South Wales Hauliers sixties and seventies onwards (Part 1)

brilliant postings as usual steelboy f10 mate,thanks.my mate les boon 's man came in for some minor repair work yesterday.

pete 359:
an old welsh registered borderer,lying in the corner of a yard.

This is abuse at its worst and whoever is responsible should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves!! Bewick.

tony morgan heavy haulage had leyland marathon chassis number 1,before that it was a leyland demo.seen here in it’s days with leyland/aec and their demo driver ■■■■ rivers at the wheel.

tony morgan also had the first 142 scania’s that i ever saw.

years later,humphries of east london bought it,painted it black and it grew another axle.

pontrilas timber have ran many different makes over the years from f88’s to tgs man’s.here are a couple of 4000 series fodens.

Hi Andrew,
Have you got a pic of a Foden with a crane slung over the top of the cab,an old workmate of mine John Powell from Knighton drove that,he loaded two other artics plus his own out of Dovey Forest near Machynlleth back to Pontrilas most days in the 80’s.
Cheers Dave.

pete 359:
pontrilas timber have ran many different makes over the years from f88’s to tgs man’s.here are a couple of 4000 series fodens.

Hi Andrew, Malc Hutchinson also converted some of these trucks as he did for Joints, when 38 ton came out in 1982/3, I remember they had a Foden fitted with a tag axle.GB

steelboyf10:

pete 359:
pontrilas timber have ran many different makes over the years from f88’s to tgs man’s.here are a couple of 4000 series fodens.

Hi Andrew, Malc Hutchinson also converted some of these trucks as he did for Joints, when 38 ton came out in 1982/3, I remember they had a Foden fitted with a tag axle.GB

hi m8,
thanks for your reply.if you were as sad as me then you would say that one of joints fodens was registered e319 swn,the pontrilas one above is e317 ewn.ups tell me that my parts landed today and will be with me tomorrow,so road test thursday? :wink:
regards andrew

adrian lean from pyle runs two fh’s,this one is used to deliver woodchips.

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pete 359:
an early wynns scammell contractor mk.1these old girls would pull a house down. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i remember taking this photo south of worcester on the A38 late 60’s

hiya,
Great old motors just the job for dragging extinct mainline loco’s from Lancs down to Barry loco graveyard would have pulled two and still had some to spare, but you did need the power it was a canny old hill into there.
thanks harry long retired.

Those old motors were rated at 240 tons train weight and I know they have pulled over 300 tons on there own but they were a bit ■■■■■■■■■■ around town :laughing:
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie, actually this model was rated for 110 - 150 tons and known as “lightweight contractors”!!! the 240 ton contractors and the 250 ton mk2’s had the larger coachbuilt cabs and larger wheels.they were rated very conservatively by Scammell and could quite easily handle twice that weight. WYNNS used them for twenty years because nothing else came close for capability and reliability. thats quite a recomendation in anyones book! cheers Mark

It looks as though that wagon as got the big contractor wheels and hubs as the 125 ton juniors ran on 1100 tyres and smaller hubs but Scammell did turn out some specials for their main customers they did make several single cab 240 tonners when they came out as each contractor were more or less tailor made as when we first got them they were able to double the pulling capacity of what we had up to then
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie
unless i’m mistaken the 125 ton juniors ,that you refer to, were constructors rather than contractors as these were the only "heavy tractors " to use 11.00 tyres. you’re right about the big hubs on this tractor but the 240 tonners had larger & wider wheels making them considerably wider than the “smaller” 110-150 tonners. sorry to sound like an anorak but i’ve always had a soft spot for these old girls.they have something that a lot of lorries today just don’t~sheer presence :sunglasses: cheers Mark
ps who were you working for when you had the scammells?

Hi Mark I was at Pickfords Sheffield and we had one out of the first batch of contractors PGO712E and one out of the first batch of junior contractors SJD802F as I recall they were only in 6x4 where as the constructor you could have 6x4 and 6x6 which we had at the time I have a picture out of the Scammell book of them I don’t think you can make it out but it does say contractor on the side of the bonnet of the junior and it is a sister motor of the one at our depot I think it could have based at Liverpool driven by ■■■■ there is also a picture of the one which started me off lol which I will post the picture of PGO712E is moving a load from Folkstone docks to Dungerness power station as there were several and I was on one of the movements as they had been shipped in from Larne and we loaded them off the ferry and took them through during the night.
cheers Johnnie

hi Johnnie
my sincere apologies,i forgot all about that “little” junior contractor model. :blush: they didnt seem to make many of those. i guessed you might have worked for pickfords-the few pics i’ve seen of these baby contractors have all been in pickfords livery. that last photo looks like a wynns scammell…or perhaps its time for new glasses! do you have got any photos from your time at pickfords? always been a lowloader fan,drove them myself for five years.though nothing as impressive as the big scammells.
cheers Mark

Hi Mark no need for apologies as I make more mistakes than most “wrong is what I do best” the last photo of the wynns Scammell is ( I think ) the same wagon as which started it off lol I have a few pics but I have lost my pics tempory I hope and just have a few in photobucket but I will post them as soon as I sort it out . Wynns did use contractors in artic form which pickfords never did and the junior only had a 250 ■■■■■■■ in it for 125 tons and more but they did the job without to many problems. I will have a lookto see if there is a Pickfords thread and if not I will start one when I am sorted I have not got to many pictures but when I start it you never know what will turn up.
cheers Johnnie

thanks Johnnie,looking forward to it. as you say,once you start,who knows what gems may turn up.
regards Mark

aled morgan delivered to us today,he runs a smart xf daf and has pulled for tdwilliams for many years.

bryan alexander from pyle runs some crane mounted rigids.

pete 359:
this old merc. is owned and has been since new by winston morris,one of the few long standing owner drivers still working out of south cornelly quarry.i took this particular photo 3 years ago,don’t know if he is still running her?

hi Andrew
Winston retired last year,unfortunately,through ill health i believe. :frowning: shame as he was a real gent.regards Mark

noisy jake:

pete 359:
this old merc. is owned and has been since new by winston morris,one of the few long standing owner drivers still working out of south cornelly quarry.i took this particular photo 3 years ago,don’t know if he is still running her?

hi Andrew
Winston retired last year,unfortunately,through ill health i believe. :frowning: shame as he was a real gent.regards Mark

hi mark,
i was sorry to read that about winston morris,i thought i hadn’t seen him around south cornelly for a while.i hope he is feeling better.here is a firm that member gah1950 may remember? evans transport from tredegar had this fairly early model f88 new,i think that most of their work was steel from ebbw vale and tafarnaubach
regards andrew

pete 359:
tony morgan heavy haulage had leyland marathon chassis number 1,before that it was a leyland demo.seen here in it’s days with leyland/aec and their demo driver ■■■■ rivers at the wheel.

Great piccie of a special truck. I just recently found a photo of it in Tony Morgan livery in a book about Trucks. There has been quite a few ‘special’ interest Trucks in South Wales over the years, great to see many captured on this site.

:confused: :frowning: Someone I was having a pint with last night is having lots of sleepless nights. The company he works for and occassionally drives, has one 7.5 tonner. The head office is up country. He happened to notice the other day that the ‘o’ licence has expired back on 1/1/2010. I checked the website and found that a continuation has not been sought. The company has run a few wagons for some 30 years. The head office has held there hands up and said they have forgotten to renew it. Where does everyone stand on this? will my mate get prosecuted along with all the other people who have driven that truck unaware of the problem?

malcolm kirk:
:? :frowning: Someone I was having a pint with last night is having lots of sleepless nights. The company he works for and occassionally drives, has one 7.5 tonner. The head office is up country. He happened to notice the other day that the ‘o’ licence has expired back on 1/1/2010. I checked the website and found that a continuation has not been sought. The company has run a few wagons for some 30 years. The head office has held there hands up and said they have forgotten to renew it. Where does everyone stand on this? will my mate get prosecuted along with all the other people who have driven that truck unaware of the problem?

hi
did you mean that vosa had noticed/intend to prosecute? or the driver had noticed and nobody else did? i am not an expert on transport law,but surely an occasional driver couldn’t be prosecuted for that? :open_mouth: ,mind you i hear vosa are getting very keen these days.
regards andrew

pete 359:

malcolm kirk:
:? :frowning: Someone I was having a pint with last night is having lots of sleepless nights. The company he works for and occassionally drives, has one 7.5 tonner. The head office is up country. He happened to notice the other day that the ‘o’ licence has expired back on 1/1/2010. I checked the website and found that a continuation has not been sought. The company has run a few wagons for some 30 years. The head office has held there hands up and said they have forgotten to renew it. Where does everyone stand on this? will my mate get prosecuted along with all the other people who have driven that truck unaware of the problem?

hi
did you mean that vosa had noticed/intend to prosecute? or the driver had noticed and nobody else did? i am not an expert on transport law,but surely an occasional driver couldn’t be prosecuted for that? :open_mouth: ,mind you i hear vosa are getting very keen these days.
regards andrew

He just happened to glance at the disc on the screen and noticed then. The wagon has still had all its six weeklies and so on, and the digital tacho has been downloaded to the FTA, so there is no getting away from the fact that its done about 2000 miles since the new year. As its a five year renewal on the licence, nobody made a habit of checking it regularly.

hi andrew, its the operator not the driver, i got stopped in aberdeen with ex meachers of southampton. although truck
tax/moted they give u a ticket to give to company,th company sorts it.daibootsy.