pete 359:
this one looks fully freighted with alloy frag.
Tinplate scrap- looking at the size of it, I would guess either from Milton Keynes or Braunstone in Leicester.
pete 359:
This one looks like Batchelors (AMG) in Llanelli. What looks like a triaxle trailer on the right is actually the machine that used to tip the whole trailer up instead of having to fit each trailer with rams.
pete 359:
This one looks like Duckoâs wagon down at Dragon Shipping on swansea docks. This would probably have been 1987 when we used to carry coal in open top containers from Abernant, Banwen, Onllwyn, Phurnacite in Aberaman, Nantgarw and the other one near Kidwelly (but I canât remember the name of it now). That used to amount to about 150 loads a week plus all the other general cargo. I think we used to have a core team of about 8 drivers permanently on this job, but anything up to 16 or 18 on ship days.
pete 359:
Brian Miller here taking a load of tinplate down to Poole probably from Trostre, but possibly Velindre depending on when the picture was taken, although we did have a spell of collecting Poole plate from Ebbw Vale, but the trostre was usually kept for Brian as he did a trip every day to Poole and back driving down the A350 from Bath down to Warminster, Shaftesbury and Blandfrd down to Poole. The road was ok until south of Warminster, but as you started to pull up the hill into Shaftesbury, your problems jus got worse until the other side of Blandford. Much of it has been straightened out now and pretty but horrible to negotiate villages like East knoyle just had to be driven through. You never wanted to meet anybody coming in the opposite direction through some of these- but often did. Mileage wise it wasnât a long trip, but if you did that down and back in a day(which we always did), you knew youâd done a dayâs work by the time you got back. It wasnât helped by the fact that the Metal Box factory there was really tight which is why we needed a specially shortened trailer (28-30 foot)as anything longer than that simply couldnât be driven around the chicane in the factory never mind reversed out when the trailer had been loaded, as the scrap bay was a dead end.
Fair play to Brian- he really knew that job and did it well.
jandyt:
pete 359:
This one looks like Duckoâs wagon down at Dragon Shipping on swansea docks. This would probably have been 1987 when we used to carry coal in open top containers from Abernant, Banwen, Onllwyn, Phurnacite in Aberaman, Nantgarw and the other one near Kidwelly (but I canât remember the name of it now). That used to amount to about 150 loads a week plus all the other general cargo. I think we used to have a core team of about 8 drivers permanently on this job, but anything up to 16 or 18 on ship days.
hi jandyt,
was the one near kidwelly called trimsaran?or as its now known,ffos las, a bloody impressive horse racing course built by walters group. 
regards andrew
pete 359:
Robert Haram driving this one. It looks like a load of China Clay from Devon or Cornwall on the way to Dragon Shipping in Swansea docks.
pete 359:
Steve Kenealyâs E14 with the rest cab that was in malopium colours for years to get around a ban at British gypsum in East Leake. I think Blueline did a similar thing with D.David as drivers were banned from going through the village, and if you were caught, the haulier faced being banned. Many of us were collecting plasterboard ex-works, but the transport manager on site wanted the local firms to do it and was looking to ban al the south Wales boys.
Where thereâs a will thereâs a way!
pete 359:
This was one of the wagons based in Poole. Paul âCloggoâ White used to drive this until he came off the lorries to drive a fork lift in the warehouse there. There was a good team of drivers down there including Arthur Mallory, Cookie, Rex Akred, Mark âJessieâ Nicholls and others. Most of the boys tramped all week moving between the various Illtyd Thomas depots in Leicester, Sutton in Ashfield, Hull, St. Helens, Swansea and Palmers Green.
pete 359:
Dai Smithâs 220-30 which he used to go to East Leake regularly after tipping in Leicester or Sutton in ashfield usuallyâŚ
pete 359:
In the foreground is an ex-Metal Box Seddon Atkinson 301 which was bought when Illtydâs took over the contract at Metal Box Sutton in Ashfield. As you can see these were fitted with an additional axle, ubt with an L10 250 â â â â â â â were massively gutless running at 38 Tonnes.
pete 359:
dai also tells me that this cab is still there,though itâs covered by overgrown bushes and trees and canât be seen,sad to think that a once thriving concern that operated vehicles all over the uk ended this way.thanks again for the disc dai,thatâs what this thread needs is more people like you who contribute photographs like these.more coming tomorrow.
regards andrew
Pete, I can confirm that vehicle (H953 PCY)is still there and even more overgrown now than it was in the photograph. This was also one of the Ivecos which were based in Poole from 1988 onwards.
Youâre right about it being sad that a thriving business like this (like many others) finishing.
Itâs been a particularly sad week, as David Thomas who was one of the directors passed away a week ago today on 3rd October after a long period of ill health.
pete 359:
jandyt:
pete 359:
This one looks like Duckoâs wagon down at Dragon Shipping on swansea docks. This would probably have been 1987 when we used to carry coal in open top containers from Abernant, Banwen, Onllwyn, Phurnacite in Aberaman, Nantgarw and the other one near Kidwelly (but I canât remember the name of it now). That used to amount to about 150 loads a week plus all the other general cargo. I think we used to have a core team of about 8 drivers permanently on this job, but anything up to 16 or 18 on ship days.
hi jandyt,
was the one near kidwelly called trimsaran?or as its now known,ffos las, a bloody impressive horse racing course built by walters group.
regards andrew
Hi Pete
The site was near Trimsaran and it IS the racecourse now, but Iâve just remembered that it was called Coedbach at the time- I knew Iâd get it in the end! 
The washery by Trimsaran was Coed Bach.Quite modern but very slow load.Used to load with Walters of Pontlliw,just keep popping in throughout the week until there was a loading gap.
Hi jandyt very interesting stuff on Illytd Thomas ! I had heard that Malopium was an adoptation of Illtydâ s childrens initials is this correct ? more photos please . i can remember Illtyd tipping at Metal box at Worcester on occasions regards kk
Hi jandyt,
Did you work with my old mate Dave Kinsey on Illtydd Thomas 
Cheers Dave.
altitude:
pete 359:
A young Terry Wogan
Brilliant- I think its a young Clive Davies- I think Clive can talk more than Wogan anyway!
kingswinford kit:
Hi jandyt very interesting stuff on Illytd Thomas ! I had heard that Malopium was an adoptation of Illtydâ s childrens initials is this correct ? more photos please . i can remember Illtyd tipping at Metal box at Worcester on occasions regards kk
Great theory, but not true sorry- Illtydâs sons were David John and Gwyn. The reality is that they bought the company name and registration off the shelf years before the account was activated and never bothered to change it- it wasnât even originally registered at companies House as a haulier- it could just as easily have been a shoe shop.
I think I prefer your theory though!
Dave the Renegade:
Hi jandyt,
Did you work with my old mate Dave Kinsey on Illtydd Thomas
Cheers Dave.
Hi Dave
I was only a kid when Dai Kinsey worked there, but I do remember him as a nice guy and a real character and good laugh- shocking bleached hair and mullett though; he should have addressed that !
welshphil:
The washery by Trimsaran was Coed Bach.Quite modern but very slow load.Used to load with Walters of Pontlliw,just keep popping in throughout the week until there was a loading gap.
From memory, the machine driver was a contractor who was paid on piece work, so he wouldnât move from the rail wagons to the lorries until 3 or 4 were waiting. Pretty quick once he got going though.
Thanks jandyt for that never mind it was a good thought! regards kk