daveb0789:
The 60 mph limit will soon be changed to the EU harmonised limit of 90 kph. Yyou will be deemed as speeding if you exceed that and digitachos show an overspeed warning at over 90 kph.
That appears to be a speed reduction: That’ll go down well on the streets, eh! Not.
Suedehead:
Ok then, when you drive out of any British port, its not long before theres a sign displaying the national speed limits and they still show 60mph for a hgv on a motorway ?
Thats quite true but unless they are driving a UK registered truck Johnie and Pawel wont know what that is anyway as the speedometer doesnt show MPH & KM like ours.
daveb0789:
The 60 mph limit will soon be changed to the EU harmonised limit of 90 kph. Yyou will be deemed as speeding if you exceed that and digitachos show an overspeed warning at over 90 kph.
That PROPOSAL is also to include all 7.5 tonners and coaches whether they are fitted with a limiter or not
This, according to the DfT, is to ‘harmonise’ the problems caused by motorway restricted vehicles where the differing of speed limits is deemed to cause frustration. - I wish I could find the link to this as it was a while ago that I read it…
ROG:
daveb0789:
The 60 mph limit will soon be changed to the EU harmonised limit of 90 kph. Yyou will be deemed as speeding if you exceed that and digitachos show an overspeed warning at over 90 kph.That PROPOSAL is also to include all 7.5 tonners and coaches whether they are fitted with a limiter or not
This, according to the DfT, is to ‘harmonise’ the problems caused by motorway restricted vehicles where the differing of speed limits is deemed to cause frustration. - I wish I could find the link to this as it was a while ago that I read it…
Hey Rog, I’ve found it :
vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit … ations.pdf
The way I understand this is that the motorway speed limit for each vehicle type will be lowered. That is to say, from 60 mph to 56 mph for goods vehicles, and from 70 mph to 62 mph for buses and coaches.
daveb0789:
Hey Rog, I’ve found it :
That’s it - ta 
> Speed limiters
> The range of vehicles requiring a road speed limiter is widening and will include:
> New vehicles
> Goods vehicles with a design weight over 3.5 tonnes and buses with more than 8 passenger seats (regardless of weight) registered on or after 1 January 2005, will be required to be fitted with a road speed limiter. The limiter will restrict the maximum powered speed to 56mph (90km/h) for goods vehicles, and 62mph (100km/h) for buses. A speed limiter will not be required until 1 January 2008, however for vehicles used solely on UK journeys and are either:
> - a goods vehicle with a design weight not exceeding 7.5 tonnes, or;
> - a bus with a design weight not exceeding 5 tonnes
>
> Speed limiter,
> speed limits and motorway driving laws are changing… don’t get caught out!
> New Speed Limiter Legislation V2.qxd 12/7/04 1:04 PM Page 1
> Older vehicles
> Vehicles registered between 1 October 2001 and 31 December 2004 (inclusive), will also need a road speed limiter if they are:
> - a diesel engined goods vehicle with a design weight over 3.5 tonnes, but not exceeding 12 tonnes, or; - a diesel engined bus fitted with more than 8 passenger seats and has a design weight not exceeding 10 tonnes.
> Vehicles used on international journeys need to be fitted with a speed limiter by 1 January 2006, while vehicles used solely on UK journeys will need a limiter by 1 January 2007.
> Use of the offside lane on motorways
> The Department for Transport is consulting on the proposal to ban all vehicles, required to be fitted with a road speed limiter, from using the offside lane on 3 or more lane motorways.
> If the proposal is adopted, the change will begin on 1 January 2005.
> Motorway speed limits It is likely, once all the changes to vehicles requiring road speed limiters have taken place (after 1 January 2008), the national motorway speed limit for goods vehicles over 3.5 tonnes and buses will be lowered.
> Restricting all vehicles in these classes to the same speed limit will reduce any competitive advantage of older vehicles (which are not required to have speed limiters).
I wouldnt worry too much about the near future, we wont recognise it soon 
New technologies enable in-vehicle systems that support drivers to comply with the speed limits. These systems provide information about the speed limit in force; warn the driver when exceeding the limit; or make excess speed impossible or uncomfortable. Such systems are already available and likely to be introduced progressively.
New technologies also enable communication between road and vehicle, allowing for full dynamic speed limits, based on the actual traffic and weather conditions. These systems are still under development.
It is likely, once all the changes to vehicles requiring road speed
limiters have taken place (after 1 January 2008), the national
motorway speed limit for goods vehicles over 3.5 tonnes and
buses will be lowered.Restricting all vehicles in these classes to the same speed limit will
reduce any competitive advantage of older vehicles (which are not
required to have speed limiters).
Lower limiter speeds, more bunching = slower speed altogether for everyone. One way to increase traffic snarl ups.
DAFMAD:
Lower limiter speeds, more bunching = slower speed altogether for everyone. One way to increase traffic snarl ups.
I’ve heard that M42 speed restrictions around Solihul & the M25 variables alledgedly improve flow since everyone’s transitting through doing the same speed which negates any sense/purpose/opportunity to lane-change/carve-up, etc unless they are entering, leaving or lane-chopping pillocks…
It might help if the road limit was set to our limited speed since no-one would have need to troll past us (and since the train will be the new car when fossil fuel runs out, what joyous fun it will be to smile at ■■■■ staff-cars humming beside us at 85 kph…!)
i have’nt got a speed limiter fitted to my irish reg truck 
no chance of fallin asleep at 65mph+