t helpful to anybody.
^ This
There should be no mystery about it.The roads of the slavic world were always an extremely dangerous place to be often with just unbelievable standards of driving.The Italians generally seeming to be the only ones who even at their worst still seem to be able to actually drive.No surprise that many of the modern day youtube examples seem to confirm the old stereotypes such as in Russia.On that note what were your own experiences there ?.I know I’ve never seen anything as bad or frightening anywhere in Western Europe/Scandinavia as driving in Yugoslavia could be at least.
I’m sure you’ll all like this quote:
“My friends husband is a transport manager and tells me the reason there is a uk shortage of LGV drivers is because they have to hold a drivers cpc certificate (caused by a tightening of the rules). An LG class 1 driver earns easily £30,000 + So all the people commenting that it’s because of the Tories minimum, wage etc are so so misguided… Drivers call the shots these days as they are hard to find and recruit! There is a 40,000 driver shortage uk wide! Eddie Stobart directors are legally culpable if they allow drivers to drive outside of their legal hours and also face jail. Believe it or not the transport governing laws are very tight.”
When I was driving over there the maximum was a 12.5 hour spread, so now nob’eads reckon it’s safer to be able to do 15 hour stints at the same time as getting bored witless from driving on motorways. There was a lot more A road driving in my day and I admit less traffic, but to increasethe amount of hours worked is madness.
left gretna Saturday morning 5am M6 j26 Romanian truck spun car around 15 min holdup,j20 Romanian truck pushed car into barrier motorway shut for clear up 30 mins,j12 Latvian truck spun car around 10 mins holdup,j12 M1 polish truck spun car around another 10 mins,FFS when is this country going to get some balls and stop this carnage,travel up the M1 on a Monday morning and it’s a convoy of Eastern Europe trucks mostly with a phone stuck to there ear or there foot on the dash and strangely overtaking my truck which does have a limiter,I have no time for polish/Latvian/Romanian/Bulgarian drivers who come to this country and have no respect for Uk driving laws,why do we let these people park in laybyes with no toilet facilities for days on end,where do you think they leave there crap?dirty uneducated scum who have no respect for this country or it’s laws.
, everybody says ‘‘■■■■ Paddys, they’re all the same’’ but having done a lot of Irish work over there, I know they are not…fact.
who said your standards are good in the first place or something that should be followed?
