Well I have finally landed what seems like a great opportunity,after driving for a firm for the past 6 months on there vans and then only a day and a half on there class 2 
I have finally landed a permanent job with Robert wiseman dairies in willenhall. It wasnât easy though, firstly you have to pass a literacy and numeracy test after which you have a driving assessment which is basically similar to another driving test, they just want to see if you can handle the vehicle and that you are safe. And then it was an interview which was pretty much straight forward, I am glad because it seems there are a lot of possibilities such as that they do a lot of courses in house like the class 1 etc and I could branch off into different things into the future if I wanted to. I met a lot of the current drivers at the depo and after chatting to them I realised all of them had been there for a very long time in deed, not one driver that I had spoken to had said they had been there for less than 5 years, wow, well I donât want to get a head of myself, I could start there and completely hate it but hopefully I will be happy there, I am a newly passed driver, I only have a little over 2 months class 2 experience so I was lucky to get this chanceâŚoh well just wanted to share my good news with the rest of you lotâŚmerry xmas guys and have a safe year out there on the roadâŚ
Merry Christmas and good luck in your new job,
Iâm also a newly qualified class 2 driver and Iâm finding it hard to find a job.
With agency at the moment.
I came across Robert wiseman at a driving instructor development day and was very impressed with the company and truck so I hope you are there for many happy years.
Well done and good luck mate , Iâve never worked for them but they seem a good place to work , all th best bud
Well done, I like class 2 stuff but you seem to have got your goal, good luck for the future and keep us informed. 
literacy and numeracy test Why?
mac12:
literacy and numeracy test Why?
Why not?
If I were employing staff, Iâd like to think they have a basic grasp of reading, writing and arithmetic. Many mistakes can be made by people not understanding instructions or getting figures wrong.
How would you feel if you got short changed every time you went shopping because the store didnât do a simple test?
mac12:
literacy and numeracy test Why?
I would have thought it pretty obvious youâd need basic numeracy skills when most of the work is multi-drop and involves delivering multiple packs of different products distributed across several roll cages? As for literacy - how else is the driver to follow written instructions?
Fair enough if your going to drive a train but to count out a few cages at corner shops, how ever would he pass his test if he could not read or write
Itâs not simply a case of counting off a few cages though. e.g. Paperwork says 72 pints of semi-skimmed, 40 full cream and 12 gold top. Youâve found two cages on the lorry for this store. Without counting off all the containers in each cage individually, how will you work out whether there is anything missing before you head off to the next drop?
Although it is due to change next year, you can currently have an interpreter for your driving test (practical and theory) if you donât speak or read English.
mac12:
literacy and numeracy test Why?
To emphasise the points above theyâre usually a test of the most basic standard which 90+% of Britons wouldnât have any difficulty passing.
Glad itâs not like that at Sainsburyâs, if there paperwork says 5 cages thatâs what they get. If drivers had to count every item in every cage they would be lucky to get one shop per day.
mac12:
If drivers had to count every item in every cage they would be lucky to get one shop per day.
Exactly - with basic numeracy skills and bottles/containers racked up in uniform layers you can quickly calculate the numbers without having to count them all individually.
if it says arkrights on the cage and patels on another cage why the hell would you count the contents⌠
cliffystephens:
if it says arkrights on the cage and patels on another cage why the hell would you count the contentsâŚ
To avoid the situation where you get 2 or 3 drops and 20 miles up the road only to discover that another cage for Arkwrights was loaded out of sequence and is nestling against the headboard, hidden behind the 4 cages that you have just unloaded at TescoâŚ
But if the paperwork says they get 4 cages and thatâs what they get and sign for no matter whatâs at the front its going back to yard because you cannot leave things at stores without paperwork
mac12:
But if the paperwork says they get 4 cages and thatâs what they get and sign for no matter whatâs at the front its going back to yard because you cannot leave things at stores without paperwork
Thatâs quite a significant âIfâ of course. In the example I gave, the paperwork stated the number of units of each product, not the number of cages. Which was the point I was making. Maybe we should have literacy tests for participants here? 
To put it in simple terms Wiseman appear to deliver by unit not by cage count 
Roymondo:
cliffystephens:
if it says arkrights on the cage and patels on another cage why the hell would you count the contentsâŚTo avoid the situation where you get 2 or 3 drops and 20 miles up the road only to discover that another cage for Arkwrights was loaded out of sequence and is nestling against the headboard, hidden behind the 4 cages that you have just unloaded at TescoâŚ
One cage/four cages/twenty cages piece off â â â â but why would you count 400 ltres in a cage forâŚ
cliffystephens:
Roymondo:
cliffystephens:
if it says arkrights on the cage and patels on another cage why the hell would you count the contentsâŚTo avoid the situation where you get 2 or 3 drops and 20 miles up the road only to discover that another cage for Arkwrights was loaded out of sequence and is nestling against the headboard, hidden behind the 4 cages that you have just unloaded at TescoâŚ
One cage/four cages/twenty cages piece off â â â â but why would you count 400 ltres in a cage forâŚ
Because, as I said, the paperwork might not specify how many cages (Wiseman donât use conventional cages - they use trolleys with folding shelves inside). So the only way the driver is going to know whether he has made the full delivery is to count the packs. Now if he has next to no numeracy skills, the only way he is going to achieve this is by going through each trolley and counting off each bottle âOne, two, three, four, five, sixâŚâ which is, as observed earlier, going to take a long time. But as the product is on shelves, so many to each shelf (depending on the pack size) it is a piece of â â â â to calculate how many of each you have in all the trolleys added together (IF you have basic numeracy skillsâŚ
Why is it so hard for you to understand this?
never done wiseman cages/shelves/racks whatever its not that I donât understand and I aint taking the â â â â âŚbut it seems like the driver is a milkman literallyâŚbecause the loaders in dairy cant load milk correctlyâŚ