geebee45:
dieseldave:
geebee45:
By the way, good answer but no cigar, yetHi geebee45, Are we just looking at the page in the link above, or the other linked pages from that also please?
Page on the link Dave. I dread to think what we’d find on their other pages.
I have stopped smoking so I donate the cigar to charity. 
particularly since failing to do this could expose you to corporate manslaughter charges.
Surely you have to kill someone first 
geebee45:
By the way, good answer but no cigar, yet
OK, lets see -
Driver’s Hours Rules Designed to limit the number of hours a worker can drive and the minimum rest time required between spells behind the wheel, the Driver’s Hours Rules is split into three major categories:
minimum rest time required between spells behind the wheel - WORK?
1) Daily and fortnightly driving limits
Daily and WEEKLY and fortnightly driving limits?
2) Required rest breaks and the amount of rest required on a daily and weekly basis
3) Emergencies and exemptions
According to the directive, drivers are limited to nine hours driving a day followed by at least 11 hours rest. Additionally, drivers may only drive 4.5 hours continuously before having a 45 minute break. At the end of the week, a compulsory 45 hour break must be taken.
And as if that wasn’t difficult enough to manage, each of these limits can be changed in certain situations - for example, driving continuously for ten hours is permitted twice a week, the daily rest period can be cut to a minimum of nine hours three times a week and weekly rest can be reduced to 36 hours if it is taken where the driver is normally based.
driving FOR A TOTAL OF ten hours BETWEEN REST PERIODS is permitted?
weekly rest can be reduced to 24 hours
taken where the driver is normally based - ANYWHERE
All these rules, variations and exceptions make keeping accurate records of your drivers’ activity absolutely vital - particularly since failing to do this could expose you to corporate manslaughter charges.
Assumed this bit is aimed at bosses if a fatal incident was to occur due to driver tiredness etc through being allowed to work too many hours
Did I get close 
It does worry you when a brochure or website is so wrong. Let us assume a traffic office clerk sees that, he then tells a driver that he can do one thing, the driver tells him he cannot do it because it is illegal.
Who is the spotty clerk going to believe? A corporate website from a well known world renowned company or a fat truck driver 
But Veeder Root have always tried to be different, remember the rather stupid one make cards and the silly locking ring/key
Driver’s Hours Rules Designed to limit the number of hours a worker can drive and the minimum rest time required between spells behind the wheel, the Driver’s Hours Rules is split into three major categories:
Driver rules do not limit the amount of minimum rest 
, They are split into 3 main catergories (GB, EU & AETR) but not like this.
- Daily and fortnightly driving limits
as already suggested weekly limits apply too.
- Required rest breaks and the amount of rest required on a daily and weekly basis
- Emergencies and exemptions
Emergencies form a very small part of the rules.
According to the directive, drivers are limited to nine hours driving a day followed by at least 11 hours rest. Additionally, drivers may only drive 4.5 hours continuously before having a 45 minute break. At the end of the week, a compulsory 45 hour break must be taken.
So much wrong here, which Directive? when does the week end? whats a 45 hour break?
And as if that wasn’t difficult enough to manage, each of these limits can be changed in certain situations - for example, driving continuously for ten hours is permitted twice a week, the daily rest period can be cut to a minimum of nine hours three times a week and weekly rest can be reduced to 36 hours if it is taken where the driver is normally based.
Continuous ten hour drive, break out the coke , I thought weekly rest could be reduced to 24 hours anywhere.
All these rules, variations and exceptions make keeping accurate records of your drivers’ activity absolutely vital - particularly since failing to do this could expose you to corporate manslaughter charges.
These rules have no variations they do have exemptions and derogations and keeping records is a legal requirement.
For more information about Driver’s Hours Rules, visit the DFT website.
Thank goodness they’ve put this in.
just sent them an E-MAIL 
nick2008:
just sent them an E-MAIL
Aready done, with a link to this page
MADBAZ:
nick2008:
just sent them an E-MAILAready done, with a link to this page
looks like there have update the page now
WE HAVE THE POWER
nick2008:
just sent them an E-MAIL
MADBAZ:
Aready done, with a link to this page
delboytwo:
looks like there have update the page now
Someone else sent them an e-mail yesterday evening but I’ve no idea who that could be as I have SENIOR MOMENTS 
The page may have been updated but there are still some big errors.
In the meantime news on the competition…Rog and Madbaz are right…but for all the wrong reasons.
Keep trying folk
MADBAZ:
nick2008:
just sent them an E-MAILAready done, with a link to this page
It was a good attempt, but the link still only points to a DFT guide and not the legislation! Maybe they are working on it overnight
Come on Geebee, I give up 
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Designed to limit the number of hours a worker can drive and the minimum rest time required between spells behind the wheel, the Driver’s Hours Rules is split into three major categories:
There is no regulation that sets the minimum rest between “spells behind the wheel” as such, the drivers hours rules set the rest or break requirement for a total of 4.5 ■■■■■■■■■ hours driving regardless of how many “spells behind the wheel” or driving periods that involves.
tachograph:
Designed to limit the number of hours a worker can drive and the minimum rest time required between spells behind the wheel, the Driver’s Hours Rules is split into three major categories:
There is no regulation that sets the minimum rest between “spells behind the wheel” as such, the drivers hours rules set the rest or break requirement for a total of 4.5 ■■■■■■■■■ hours driving regardless of how many “spells behind the wheel” or driving periods that involves.
And a daily rest could be required on a day when no driving has taken place at all.
You would have though, after having this page pointing out to them they would have made sure with their new attempt to get it right but they appear to have been happy to settle for a half-arsed attempt which still contains a few mistakes.
Will someone be nice to them and send them a proper version - not me though - I’m likely to do my own version 
ROG:
Will someone be nice to them and send them a proper version - not me though - I’m likely to do my own version
Even you couldn’t make more of a balls up than their effort ROG, we’ve been educating you for a couple of years now and a few bits have even sunk in. Only a few mind. 
ROG:
Will someone be nice to them and send them a proper version - not me though - I’m likely to do my own version
How about
The drivers regs are massively complicated (as we found out to our embarrassment) and no desk jockey will be able to decipher them without really clever analysis software that our eggheads have made.
Good pitch or what?
ROG:
Will someone be nice to them and send them a proper version - not me though - I’m likely to do my own version
that would be like telling them to ■■■■ eggs, cos if there don’t no the Regs there in the wrong business 
If I drove for 10 hours my bladder would burst.
I like the wording
According to the directive, drivers are limited to a maximum of nine hours driving a day followed by at least 11 hours rest.
Is it me or could that be worded better, like "The directive states that drivers are limited to a maximum…etc etc etc. or may be me being picky
Whats the answer then Geebee45 
May be he looked at the other pages, saw what they had written spat his coffee out and fell off his chair gobsmacked