Spoke to a green dragon yesterday and he’s adamant they only strap back 2 on 26 pallets of beer, With or without xl curtains. I kind of agree they won’t move with correct driving but I think your are leaving yourself open to a fine if pulled.
eagerbeaver:
Doesn’t interest the knobhead planners though. On a number of occasions I was given a tandem and a trailer number. On one particular occasion I looked in the trailer, and it had 26 pallets of childrens books loaded. Back upstairs to the knob’s to ask for a 6 wheeler and was told " It should be ok ".
I then asked what the weight was which they predictably replied " Don’t know ".After explaining that it was more than probably overweight, but I would explain to DVSA that the planners said it was ok, miraculously I got given a 6 wheel unit.
I can relate to this one, you’ve got to be really careful with 4 wheelers on general work. I’ve quite a few times had to turn down jobs given on the phone like “head into the brewery for a load back” because i’m in a 4 legger & know it’ll be too heavy…the planners often just don’t think of it. I wonder how many drivers just go & do it though.
Ok, my employer (large fleet of brown vehicles with yellow writing!) recently issued all drivers with a compliance reminder on load securing requirements.
Apparently one vehicle was stopped by DVSA and one pallet was insecure, and this resulted in the Operator’s compliance score being marked down.
The guidance issued to the drivers states that all pallets over 400kg must be secured to the load bed with ratchet straps.
Any pallet on any vehicle must not be able to slide forwards, backwards or sideways, or fall over.
DVSA accepts EN12642XL rated trailers/vehicles without extra securing ONLY if the load fills the entire load area with NO gaps.
If this guidance is not followed then the DRIVER can get fined. However the DVSA will give a driver 60 minutes to secure the load. If it can’t be done then the vehicle may be immobilised.
It has been made clear that all of this is the driver’s responsibility, and it is also the driver’s responsibility to carry enough ratchet straps and internal straps.
This applies to every trip.
Cosmic:
Ok, my employer (large fleet of brown vehicles with yellow writing!) recently issued all drivers with a compliance reminder on load securing requirements.
Apparently one vehicle was stopped by DVSA and one pallet was insecure, and this resulted in the Operator’s compliance score being marked down.
The guidance issued to the drivers states that all pallets over 400kg must be secured to the load bed with ratchet straps.
Any pallet on any vehicle must not be able to slide forwards, backwards or sideways, or fall over.
DVSA accepts EN12642XL rated trailers/vehicles without extra securing ONLY if the load fills the entire load area with NO gaps.
If this guidance is not followed then the DRIVER can get fined. However the DVSA will give a driver 60 minutes to secure the load. If it can’t be done then the vehicle may be immobilised.
It has been made clear that all of this is the driver’s responsibility, and it is also the driver’s responsibility to carry enough ratchet straps and internal straps.
This applies to every trip.
Meh. Glad I do nights when VOSA are all tucked up in bed 
. Can’t remember the last time I saw a battenburg. Nights are for sitting about drinking coffee, sleeping in between jobs and generally doing ■■■■ all, not wasting time securing stuff that no-one’s going to see 
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Just another comment on this strap issue…I remember 1994 /95…The Frenchies started locking up English Drivers who broke tachograph rules…Reason they wanted us to be more frightened of them than our employers… It worked… VOSA will go down the same road…they have so far issued the minimum fines…Stay tuned
Rog270:
Just another comment on this strap issue…I remember 1994 /95…The Frenchies started locking up English Drivers who broke tachograph rules…Reason they wanted us to be more frightened of them than our employers… It worked… VOSA will go down the same road…they have so far issued the minimum fines…Stay tuned
Yep, you got a free two day break in France…normally with a smelly tramp in the same cell and only got to a phone if your “donated” to their fund ! It was NOT fun.
Spain just stole every penny of money from you and chained the wagon up to ■■■■ you off about the same time.
We are not brave enough here to do that…But it will soon be lots of points and a TC visit for drivers and enforced “holidays” from work I reckon. It’s about time the big hauliers had to put up with the ■■■■ the smaller firms have been given…
Drift:
My thinking is if we had just a few large players in the haulage industry and if the winds blew in the right direction they managed to get unionised (corbin) then that would be a bigger threat to the system.
more medium sized companies where the staff are less organised and fractionated would be an ideal senario for the government.
the working mans back was broke when we first bought our council houses and subsiquently laden with debt, keeps the masses fractionated and causes self intrest to take priority over a bigger picture.
But if our peers, lords, politicians have shares in various companies, …who knows
The lords are the only ones you can put any trust in, and even then something something throw them.
Vested interests in all players is the best situation for the government. Easier to do with large players, more to share with smaller players (though still big enough, as in big regional companies).
I’m laughing now Mr 3 Wheeler…had me 3 night lock up .Lyon…Fxx bread roll they gave me to eat on first day,I was still kicking around the cell when they let me out.that was when I got warned… Never got me again. Didn’t matter how much shi…I had from Guvnor
dozy:
wee gordy:
I work for tesco,we do collections ,coca cola,highland Spring 2 straps at rear only as we have heavy duty curtains never been pulled as yetI have often in the past done back hauls for tesco , and I’ve no idea if the load was strapped or if it was how many straps there were , the trailers were always loaded/ sealed by the customer ( this was fresh though , chilled , frozen ) .
Same as taking the loads out , fresh / ambient , there always sealed , I just check the seal number corresponds to the seal number on the pod sheet .
Back hauls for tesco are on fridges. They are easy to strap in the boxes. This issue is for the curtain siders.
And I agree with a few peoples comments on here. Drive according to the load. If you put the thruck and trailer on its side, no amount of straps are gonna make a difference to the load.
Phil1979:
dozy:
wee gordy:
I work for tesco,we do collections ,coca cola,highland Spring 2 straps at rear only as we have heavy duty curtains never been pulled as yetI have often in the past done back hauls for tesco , and I’ve no idea if the load was strapped or if it was how many straps there were , the trailers were always loaded/ sealed by the customer ( this was fresh though , chilled , frozen ) .
Same as taking the loads out , fresh / ambient , there always sealed , I just check the seal number corresponds to the seal number on the pod sheet .Back hauls for tesco are on fridges. They are easy to strap in the boxes. This issue is for the curtain siders.
And I agree with a few peoples comments on here. Drive according to the load. If you put the thruck and trailer on its side, no amount of straps are gonna make a difference to the load.
Thing is Phil if the load is correctly strapped down it will not move even if the truck is on its side, you can drive as steady as you like but when you have to slam on because a little girl runs in the road in front of you that’s when you come unstuck, the whole point of strapping down the load is for the potential outcome of such an event.