you’ll be ok at Britax in Andover as all you’ve got to do is give your keys in and go back to cab
Toys r us in Coventry didn’t even take my keys 
yourhavingalarf:
I wouldn’t mind so much but, where we’re asked to wait (sometimes for hours on end) are usually uncomfortable at best and downright doss holes at worst.Most RDCs don’t trust us with the keys. There have been drive off’s and people have been injured because of it so I can see what they’re trying to achieve. One possible solution to keep us in our cabs is to lock off the red line with a key system. I’ll admit it’s fiddly and messy having to put the thing on and it doesn’t apply to rigid vehicles but, other than expensive wheel lock systems I don’t know what to suggest.
Went to plaice a few years ago where we was trusted to sit in our cabs with an airline lock given to you buy the gate man until some bright spark after getting a green light turns up at the gate using the shunt button . …
I’m lucky that I don’t do RDC’s often.
This is something that could be stopped if we all said NO we don’t accept that,but as 90% of drivers are yes men we have this situation
yorkshire terrier:
This is something that could be stopped if we all said NO we don’t accept that,but as 90% of drivers are yes men we have this situation
Oh god, you are deluded.
You have this situation because drivers have killed, injured, and done property damage by driving off under the wrong circumstances.
I bet you are one of the clowns that says the same about the introduction of the CPC too 
I HATE health and safety rubbish, but I don’t lie to myself and others about why it exists.
Yep. Agree with you there F-r. Too many knobs have driven off on green, had rollaway’s, etc,etc.
It’s a bit like the litter situation mate. A small minority crap the place up, next minute nobody is welcome. Bone idle, thick as pig [zb].
Why does it seem that pride is now only a term for a group of lions?
eagerbeaver:
Why does it seem that pride is now only a term for a group of lions?
I hear ya Beaver. I rarely stop in lay bys but when I do, I always fill a spare carrier bag with rubbish and bin it at the next services. Other drivers look at me like I have two heads 
Greek mythology mentions many creatures with two heads. Didn’t realise you were a plate smasher mate.
F-reds:
I don’t do RDC work, I never have thankfully, but I cant understand why they invest in all these expensive things that constantly getting damaged, and annoying drivers.Driver backs onto bay, forklift driver dumps a concrete block weighing a couple of ton directly in front of the unit, they you go drive, keep your keys and ■■■■■■■■■■ yourself silly, because you aren’t going anywhere until the forklift removes the obstacle.
Fortec Pallet, Watford Gap. 
F-reds:
yorkshire terrier:
This is something that could be stopped if we all said NO we don’t accept that,but as 90% of drivers are yes men we have this situationOh god, you are deluded.
You have this situation because drivers have killed, injured, and done property damage by driving off under the wrong circumstances.
I bet you are one of the clowns that says the same about the introduction of the CPC too
I HATE health and safety rubbish, but I don’t lie to myself and others about why it exists.
How am I deluded ,if we had to put on an air lock how could we drive off.
Also I think the dcpc is a good idea but delivered all wrong,
yorkshire terrier:
How am I deluded ,if we had to put on an air lock how could we drive off.
Also I think the dcpc is a good idea but delivered all wrong,
The idea that if we all just said NO is what I’m referring to. It exists not because people say YES, but because a minority of drivers are ■■■■■■■ Herbert’s, and do millions of pounds of damage, and hurt people.
chester1:
Went to plaice a few years ago where we was trusted to sit in our cabs with an airline lock given to you buy the gate man until some bright spark after getting a green light turns up at the gate using the shunt button . …
I refer you above ^^^
F-reds:
yorkshire terrier:
How am I deluded ,if we had to put on an air lock how could we drive off.
Also I think the dcpc is a good idea but delivered all wrong,The idea that if we all just said NO is what I’m referring to. It exists not because people say YES, but because a minority of drivers are [zb] Herbert’s, and do millions of pounds of damage, and hurt people.
chester1:
Went to plaice a few years ago where we was trusted to sit in our cabs with an airline lock given to you buy the gate man until some bright spark after getting a green light turns up at the gate using the shunt button . …I refer you above ^^^
So we all have to be treated like idiots because of the few numb skulls in this industry 
yorkshire terrier:
So we all have to be treated like idiots because of the few numb skulls in this industry
Simple answer? Yes we do.
Now we both agree the DCPC is not fulfilling its potential. Perhaps if it was pass/fail we could start weeding out the numb skulls? Maybe wages would increase as a result?
I also think we need to come up with a standardised Health & Safety policy across all sites, made not by suits scared of prosecution, but by people that have actually done the job. Who knows, perhaps it could even boost our productivity through efficiency?
F-reds:
yorkshire terrier:
So we all have to be treated like idiots because of the few numb skulls in this industrySimple answer? Yes we do.
Now we both agree the DCPC is not fulfilling its potential. Perhaps if it was pass/fail we could start weeding out the numb skulls? Maybe wages would increase as a result?
I also think we need to come up with a standardised Health & Safety policy across all sites, made not by suits scared of prosecution, but by people that have actually done the job. Who knows, perhaps it could even boost our productivity through efficiency?
Dcpc needs sorting way too much bull crap in that been soaked up by gullible drivers.
Last one I was on the bloke doing the course said I was irresponsible because I change my own bulbs
bald bloke:
red7jase:
No keys and gravity prevent roll away even if you take of the handbrake.A lot of drivers carry a spare don’t forget, there was an EE driver tipping on a bay at my old place he handed his keys in and at the time drivers were allowed to sit in their cabs and he then for some reason we never got to the bottom of pulled off the bay with his spare set just as the pallet truck driver was bringing a pallet off luckily the warehouse bod wasn’t too hurt, from then on no drivers in cabs and keys in the office.
Well this is where it all “allegedly” started though wasn’t it.
We all used to sit in cab with keys until an EE driver wakes up from a snooze and sees a green light in his drivers side mirror so he pulls off the bay, only problem is he’s in a left ■■■■■■ so is looking at the bay lights for the bay next to him (his light is on the right and still red)
so they ban keys.
Then some bright spark comes up with the fake keys hand in thing and he’s so proud of his ingenuity he tells all and sundry, until another slightly lesser of a bright spark sees a green light and drives off the bay forgetting to collect his fake set first, RDC bods catch on and make all drivers sit on the naughty bench from then on out.
That’s how I’ve heard it told anyway, could be true could be total tosh ■■■■ only knows, but it makes sense, after all the majority of the time we do tend to be our own worst enemy.
Sainsburys introduced a cab ban and a keys in office approach, across all depots…this was because of one of their own drivers at a certain depot, was rooting around his cab and knocked the handbrake off, just as a forkie was entering him from behind 
…one depot at Emerson green, tells you to lock the cab, and they actually check that you have.
It really annoys most of us, especially as a couple of hours kip on the bunk, did me wonders…but i agree in a sense with Mercman…but when they phone your boss to tell him to sack you cos your barred, or dont send any of your trucks here again…theres gonna be a lot of drivers caught unemployed…its not a case of being a yes man, its using your common sense and keeping your job…thats exactly where a strong union is needed…but it aint gonna happen…and lets not forget that a lot of employers rely on RDC work to make a living, and keep drivers employed, why jeopardise his and your own living because yo dont like the rules…and once again i quote sainsburys, they say if you dont like the site rules, then please leave…and some of those rules include drug and alcohol testing.
On a lighter note i loaded in France last year for a delivery to their depot in the Uk…i had to pull into a marked bay ( a painted big yellow oblong marking ) then place back and front signs saying a vehicle is being loaded, then open one curtain ( only one at a time ) takle out the boards, then put on my big yellow hi viz coat, my rigger boots, my helmet, my gloves, helmet, then go and stand against a wall 10 yards away, while they loaded the one side…then i was called to close one curtain…and open the other, stand back against the wall again…when finished loading…i was allowed to strap up ( after of course opening the curtain i had previously closed…then put the boards back in…and to think i would have to do all of that again in their UK depot…that my friends, is H&S at its worst…
clarky3013:
knight2:
I have to admit I’m am getting more than a little peeved with all the unnecessary health and safety rules and regs. I loaded at John smiths at Tadcaster the other day, backed on to the bay put chocks under the wheels put the trailer brake on handed in the keys and then had to go and sit on stupid little bench outside. I then went to Freightliner Leeds and got a warning for answering the cab phone while being booked in.Coke at J41 Wakefield is great, electric wheel chocks on the bays, they don’t take your keys but the forklift driver puts a giant metal stop sign right in front of your unit
The first time I went there I had an argument with the forkie who puts the massive sign in front of you. I didn’t know about the wheel chocks, so I just slung the trailer into the middle of the bay. He came steaming over, huffing and puffing, calling me every name under the sun, and when he realised I wasn’t foreign, he knew he could he could effectively use his limited vocabulary of abusive words. I decided to give him the puppy eyes, and say in a soft, high-pitched voice; “I’m sorry, it’s my first day”. He didn’t know what to do! 
The wheel chocks there seem to be constantly broken, most likely because of the speed and aggression that the shunters put into their reversing.
All this handing your keys in lark makes me laugh, I think it should happen the other way too. If you told a forkie to give you their keys whilst you move a bit of curtain for them, or a retaining bar or a strap, because otherwise they could slip and drive their forks into you, they would look at you with pure incomprehension and disbelief, but it’s just the same as handing your keys into the goods-in office. It’s a flawed system, it doesn’t take much thought to give them a set of decoy keys.
Much better techniques to prevent pull-offs I think are the massive signs in front of you, or just dropping the trailer on the bay, and retreating to a safe area where you can get your head down in the cab. Give the driver a pager, or just take their mobile number to tell them when they’re ready, and job done!
We had one of Cookes banned from our site last week, shunter took the drivers keys from him and put the airline lock on him, an hour or so later the site H&S bod is walking past when the driver gets a green light, takes airline lock off, puts red airline back on and pulls forward to close his doors! Shunter still has the drivers “keys” in his tug! It’s idiots like this who spoil it for the majority of sensible guys.
truckyboy:
this was because of one of their own drivers at a certain depot, was rooting around his cab and knocked the handbrake off, just as a forkie was entering him from behind
No comment…
the maoster:
We had one of Cookes banned from our site last week, shunter took the drivers keys from him and put the airline lock on him, an hour or so later the site H&S bod is walking past when the driver gets a green light, takes airline lock off, puts red airline back on and pulls forward to close his doors! Shunter still has the drivers “keys” in his tug! It’s idiots like this who spoil it for the majority of sensible guys.
I got banned for similar at proctor and gamble Thurrock, albeit they hung your keys at the back of the box, shunter had the salvo key. After waiting an hour and twenty mins after being loaded, I hit the shunt button and pulled off to close the box up. Hadn’t even done 10 ft and 3 shunters decended in convoy shouting and hollowing. I calmly said I’d have done it an hour and ten minutes ago if I knew you would be that quick. The ban lasted until I got a new truck and they got a new gatehouse procedure