Shrek:
(Must be my superior status as a transporter driver, right up there at the top of the trucking food chain).
OOOhhh thats where iām going wrong,
I thought it was us artic tipper drivers that were at the top!! 
Happy Keith:
Due to having given away our national rights to Europe and now being simply an EU āMember Stateā, I understand that we are bound to being limited to 85kph - not 56mph having relinquished our imperial status to Europe years ago.(Meanwhile, achtung & zut alors, etc ā¦letās not kid ourselves weāre British. The Scotās, Welsh and N. Irish are vaguely more fortunate to have their national identity supported through their devolution from toothless London - but if the mighty but dull Brussels says we will calibrate our lorries to kph ā¦then who are we to argue?).
And this would explain why DAF in Belgium will set limiters to 89.9kph? The Dutchmen are mostly limited to about 90kph too. Why are the Brits the only ones who gold-plate all these daft rules?
Harry Monk:
scotty1972:
Mine is limited to 55.9 but i seem to pass everything except the irish.Thatās because neither Northern Ireland or the Republc ratified eu Speed Limiter treaty until 2006, thirteen years after the rest of the eu adopted it.
Irish trucks registered earlier than 2006 are not fitted with speed limiters, and are not required to be.
Iāve already noticed that as older Irish trucks are replaced, the āWacky Racesā out of Pembroke Dock seem to have slowed down.
Donāt know about RoI but doesent seem true for NI trucks and even if it was still would have to be limited to drive across here.
Any NI truck ive driven (never driven one newer than 2005) has always had a speed limiter though sometimes maybe not limited to 56mph.
From what i gather its more the case that the enforcement over there wasnāt that great in the past. These days though its different, compared to the UK a lot less enforcement over there, but if you do get stoped they are supposedly now tougher than VOSA and will hammer you so ive been told i never drive across in Ireland.
If you get pulled and your limiter is way over they will do you for it, heard about a guy a few weeks ago getting done with a NI truck because the calibration was way out, was doing 60+mph while the tachograph was showing he was doing 55mph.
The slowing down of Irish trucks is more to do wih fuel costs though, one company that used to really fly along, has started going a lot slower, well under 60mph and its down to fuel costs, my boss was speaking to their boss and he was saying they were doing runs to places like Manchester hammering it to manchester then waiting three hours for their unloading time, then coming back same hammering it and getting to the boat sitting about for three or four hours getting 5mpg. Limiting them slower still getting to their destination in time and getting back to the boat but saving a lot of money on fuel and a lot less hassle from the police.
A lot of English drivers think NI trucks etcā¦ donāt have to follow the rules. I was in Birmingham the other day, was speaking to a English driver he was asking how long iād been in the depot for. I said since 10am was now 9pm at night, he said wow you been waiting that long to get loaded, i said nah came down at 10am got tipped, then took nine hours off now just finished getting loaded and heading up the road. He said you not just get loaded and go at 10am since you donāt need to use tachographs. Explained to him i did need to use tachographs !
He then said what speed does your truck go, i said limited to 56mph but tyres were pretty worn down when limited so does about 58-59mph, he said no way ive seen you go past me doing about 70mph before, I said no chance but he didnt believe me.
He then was saying he was thinking about getting his own truck in the future and if he did would get an Irish truck since they arent limited etcā¦ and you get away with murder. I was laughing saying yeah right. I said you go out get an Irish registared truck and every single time you pass a VOSA check point you will get pulled in and get hammered for the slightest thing. You want a trouble free life get a English registared plain truck and you will get much less hassle.
I drive a lot of different trucks occasionally drive an NI truck, i have never been pulled in a truck registared on the mainland, but been pulled loads of times driving anything with NI plates on it. Its a like a red flag to a bull for the police and VOSA.
Governor!:
a tesco truck over-taking you? you been on the magic mushrooms?
Every night always on the M4 around 10pm / 10.45, same Tesco truck flys past me, heading London bound between jct 12 - jct 8, i know its not an optical illusion
I have used the sat nav & had a mate drive alongside in a car when iām flat out and they all say i was doing 56mph, I have seen TNT, Eddies, Irlams, DHL and quite a few others fly past me at night, suppose iāll just poodle along and not worry about it
The reason is your not doing 56mph.
I really doubt the big companies you have mentioned above go out get some dodgy guy in to wind their speed limiters up. Big companies like DHL need prob a forrest of paper work to change a light bulb and done by a mechanic, so really think its unrealistic they are getting their trucks wound up to 60mph or something.
Also prob unrealistic with all their trackers, tachograph analisis and gotta go and explain why you stoped to do a dump, that the drivers are pulling out fuses.
Infact some of these companies they will have a hissy fit if you have overspeeds on your tachograph espec over 60mph.
well my daf85 used to stick at 89kmh but if u go down hill hit the limiter the nwith would do 90 all day long but now the wholes fleet in manchestr has been turned down to 50mph to and try save full.1 lad said he could not make his rreturn load in edinburgh so they tols him to leave it and return empty to garstang on the saturday morning to pick a load up there to bring back to the yard.
swains transport have all been turn down now to 50mph so u will be all passing us now.so who else has had their motors turned to save fuel.and money in thsi tough times
Does it save money turning them down to 50mph i am skeptical it will do espec if you are carrying heavy weights and doing quite a bit of hill work.
Limiting it to 50mph your limiting it lower on the powerband in the top gear so slight hills its having to drop down gears and rev up to maintain speed. At 57mph limited less on the power so at times staying in top gear getting up the hill.
Well this is what i have found in some cases with same model trucks limited to different speeds carrying similar loads.
I know it gets to a point where the higher its limited more fuel it will use, but dont think its a constant thing, i.e. doing 40mph is less efficent than doing 50mph.
Kenny1975 is right. Speed limiters should not be set at less than what the truck is deigned for.
Most trucks do around 1400rpm at 56mph.
If we could do 70mph in the uk then they would still be designed to do 1400rpm at 70mph.
Some of these graduates who come up with ideas about fuel economy,Safety, etc can be a bit thick for intelligent people.
Would an accountant tell a soldier ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā someone? āNOā
Why do they tell a driver how to drive?
Speed limiters. āNot for me iām trying to give them upā
allikat:
And this would explain why DAF in Belgium will set limiters to 89.9kph? The Dutchmen are mostly limited to about 90kph too. Why are the Brits the only ones who gold-plate all these daft rules?
Maybe the Belgique & Cloggie techies factor their limiters upwards to massage their wagons within the 10% error that speed-traps alledgedly allow for to help their hauliers assist their nationās GDP?
Meanwhile, Iāve concluded that it has almost universally become a motoristās norm to apparently factor 10% - either consciously or otherwise - on top of road limit, ie, drive at indicated 33, 44, 55, 66, 77 ā¦unless my VW seriously under-reads at indicated 70 mph. (Wagons have too many variables to consider, but like a good puller like the next guy).
Surely an LGV doing a calibrated & indicating 55mph on a national dual carriageway is on the 10% margin too ā¦though who would drive so irresponsibly?
Perhaps we British gold-plate ourselves to the absolute (and disabling?) āruleā cos weāre the political Muppets of the EU?
Limiters should never have been set at 56mph, should have been 5mph above the maximum speed limit which would be 65mph.
Was always going to create a situation where majority of drivers are going flat out on the limiter on the motorway.
Ok some would still do the same on the motorway with a 65mph limiter, but a lot wouldnt espec people working for larger companies where they would get pulled up for it and others trying to drag their hours out.
I dont think even EU wide directives are any good either, think transport should be a localised issue for different member states, it was meant to be for fair use and competition hows it fair when some countries have much cheaper diesel, some countries dont have minimum wage, some countries donāt bother enforcing legislation. Its a complete joke.
Our roads were designed for trucks to do 60mph on the motorway not 56mph so why should some fat pen pushers on the gravey train limit our trucks.
Harry Monk:
scotty1972:
Mine is limited to 55.9 but i seem to pass everything except the irish.Thatās because neither Northern Ireland or the Republc ratified eu Speed Limiter treaty until 2006, thirteen years after the rest of the eu adopted it.
Irish trucks registered earlier than 2006 are not fitted with speed limiters, and are not required to be.
Iāve already noticed that as older Irish trucks are replaced, the āWacky Racesā out of Pembroke Dock seem to have slowed down.
Kenny1975:
Our roads were designed for trucks to do 60mph on the motorway not 56mph so why should some fat pen pushers on the gravey train limit our trucks.
Voila ā¦because we, the (formerly āBritishā) voter are ambivalent to the horrors that EU āmembershipā (indoctrination?) infers.
We prefer instead to vote either Red, Blue or Yellow - often on spun or personality issues.
Meanwhile, those same mainstream politico pen-pushers want EU membership for our āMember Stateā (formerly our āNationā) in evident order to do a bit of elderly duty-free partying, put-in an expense-rich day or two of unaccountable chin-rubbing & thus achieve a plump Euro-Grandee pension after theyāre washed-up in parliament: Danke schon, Kennyā¦
Hence, we are subject to Euro 85 kph limits, Euro km tachoās, having to fathom dodgy Euro km bridge heights in & fuelling-up our tanks in Euro ltrs, etcā¦
Can someone tell me where I can find details of this 85 kph limit? AFAIK the limit is 80 kph in most European countries unless you have a ā90ā sticker which then permits you to do 90 kph (where allowed) ā¦Speed limiters used to be set at a maximum of 85 kph, now the wording has been changed so that they are set in such a way that the powered speed cannot exceed 90 kph.
fazer:
why are coaches faster than trucks? surely with people on board, its more of a risk to be going faster?
People are using coaches for long distance travel more than ever, Iāve seen a dramatic increase in passenger numbers. For coach travel to become more attractive to car drivers they must at least be faster than lorries. Telling car drivers that coaches are the same speed as lorries isnāt going to get them to make the switch! Most of the coaches I drive do 100 kph - they rarely do any less. One is able to reach that speed in 30 seconds with a full load!
I have some fuse lying in my dashboard, but I have no time to check when itās belongs, as everyone else drive so slow, that I must still slalom between them
Naughty naughty 
Silly question i know but why are most trucks ālimitedā, (and i mean most ,not all) to 85kph when the legal limit on a motorway is 60mph ? 
Suedehead:
Silly question i know but why are most trucks ālimitedā, (and i mean most ,not all) to 85kph when the legal limit on a motorway is 60mph ? :?:
Easy ā¦cos 60 mph isnāt a European/metric measurement. Itāll all become clear when Brussels tells Westminster to cease using mph.
Ok then, when you drive out of any British port, its not long before theres a sign displaying the national speed limits and they still show 60mph for a hgv on a motorway ?
Suedehead:
Ok then, when you drive out of any British port, its not long before theres a sign displaying the national speed limits and they still show 60mph for a hgv on a motorway ?
Am unsure where or what the question is, but surely a 60 mph limit allows for overun on a downhill incline, but suggest that it doesnāt detract from our member state servility (ie, we always ā ā ā ā -up) to Mother Brussels because how long before the 60 mph limit becomes 100 kph?
The 60 mph limit will soon be changed to the EU harmonised limit of 90 kph. Yyou will be deemed as speeding if you exceed that and digitachos show an overspeed warning at over 90 kph.